EPTIn any case, I'm beginning to think Zona is a spy, in cahoots with an elaborate Rad/Palm scheme. it's kind of a long shot but it makes sense given what's happened so far.
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Blazinghand
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In any case, I'm beginning to think Zona is a spy, in cahoots with an elaborate Rad/Palm scheme. it's kind of a long shot but it makes sense given what's happened so far. | ||
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Which is saying "on day 1, palmar or blazinghand (or both) were spies (rad town), and on day 2, palmar VE (or both) were spies (greymist, toad town)" it's also saying "zona doesn't look scummy" and i have serious reservations about zona. I think i'm going to nayvote this team after all. | ||
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Here are some general thoughts: 1) I do not trust Radfield. Radfield's actions d1 still are suspicious to me. I'm fairly sure he picked me for his team even though I looked scummy due to the "don't talk about spy meta" thing specifically BECAUSE he wanted me to be a fall guy. Zona goes into detail about this in some posts. 2) I do not trust Palmar. He's been relatively quiet, which doesn't say much, but he was on both teams that lost, and I wouldn't put it past Radfield to pick Palmar d1. 3) I do not trust Jackal58 for previously mentioned reasons including Hammering. The fact that he hammered the N2 team is meaningless though 4) VE actually seems okay to me. He was aggressive towards me but didn't tunnel and didn't make too many factual errors. 5) Truthbringer is still suspicious for me. 6) Greymist seems kosher. I'm somewhat worried about his post-reading skills and math skills but he seems more town than not. 7) I'm distrustful of Zona for a) the scum meta post on d1 and b) the completely unreasonable conclusion that both Rad and I are mafia (????) and then being like "well i'm voting against this team because blazinghand is voting for it" when RAd and I almost always vote at odds. 8) Toadesstern has been wrong for the right reasons this game. He's been asking questions, and rather reasonably included Radfield on his team. The thing I don't trust about him was the inclusion of Zona. That being said, I'm not willing to trust Truthbringer over him, and Palmar and Radfield are both iffy, and jackal is suspicious, and if I trusted zona i wouldn't be suspicious of Toad in the first place. therefore, my team is Blazinghand, Toadesstern, VisceraEyes, and GreyMist. Gentlemen, start your nayvotes! Anyone who thinks i'm mafia, please nayvote immediately so we can move on. Anyone who's iffy or who thinks i'm town, ask questions and interact with me! We will have many fun times together, I promise. | ||
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Radfield, I don't believe your "town" read on me on day1 was legitimate. I think everyone thought i was mafia day 1 after I made this post: On December 26 2011 17:03 Blazinghand wrote: Team: Radfield (yourself, who is confirmed town to you), plus Zona (for example), plus someone who gives off a solid town read like, say, Blazinghand. If the mission fails, you can reasonably say "well I think this was Zona" (though others will not be able to do so). The beauty of this though is, assuming you're right about the "1 mafia among Zona/Palm/Rad", If your mission succeeds, you've pinned down a mafia member! (WIFOM alert: Mafia, knowing this, might intentionally not sabotage, etc). A post like this which shared spy information is very scummy, and several people pointed this out, which is why people were suspicious of both Zona and myself who made posts like this on day 1. It's why Zona didn't even bother making a team because people were probably gonna mass nayvote it anyways. In any case, I didn't like that you chose me day 1. Looking back on it, I think you were setting me up to be a "fall guy". It could be you just didn't think that was that big of a slip-up. That being said, a couple of other things (the unnecessary discussion of the 1/3 1/3 1/3 possibility, the delayed justification, whether you meant it or not) also compound that suspicion. In any case, I think my team is pretty solid. I think that most people will look at this team and think that the weakest link is Blazinghand. I, knowing myself to be town, suffer from no such doubts. This is a good team. | ||
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On December 31 2011 08:07 TruthBringer wrote: Toad is the sketchiest person on the team, in my opinion, but really he is just a null for me and I prefer him over Blazinghand or Jackal. On January 01 2012 12:28 TruthBringer wrote: I think it is more likely that 1 of Radfield and Blazinghand was a spy, and 1 of Greymist, Toadesstern, VisceraEyes is a spy. In that case, I would say Blazinghand is a spy and Toadesstern is a spy. Why do you think toad is a spy? I'd rather not bring a spy along on a mission. I'd like to hear your case. | ||
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On January 03 2012 07:56 Blazinghand wrote: Radfield, I don't believe your "town" read on me on day1 was legitimate. I think everyone thought i was mafia day 1 after I made this post: A post like this which shared spy information is very scummy, and several people pointed this out, which is why people were suspicious of both Zona and myself who made posts like this on day 1. It's why Zona didn't even bother making a team because people were probably gonna mass nayvote it anyways. In any case, I didn't like that you chose me day 1. Looking back on it, I think you were setting me up to be a "fall guy". It could be you just didn't think that was that big of a slip-up. That being said, a couple of other things (the unnecessary discussion of the 1/3 1/3 1/3 possibility, the delayed justification, whether you meant it or not) also compound that suspicion. Like, do Radfield's suspicious actions d1 strike you as normal and cautious, as Rad would normally play? Or do they strike you as Rad setting up a fall guy (myself)? Or do they strike you as "you are palmar, radfield's scumbuddy?" That being said, you still have some town cred-- having someone besides myself calling Zona out is great but now I wonder if there's some serious bus craziness going on or if one of you is actually not scum | ||
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On January 04 2012 00:07 Toadesstern wrote: Your first paragraph is essentially the reason BH already called me out ( I think it was BH, not sure right now). You're basicly saying that nayvoting something d1 is a bad thing. I don't see how that's a bad thing at all. You were suspicious because of your instant-yay vote before a team was suggested and BH was suspicious for contradicting himself. At least I thought so, don't know about the rest. Therefor I nay-voted the team because again, that's all I had at this point in time. I really don't like the style you're posting because it sounds a lot like "well since we don't see flips we will never know about people for sure, therefor we don't need to try and analayze people by what they're posting and should only go by math". I already told BH that that's not going to work. I don't know what you're talking about, but off hand I'd say "you can't rely on reads, only math" is not something I'd say, given that my chief argument for myself being town is "I voted nay on the d1 team due to a read" | ||
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On January 04 2012 01:37 Jackal58 wrote: I'm picking people I see as town. As much as I can see in this setup. I'd say one of either Palmar or Rad are spies. I don't really expect any team I propose to be accepted anyways. If you think one of either Palmar or Rad are spies, do you think I too am a spy and it was a 2-spy n1? Also, don't say "I don't really expect any team I propose to be accepted anyways" because even though *I* didn't expect my team to be accepted I did my best to make good reads and defend it, as should you. Proposing and voting on teams is good for us. | ||
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On January 04 2012 02:15 Radfield wrote: Does that mean you think Blazinghand is town Jackal? Jackal is totes scummy but I'd just like to point out that thinking i'm town doesn't make you scum ._. | ||
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On December 27 2011 10:31 Radfield wrote: Here is my reasoning. Palmar's only post, while brief, is an important piece of advice and not one I had even considered. Blazinghand seems townish and willing to reason out and his posting is sound. Radfield, I don't believe your "town" read on me on day1 was legitimate. I think everyone thought i was mafia day 1 after I made this post: On December 26 2011 17:03 Blazinghand wrote: Team: Radfield (yourself, who is confirmed town to you), plus Zona (for example), plus someone who gives off a solid town read like, say, Blazinghand. If the mission fails, you can reasonably say "well I think this was Zona" (though others will not be able to do so). The beauty of this though is, assuming you're right about the "1 mafia among Zona/Palm/Rad", If your mission succeeds, you've pinned down a mafia member! (WIFOM alert: Mafia, knowing this, might intentionally not sabotage, etc). A post like this which shared spy information is very scummy, and several people pointed this out, which is why people were suspicious of both Zona and myself who made posts like this on day 1. It's why Zona didn't even bother making a team because people were probably gonna mass nayvote it anyways. In any case, I didn't like that you chose me day 1. Looking back on it, I think you were setting me up to be a "fall guy". | ||
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On January 04 2012 05:11 Jackal58 wrote: I think BH is scum. I think there is a very high order of probability that either you or Palmar are as well. So you think there were 2 scum N1, one of which was me? Would you say you agree with Zona's analysis of "Blazinghand and Radfield are in cahoots"? | ||
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Also things are super confusing now that Jackal and I have the same portrait. In any case, I don't trust Palmar any more. I kinda trust Radfield a little more but I still don't know what his deal was with the D1 team. | ||
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I'd like to say that a team that includes me is a team with a higher success rate... include me in teams please. | ||
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