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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
December 30 2011 20:05 GMT
#301
You need to use a zbot-readable format so right noe no ody yayvote him until he has set his team bexcause even though he is probs town he could be going for some sneaky switch.

Also i preemptive nayvote rad while at it
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 30 2011 20:09 GMT
#302
You still on that blazing? Whoever puts a team forward is obviously going to vote for it, so it's a bit hard to remember to do sometimes.

And rad, I feel that VE is as likely town as you are at this point, and I feel strongly that toad and palmar at the moment are town. This is the reason just these 4 appear on my team. I'm going to reformat my team post now.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
December 30 2011 20:12 GMT
#303
I didny say you were scum just aski.g why you not yayvote self but i wil wait for you to wprk out uour voting thread issues

When you do i will yayvote
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Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 30 2011 20:14 GMT
#304
Why did you not try to persuade other players to vote nay against my team?

Why, when you were obviously around and apparently already thought I was scum, did you wait 3 hours before nay voting my team?

Why have you ignored this post that I made: post. I say ignore, because you have not called me a liar, and you keep pretending I haven't responded to that argument.

Why did you only post your reasons for nay voting my team when you got called out by Greymist? You state I was obvious scum at that point yet you did nothing to stop my team from going through. In fact it appears you would never have posted in depth your reasons for voting against my team unless greymist had called you out. Do you deny that?


Please don't respond to this unless:

a) you are using a keyboard

or

b) you are willing to proofread your post

I am willing to wait.



Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 30 2011 20:17 GMT
#305
On December 31 2011 05:09 GreYMisT wrote:
You still on that blazing? Whoever puts a team forward is obviously going to vote for it, so it's a bit hard to remember to do sometimes.

And rad, I feel that VE is as likely town as you are at this point, and I feel strongly that toad and palmar at the moment are town. This is the reason just these 4 appear on my team. I'm going to reformat my team post now.



Yeah, I pretty much agree with your team, but would like to swap you out for me. Hope you understand

If Toad is willing to run me, him, palmar and VE I will nay vote you and yay vote him.

If he is not willing to run that team than I will approve your team, as I feel it is second best. However, I admit I am not particularly willing to yay vote a team that has blazinghand's support...
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 30 2011 20:19 GMT
#306
On December 31 2011 05:05 Blazinghand wrote:
You need to use a zbot-readable format so right noe no ody yayvote him until he has set his team bexcause even though he is probs town he could be going for some sneaky switch.



Ridiculous. No townie should be running with this kind of train of thought.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
December 30 2011 20:20 GMT
#307
On December 31 2011 05:14 Radfield wrote:
Why did you not try to persuade other players to vote nay against my team?

Why, when you were obviously around and apparently already thought I was scum, did you wait 3 hours before nay voting my team?

Why have you ignored this post that I made: post. I say ignore, because you have not called me a liar, and you keep pretending I haven't responded to that argument.

Why did you only post your reasons for nay voting my team when you got called out by Greymist? You state I was obvious scum at that point yet you did nothing to stop my team from going through. In fact it appears you would never have posted in depth your reasons for voting against my team unless greymist had called you out. Do you deny that?


Radfields strat is to ignore my questions and make other questions

fine i will wait for keyboard to respond to you

greymist you got a yayvote from me but ur slef-yayvote post is miformatted
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
December 30 2011 20:21 GMT
#308
On December 31 2011 05:17 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 05:09 GreYMisT wrote:
You still on that blazing? Whoever puts a team forward is obviously going to vote for it, so it's a bit hard to remember to do sometimes.

And rad, I feel that VE is as likely town as you are at this point, and I feel strongly that toad and palmar at the moment are town. This is the reason just these 4 appear on my team. I'm going to reformat my team post now.



Yeah, I pretty much agree with your team, but would like to swap you out for me. Hope you understand

If Toad is willing to run me, him, palmar and VE I will nay vote you and yay vote him.

If he is not willing to run that team than I will approve your team, as I feel it is second best. However, I admit I am not particularly willing to yay vote a team that has blazinghand's support...


what is this if you are like "oh i think this team is god but i would swap gm 4 me" and it's like "hurr durr i am scum and want excuse to nayvote so i will antiparrot bh"

scum move imo
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
December 30 2011 20:23 GMT
#309
I'm going to yay this team.
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 30 2011 20:25 GMT
#310
Rad im not going to propose a team without me on it, that doesnt make sense from my perspective.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
December 30 2011 20:28 GMT
#311
yeah but it makes sense from the "rad is scum" perspective i don't know if your pauig attn but evertthing rad says doesnt makr sense
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 30 2011 20:29 GMT
#312
On December 31 2011 05:28 Blazinghand wrote:
yeah but it makes sense from the "rad is scum" perspective i don't know if your pauig attn but evertthing rad says doesnt makr sense


keyboard/proofread
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
December 30 2011 20:30 GMT
#313
On December 31 2011 05:29 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 05:28 Blazinghand wrote:
yeah but it makes sense from the "rad is scum" perspective i don't know if your pauig attn but evertthing rad says doesnt makr sense


keyboard/proofread


that @ all ur voting post
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 30 2011 20:34 GMT
#314
On December 31 2011 05:30 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 05:29 GreYMisT wrote:
On December 31 2011 05:28 Blazinghand wrote:
yeah but it makes sense from the "rad is scum" perspective i don't know if your pauig attn but evertthing rad says doesnt makr sense


keyboard/proofread


that @ all ur voting post


sry, im used to having to type ##Vote: and not ##Vote with no ":"

also ive been on my phone for the past 2 hours, whose posts are more legible?

In any case I'm done asking you to post legibly.
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Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 30 2011 20:39 GMT
#315
On December 31 2011 05:25 GreYMisT wrote:
Rad im not going to propose a team without me on it, that doesnt make sense from my perspective.



I know it doesn't and chances are I will approve this team. But I do think it makes sense to put both me and Palmar in this mission.

Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
December 30 2011 20:39 GMT
#316
thats fair let me make thhat legible for you

On December 31 2011 05:28 Blazinghand wrote:

Indeed you make a fair point; let me note however that it makes sense from the "rad is scum" perspective. I don't know if you, good sir, have been paying much attention, but in my opinion many things radfield says do not make sense, as part of an intentional attempt to obfuscate our discussions

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Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 30 2011 20:49 GMT
#317
On December 31 2011 05:20 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 05:14 Radfield wrote:
Why did you not try to persuade other players to vote nay against my team?

Why, when you were obviously around and apparently already thought I was scum, did you wait 3 hours before nay voting my team?

Why have you ignored this post that I made: post. I say ignore, because you have not called me a liar, and you keep pretending I haven't responded to that argument.

Why did you only post your reasons for nay voting my team when you got called out by Greymist? You state I was obvious scum at that point yet you did nothing to stop my team from going through. In fact it appears you would never have posted in depth your reasons for voting against my team unless greymist had called you out. Do you deny that?


Radfields strat is to ignore my questions and make other questions

fine i will wait for keyboard to respond to you

greymist you got a yayvote from me but ur slef-yayvote post is miformatted



I just went over all your posts in the last 24 hours. That is over 30 posts, and none of them pose me any real questions(other than rhetorical questions). If you had important questions for me that went unanswered before that, 24 hours and 30 posts was enough time to re-ask them if you really cared.

If you actually have questions, feel free to ask.

Am I the only one who finds blazinghand over-the-top scummy?
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 30 2011 20:53 GMT
#318
VE should be posting more
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
December 30 2011 20:59 GMT
#319
On December 31 2011 02:23 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 30 2011 22:12 Radfield wrote:
The fact that you are harping on these things when they not remotely scummy makes you look very very bad.

I'm not talking about the REASON I disliked his team. The fact that I disliked his team doesn't make him scummy-- granted, I disliked his team because I found HIM scummy, but that's not why he's scummy.


I don't believe you. I don't think you found me scummy at all until after I proposed the team. A team which you were a part of, and a team which you knew would fail. You voted against a Day 1 team including yourself which is absurdly scummy. You are desperately trying to paint me as scum(not to mention ignoring me and constantly repeating yourself) because it otherwise becomes obvious that you are scum.


See, I think you don't believe me because you're scum and you have no reason to believe me. I think you deliberately picked me to be part of your team because of my response to your initial post, thinking that I would be a good "fall guy" for when the team failed. I think you're scum, and I thought that yesterday.

See, you claim that it's scummy to vote against a team with myself on it. However, imagine the following situation: A day 1 team is proposed, and I am on it, but so is a very very scummy player. A player so scummy that I actually think that the team is more likely to fail than normal, even taking into account that I am a town player. Naturally, I vote against the team.

Then, said player and his scumbuddy hammer home the discussion, ending Day 1 and sending us to the night phase.

If I were a scum player, and you are not a scum player, and you pick me for the team, it's true I could play some longwinded game of "oh hey guys I think radfield is scum, i'm gonna nayvote this team." I could stick my neck out for no real reason and take on these arguments, drawing a great deal of attention to myself. I don't think that would make a lot of sense though. A mafia player who had the good fortune to get picked day1 certainly wouldn't vote against his own team. If he was trying to abdicate his responsability for the vote, he'd just not vote at all. And he certainly wouldn't pick out one guy and label him scummy.

On the other hand, if I'm a town player, I identified a bad team and voted nay on it, even though I was on it, because I want town to succeed.

Oh, hey, that actually sounds like a simple, clear, and non-convoluted explanation for why my actions make sense!



Your response is a complicated vague convoluted explanation for my actions:

On December 31 2011 04:40 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 31 2011 02:23 Blazinghand wrote:

See, you claim that it's scummy to vote against a team with myself on it. However, imagine the following situation: A day 1 team is proposed, and I am on it, but so is a very very scummy player. A player so scummy that I actually think that the team is more likely to fail than normal, even taking into account that I am a town player. Naturally, I vote against the team.


Before I proposed my team, what made me very very scummy? Please elaborate.

Show nested quote +

If I were a scum player, and you are not a scum player, and you pick me for the team, it's true I could play some longwinded game of "oh hey guys I think radfield is scum, i'm gonna nayvote this team." I could stick my neck out for no real reason and take on these arguments, drawing a great deal of attention to myself. I don't think that would make a lot of sense though. A mafia player who had the good fortune to get picked day1 certainly wouldn't vote against his own team. If he was trying to abdicate his responsability for the vote, he'd just not vote at all. And he certainly wouldn't pick out one guy and label him scummy.

On the other hand, if I'm a town player, I identified a bad team and voted nay on it, even though I was on it, because I want town to succeed.

Oh, hey, that actually sounds like a simple, clear, and non-convoluted explanation for why my actions make sense!



Allow me to lay out a simple, clear and non-convoluted explanation for your actions as scum:

You are scum, you are placed on the Day 1 team, knowing you will sabotage the mission and that it will fail you immediately seek to both distance yourself from the team, while simultaneously casting suspicion on another player on the mission.

It's pretty classic scum play actually. Townie is getting lynched, scum pops in towards the end and yells about how dumb the lynch is and how said player is obviously town.

10:26 Radfield proposes a team
10:29 Blazinghand questions the reasons for the team
10:31 Radfield posts his reasons for his team

Over the next 3 hours 3 people vote yes for my team. I had not yet voted so that makes it already at 4 votes, making the team virtually assured. At this point Blazinghand returns to the thread and votes against my team calling me scummy. Keep in mind at this point the team is pretty much already assured to go through.

Blazinghand then makes a number of posts, but none of them related to the team or voting. In fact, other than when he is directly asked by Greymist he does not mention the team. He is obviously around in the thread(answers greymist 10 minutes after the question is asked) but is not trying to stop players from voting for my team.

Think about this for a second. Blazinghand is sure that I am OBVIOUS scum. So sure is he that I am scum, he is voting against a team which includes himself on Day 1. Yet despite his sureness, he makes absolutely no effort to dissuade other players from voting through my team. This is a team he is almost sure is going to fail, yet he waits for 3 votes before mentioning in passing that he will not vote for my team. Even after he states his 'nay' intention he makes no effort to halt the team from getting passed.

Blazinghand is a spy


You seriously think that's a legit response? You are aware the townspeople in this thread are not the chief producers of warm linens and undergarments. They are not notorious for their fluffy hair and affinity with semi-nomadic herders. Basically what im saying is: they are not sheep.

Anyone who reads your post and thinks "oh yes this is a good strat that scum would do and this would be a reasonable choice" is clearly an idiot, or hasn't though things through. If you want a good strat for scum check out jackal's weaving and dodging

You are probably the only one who finds me over-the-top scummy, because any reasonable person is thinking "wait blazinghand in addition to being generally sexy, suave, likeable, and basically a great guy, is making some good points here. Let me think about this.

Like, how is it not the best explanation that I 1) fingers you as scum 2) is like "hey guys lets think about this before voting 3) try to stop the quickhammer and you're like "hey man why you not try to stop it harder" well you know what I did what I could. maybe I could have done better but I didn't think people would be all over that terrible team like a dog on a butt-flavored biscuit.
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Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
December 30 2011 21:00 GMT
#320
plz escuse the formatting its kinda hard to go back in the mobile app. im gonna eat some lunch and ill check back home in a few hours for a keyboard response. all this spell check is taking too long
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