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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 30 2011 02:32 GMT
#255
Greymist read zonas filtr he explains tjst he ais nayvoting himself
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 30 2011 02:33 GMT
#256
Oh hey what a surprisr ppl finally listening to me and it turns out that i as always am right
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 30 2011 02:38 GMT
#258
On December 29 2011 21:00 Zona wrote:
I agree that it's most likely that there was only 1 spy on the mission last night. However, all of you should not take my (
It's for this reason that if Truth's team is rejected, I will forgo choosing a team and all of you should just vote nay on me. That means GreY should start thinking about what team to propose.

As for Truth's team, I'm still mulling over whether or not Truth is likely town, because I think whether or not the team is good solely depends on if Truth is town.


Here greymist i help u
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 30 2011 02:40 GMT
#260
Ya dats rigbt im bettet at fidng tjis stiff via phonr thsn you are via computerbo ya i even make post quote excerpt.for u huh

I wish anyone read ppkls posts
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 30 2011 02:43 GMT
#262
Ih whats this vlazinghand youbalso find vote podt?? How di u do this when vote thread is so big blazonghand is so sexy

Ya
On December 29 2011 21:50 Zona wrote:
meh

##vote Zona: nay

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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 30 2011 02:47 GMT
#267

Votes for current team:
Yays:
Nays: Zona Blazinghand
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Herr i help u
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 30 2011 02:51 GMT
#269
On December 30 2011 11:50 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2011 10:13 Blazinghand wrote:
Gremist thats old news jackals idea is clearly either moronical or scum as i have said

I don't want your approval scummy. Get a bigger phone.

Other ppl agree that youe idea is dumb are wr all scum then
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 30 2011 03:23 GMT
#271
Gentlemen how do ws feel about jackal59 in ligjt of his hammering and his proposition of a sure-to+fail team, a proposition tjat he has yet to retract instead chosing to bm my admittedly subpar typimg slkils? I am hifhly suspicious of him and will nay any team that includes him or is propoaed by him umless.i can be convinced of his innoxence
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 30 2011 09:21 GMT
#273
I have arrived at home. To whit:

Re. Jackal58: Ladies and Gentlemen, in light of his hammering the D vote and his proposition of a nearly-sure-to-fail team, I find myself strongly suspicious of him. This suspicion is only further compounded by his non-response to by questioning the wisdom of his ideas-- especially given the risks involved with picking a team entirely from people who didn't go last night, risks that we are all aware of and are generally unwilling to take. Unless I am further convinced, I will vote nay on any team including him OR proposed by him as Leader.

Re. Radfield's Incessant Badgering and non-reading of my posts: Seriously Radfield? I consider Radfield to be scummy due to his actions which include a deceptive voting pattern for his own team d1, and his lack of justification for his own team d1, both of which are things I called him out on and he only rectified after I did so. In any case, if I had to pick a team at the moment, I think I'd pick myself, Palmar, and 2 additional players-- PROBABLY Toadesstern... and the last pick is tough. I'd probably badger zona to try to get a better read, but, failing that, ... UGH i guess it would be between Greymist and VisceralEyes. Probably Greymist, but i'll have to go back through VE's posts to get a better read on him.

You also ask "well what if you had to select a team without yourself on it" and my answer to that is "I categorically refuse to make a team without myself when I am leader."

But yeah my chief concerns here are Radfield and Jackal as far as mafia goes. There's still some possibility that it was Palmar and not Radfield, but I think it's Radfield.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 30 2011 09:22 GMT
#274
Palmar is you select a team with Radfield AND yourself on it you are shooting yourself in the foot. I'm 100% srs I will Nayvote ANY TEAM that includes both Radfield and Palmar because such a team includes a spy.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 30 2011 09:32 GMT
#275
That being said, GreyMist is up next if people could finish NayVoting zona.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 30 2011 09:40 GMT
#277
Alright, well, will you afford me the opportunity to defend myself? Offer your case for why I am scum, and I will do my best to defray your arguments. Either I'm scum and wasting your time, or I'm town and trying to save the upcoming mission. Given that it's POSSIBLE I'm town, could you state your case?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 30 2011 10:02 GMT
#279
My top 3 town reads are Palmar, Toaddestern and Greymist.

Palmar is town because Radfield is scum and there was 1 spy onboard last night (probably). Also he hasn't been acting untownlike.

Toaddestern is town because he did good math and is trying to help.

Greymist is town (I think) because he's posting and trying to be helpful. His somewhat lax reading comprehensive skills and questionable knowledge of probability do not help him here but I'm torn between him and VE for this place.





So Palmar, your case against me is "Radfield is town". This is reasonable. If you a town player believe Radfield to be town, logically I must be scum.

HOWEVER

I'm not a fan of the way Radfield didn't vote for his own team, didn't follow up on his initial logic discussion re: team composition for day 1 leading into his team, and furthermore didn't try to justify or defend his choice of team until after I called it out of him. This leads me to believe he was scum. You clearly find these arguments unconvincing. Why is that?
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 30 2011 10:12 GMT
#281
I'm not talking about the REASON I disliked his team. The fact that I disliked his team doesn't make him scummy-- granted, I disliked his team because I found HIM scummy, but that's not why he's scummy.

He's scummy because he didn't provide any justification for his team whatsoever until after I called him out for offering no justification whatsoever, and ALSO didn't vote for his team until I called him out for not voting for his team. Was it good that the jackal hammer happened? No. Although that lets us know Jackal is a scummy bastard, it also choked off our vital D1 discussion and caused us to lose our initial mission. If there had been more time, things D1 could have been different.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 30 2011 10:13 GMT
#282
Like, the idea that a scummy Jackal hammer cutting short our D1 discussion and sending a failed team on the first mission was a net positive is basically false.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 30 2011 10:41 GMT
#283
Man way to bail. OK well I guess you went to bed. I'm off for a bit since I need to do that sleep BS. I'll check back sometime tomorrow afternoon when I wake up. After dinner ish though I'll be on via phone, and rereading some of my posts i'm inclined to spend more time reading than writing.

THAT BEING SAID if people are gonna be like "hey man i'm just straight up not reading posts in this thread nor am I reading the voting thread" you will all be subject to my typo-ridden remonstrations again. I won't be in a car this time though so It won't actually be typo-ridden and I will have time to correct them, etc.

Also, "Jackal hammer" kinda looks like "jackhammer". heh.

night
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 30 2011 17:23 GMT
#287
On December 30 2011 22:12 Radfield wrote:
The fact that you are harping on these things when they not remotely scummy makes you look very very bad.

Show nested quote +
I'm not talking about the REASON I disliked his team. The fact that I disliked his team doesn't make him scummy-- granted, I disliked his team because I found HIM scummy, but that's not why he's scummy.


I don't believe you. I don't think you found me scummy at all until after I proposed the team. A team which you were a part of, and a team which you knew would fail. You voted against a Day 1 team including yourself which is absurdly scummy. You are desperately trying to paint me as scum(not to mention ignoring me and constantly repeating yourself) because it otherwise becomes obvious that you are scum.


See, I think you don't believe me because you're scum and you have no reason to believe me. I think you deliberately picked me to be part of your team because of my response to your initial post, thinking that I would be a good "fall guy" for when the team failed. I think you're scum, and I thought that yesterday.

See, you claim that it's scummy to vote against a team with myself on it. However, imagine the following situation: A day 1 team is proposed, and I am on it, but so is a very very scummy player. A player so scummy that I actually think that the team is more likely to fail than normal, even taking into account that I am a town player. Naturally, I vote against the team.

Then, said player and his scumbuddy hammer home the discussion, ending Day 1 and sending us to the night phase.

If I were a scum player, and you are not a scum player, and you pick me for the team, it's true I could play some longwinded game of "oh hey guys I think radfield is scum, i'm gonna nayvote this team." I could stick my neck out for no real reason and take on these arguments, drawing a great deal of attention to myself. I don't think that would make a lot of sense though. A mafia player who had the good fortune to get picked day1 certainly wouldn't vote against his own team. If he was trying to abdicate his responsability for the vote, he'd just not vote at all. And he certainly wouldn't pick out one guy and label him scummy.

On the other hand, if I'm a town player, I identified a bad team and voted nay on it, even though I was on it, because I want town to succeed.

Oh, hey, that actually sounds like a simple, clear, and non-convoluted explanation for why my actions make sense!
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 30 2011 17:35 GMT
#290
Jackal, a team with 1 mafia player is the worst possibility for an N1 team, and provides the least information. Ideally an N1 team will have 2-3 mafia players or 0 mafia players. You hammered home a terrible team. The fact of the matter is, My filter is like 4-5 pages long because I AM STAYING IN THE SPOTLIGHT. The idea that I'm trying to avoid attention is patently ridiculous. I love attention.

But yeah you're basically scum for hammering that. I mean you could also be super terrible but *I* think you're scum and until you can convince me otherwise I will nay any team proposed by you or containing you.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 30 2011 17:36 GMT
#291
On December 31 2011 02:34 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 02:23 Blazinghand wrote:
On December 30 2011 22:12 Radfield wrote:
The fact that you are harping on these things when they not remotely scummy makes you look very very bad.

I'm not talking about the REASON I disliked his team. The fact that I disliked his team doesn't make him scummy-- granted, I disliked his team because I found HIM scummy, but that's not why he's scummy.


I don't believe you. I don't think you found me scummy at all until after I proposed the team. A team which you were a part of, and a team which you knew would fail. You voted against a Day 1 team including yourself which is absurdly scummy. You are desperately trying to paint me as scum(not to mention ignoring me and constantly repeating yourself) because it otherwise becomes obvious that you are scum.


See, I think you don't believe me because you're scum and you have no reason to believe me. I think you deliberately picked me to be part of your team because of my response to your initial post, thinking that I would be a good "fall guy" for when the team failed. I think you're scum, and I thought that yesterday.

See, you claim that it's scummy to vote against a team with myself on it. However, imagine the following situation: A day 1 team is proposed, and I am on it, but so is a very very scummy player. A player so scummy that I actually think that the team is more likely to fail than normal, even taking into account that I am a town player. Naturally, I vote against the team.

Then, said player and his scumbuddy hammer home the discussion, ending Day 1 and sending us to the night phase.

If I were a scum player, and you are not a scum player, and you pick me for the team, it's true I could play some longwinded game of "oh hey guys I think radfield is scum, i'm gonna nayvote this team." I could stick my neck out for no real reason and take on these arguments, drawing a great deal of attention to myself. I don't think that would make a lot of sense though. A mafia player who had the good fortune to get picked day1 certainly wouldn't vote against his own team. If he was trying to abdicate his responsability for the vote, he'd just not vote at all. And he certainly wouldn't pick out one guy and label him scummy.

On the other hand, if I'm a town player,I identified a bad team and voted nay on it, even though I was on it, because I want town to succeed.

Oh, hey, that actually sounds like a simple, clear, and non-convoluted explanation for why my actions make sense!

I don't need to speculate on my towniness.


Correction: you have not chosen to defend yourself. You shun the spotlight because you're worried about being revealed for what you are.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25552 Posts
December 30 2011 17:44 GMT
#292
Alright gents im going mobile. Will respond occadionally. I breathlessly await the new team suggeston
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