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Blazinghand
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On December 29 2011 21:00 Zona wrote: I agree that it's most likely that there was only 1 spy on the mission last night. However, all of you should not take my ( It's for this reason that if Truth's team is rejected, I will forgo choosing a team and all of you should just vote nay on me. That means GreY should start thinking about what team to propose. As for Truth's team, I'm still mulling over whether or not Truth is likely town, because I think whether or not the team is good solely depends on if Truth is town. Here greymist i help u | ||
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Blazinghand
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I wish anyone read ppkls posts | ||
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Ya On December 29 2011 21:50 Zona wrote: meh ##vote Zona: nay | ||
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Votes for current team: Yays: Nays: Zona Blazinghand Herr i help u | ||
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On December 30 2011 11:50 Jackal58 wrote: I don't want your approval scummy. Get a bigger phone. Other ppl agree that youe idea is dumb are wr all scum then | ||
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Re. Jackal58: Ladies and Gentlemen, in light of his hammering the D vote and his proposition of a nearly-sure-to-fail team, I find myself strongly suspicious of him. This suspicion is only further compounded by his non-response to by questioning the wisdom of his ideas-- especially given the risks involved with picking a team entirely from people who didn't go last night, risks that we are all aware of and are generally unwilling to take. Unless I am further convinced, I will vote nay on any team including him OR proposed by him as Leader. Re. Radfield's Incessant Badgering and non-reading of my posts: Seriously Radfield? I consider Radfield to be scummy due to his actions which include a deceptive voting pattern for his own team d1, and his lack of justification for his own team d1, both of which are things I called him out on and he only rectified after I did so. In any case, if I had to pick a team at the moment, I think I'd pick myself, Palmar, and 2 additional players-- PROBABLY Toadesstern... and the last pick is tough. I'd probably badger zona to try to get a better read, but, failing that, ... UGH i guess it would be between Greymist and VisceralEyes. Probably Greymist, but i'll have to go back through VE's posts to get a better read on him. You also ask "well what if you had to select a team without yourself on it" and my answer to that is "I categorically refuse to make a team without myself when I am leader." But yeah my chief concerns here are Radfield and Jackal as far as mafia goes. There's still some possibility that it was Palmar and not Radfield, but I think it's Radfield. | ||
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Palmar is town because Radfield is scum and there was 1 spy onboard last night (probably). Also he hasn't been acting untownlike. Toaddestern is town because he did good math and is trying to help. Greymist is town (I think) because he's posting and trying to be helpful. His somewhat lax reading comprehensive skills and questionable knowledge of probability do not help him here but I'm torn between him and VE for this place. So Palmar, your case against me is "Radfield is town". This is reasonable. If you a town player believe Radfield to be town, logically I must be scum. HOWEVER I'm not a fan of the way Radfield didn't vote for his own team, didn't follow up on his initial logic discussion re: team composition for day 1 leading into his team, and furthermore didn't try to justify or defend his choice of team until after I called it out of him. This leads me to believe he was scum. You clearly find these arguments unconvincing. Why is that? | ||
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Blazinghand
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He's scummy because he didn't provide any justification for his team whatsoever until after I called him out for offering no justification whatsoever, and ALSO didn't vote for his team until I called him out for not voting for his team. Was it good that the jackal hammer happened? No. Although that lets us know Jackal is a scummy bastard, it also choked off our vital D1 discussion and caused us to lose our initial mission. If there had been more time, things D1 could have been different. | ||
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THAT BEING SAID if people are gonna be like "hey man i'm just straight up not reading posts in this thread nor am I reading the voting thread" you will all be subject to my typo-ridden remonstrations again. I won't be in a car this time though so It won't actually be typo-ridden and I will have time to correct them, etc. Also, "Jackal hammer" kinda looks like "jackhammer". heh. night | ||
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On December 30 2011 22:12 Radfield wrote: The fact that you are harping on these things when they not remotely scummy makes you look very very bad. I don't believe you. I don't think you found me scummy at all until after I proposed the team. A team which you were a part of, and a team which you knew would fail. You voted against a Day 1 team including yourself which is absurdly scummy. You are desperately trying to paint me as scum(not to mention ignoring me and constantly repeating yourself) because it otherwise becomes obvious that you are scum. See, I think you don't believe me because you're scum and you have no reason to believe me. I think you deliberately picked me to be part of your team because of my response to your initial post, thinking that I would be a good "fall guy" for when the team failed. I think you're scum, and I thought that yesterday. See, you claim that it's scummy to vote against a team with myself on it. However, imagine the following situation: A day 1 team is proposed, and I am on it, but so is a very very scummy player. A player so scummy that I actually think that the team is more likely to fail than normal, even taking into account that I am a town player. Naturally, I vote against the team. Then, said player and his scumbuddy hammer home the discussion, ending Day 1 and sending us to the night phase. If I were a scum player, and you are not a scum player, and you pick me for the team, it's true I could play some longwinded game of "oh hey guys I think radfield is scum, i'm gonna nayvote this team." I could stick my neck out for no real reason and take on these arguments, drawing a great deal of attention to myself. I don't think that would make a lot of sense though. A mafia player who had the good fortune to get picked day1 certainly wouldn't vote against his own team. If he was trying to abdicate his responsability for the vote, he'd just not vote at all. And he certainly wouldn't pick out one guy and label him scummy. On the other hand, if I'm a town player, I identified a bad team and voted nay on it, even though I was on it, because I want town to succeed. Oh, hey, that actually sounds like a simple, clear, and non-convoluted explanation for why my actions make sense! | ||
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Blazinghand
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But yeah you're basically scum for hammering that. I mean you could also be super terrible but *I* think you're scum and until you can convince me otherwise I will nay any team proposed by you or containing you. | ||
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On December 31 2011 02:34 Jackal58 wrote: I don't need to speculate on my towniness. Correction: you have not chosen to defend yourself. You shun the spotlight because you're worried about being revealed for what you are. | ||
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