Yeah anyone who's town right now is scrambling to get together a team so we don't auto lose. Radfield is Canadian which means it's between 1 pm and 4 pm where he is-- h e may be at work. But, if that's the case, this entire game's gonna be over before he comes home from work.

Palmar is Icelandic which means it's 9 pm for him right now-- he should be awake and online.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

January 04 2012 21:02 GMT

#523

Radfield is playing radically different from his normal play, and the fact that Palmar doesn't see it makes perfect sense if they're both scum. Like, Radfield claims to be trying to 'generate discussion' but all he discusses in detail is why Blaze HAS to be scum. Defending himself to no end against Blaze' onslaught of suspicion. To be fair, the reasons he "fingered Rad d1" are totally bogus and lent to why I thought Blaze was scum in the first place, but that doesn't change the facts here and now. Here and now, town is about to lose and a town Radfield wouldn't just pop in to say 'Nuh uh you guys' and leave again. Town Radfield would be trying to convince people...ESPECIALLY people he feels are likely townies.

Rad is scum, and Palmar's insistence that nothing is wrong with Rad's play makes Palmar scum too. The current team is bunk. Toad, I implore you to Nay the present team and Yay mine.

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

January 04 2012 21:03 GMT

#524

Indeed, we do need to Nay the present team as soon as possible, and Toad, we need your help for that. If you could stop being afk for a moment, please, give it a try.

Look, EVEN if you think I'm scum, EVEN SO, you have to admit that currently, VE and I will not accept that team. If I'm town, I will never accept a Palm+Rad team since the N1 mission failed. We need every vote we can get to avoid an autoloss here

Help us out.

Also, Palmar is in the TLMafia IRC, so his computer is physically powered on. Dunno what he's up to

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

January 04 2012 21:04 GMT

#525

Don't use outside sources Blaze, 'swrongwitchoo?

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

January 04 2012 21:05 GMT

#526

Oh does that count as out-of-thread communication? D:

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

January 04 2012 21:06 GMT

#527

Like, if I saw Palmar posting in the strategy forum and posted here "hey man why aren't you posting in mafia you're clearly online" would that be out of thread communication

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

January 04 2012 21:06 GMT

#528

Blaze, the team is Rad Palmar and Toad...Toad isn't going to help us. This is pretty much over dawg.

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

January 04 2012 21:07 GMT

#529

It has occured to me that Toad may be scum... but

IT'S NOT OVER YET. There's still the possibility of THREE more town players stopping by in the next two hours. With 5 players we can nay down this team, then yay in your team.

Toadesstern

Germany16350 Posts

January 04 2012 21:08 GMT

#530

I'm here but I think VE is scum so I don't really like that one either. A team suggested by rad, truth or zona would be fine for me. VE only if I have to because we only got 10 mins left. Just like with palmar

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

January 04 2012 21:08 GMT

#531

I will be here, refreshing, in hopes that three town players check back in time to join me and VE in saving this game.

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

January 04 2012 21:09 GMT

#532

OK SO WAIT Toad you think Palmar is scum? who do you think is scum.

Toadesstern

Germany16350 Posts

January 04 2012 21:10 GMT

#533

and yeah I'm pretty sure BH is town right now given how much he tries to get a team going. So I'd much rather have a team with BH right now than a team with rad/palmar.

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

January 04 2012 21:10 GMT

#534

OK can we get a third nayvote on Palmar's team then? Then we'll just need 2 more to make VE in charge. Granted, VE maybe scum, but I'm 100% sure a team with both rad and palmar will fail.

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

January 04 2012 21:13 GMT

#535

Like, if you think i'm town, then that means that the current team proposed by palmar, which includes both himself and radfield, MUST include a scum player.

Toadesstern

Germany16350 Posts

January 04 2012 21:14 GMT

#536

Yeah I think palmar is scum just the way I think VE is scum right now and I'd like to not have to decide which one is getting m vote. So I'm leaving yay on palmar for the case that we don't get enough people in here. I think he's scum but that's not a 100% read. Not having a team at all is a 100% lose. So if you get 2 more people in here I will switch to nay instantly but I'm probably going to nay VE as well and will try to get a better leader.
Suspicious right now is Palmar, Rad, Truth, VE imo. So a Zona team would be nice if we make it that far or I'll have to try our luck and just pick one out of those 4.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

January 04 2012 21:17 GMT

#537

Here's my theory - it's convoluted and WIFOMy, but it's what I got.

Rad posts a team theory that's generally disliked by the active majority.

Blaze makes a post saying why he doesn't like it and raises the possibility of scum communicating that one will 'not sabotage'

Palmar, knowing the present leader is scum, makes a post that simultaneously implicates Blaze and instructs Rad surreptitiously to not sabotage. (Anyone [Blaze] who is discussing scum strategy is scum [...and will sabotage the mission *winkwink*...so don't do it *winkwink*])

Rad then actually posts his team of Radfield Palmar and Blaze, having picked up the hidden meaning of Palmar's message.

Now, where were Palmar and Rad during the "morning" of D2? You remember, when I was going ape-shit about scumBlaze and he was going ape-shit about scumVE...where were our 'totally townie teamsters' then? They came in later, after the dust had settled and the lines had been drawn.

Palmar was on the second mission, which would account for its failure...but I highly doubt anyone else on the N2 mission is scum because honestly (no offense) none of them are really good enough to pick up a message like the one D1 that Rad picked up. It's possible I guess, but not likely in my opinion.

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

January 04 2012 21:18 GMT

#538

As long as you keep on refreshing the thread, and you nayvote Palmar when the time comes, that works for me.

But you have to understand, I cannot vote yay on a Palm/Rad team. You're voting yay on a team that includes half of your scumlist. I can only hope that a couple more people show up, and we salvage this game.

VisceraEyes

United States21171 Posts

January 04 2012 21:18 GMT

#539

Which means that I don't really think Toad is scum...I was just barbing him into activity.

Blazinghand

United States25562 Posts

January 04 2012 21:19 GMT

#540

VE your theory is what i've been trying to convince people of for like 10 pages.

That being said, Toad seems unwilling to unyayvote Palmar, even though he thinks i'm town and the team includes Rad/Palm.

At this point we just need to wait for more poeple to show up

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