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kitaman27
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kitaman27
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 Also, ##Vote Liquid`Sheth | ||
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kitaman27
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On December 21 2011 02:05 GMarshal wrote: Sure, it is because I hate hydras, with a burning passion. Pushing a policy you announced pre-game doesn't help us determine where you stand. Even if you do hate hydras, you have to do better than that and actually make a case why they are scummy, rather than stating that they are just hard to read. On December 21 2011 02:46 Liquid`Sheth wrote: Don't do it! Chezinu its fine to keep acting weird for a bit, but realize your not helping town by confusing things. I'm not down for killing the hydra, curu and me are buds. You were more than willing to freely share your opinion in election mafia. I'd like to see more of that this game. | ||
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On December 17 2011 12:44 ZBot wrote: [b][blue] Day 1 Vote Count L (0): That's strange, apparently I've voted and unvoted for L already? Are there secret voting mechanics in play? | ||
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kitaman27
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People really need to stop talking about their roles. In past games, Ver has included role claim vig's to punish people and it would fit the responsibility theme perfectly. On December 21 2011 12:33 LSB wrote: I'm against the Foolishness lynch simply because it's a bad idea to lynch a vet day 1. Typically vets are the ones shot first, so there is a high probability that even if we don't lynch a vet, the vet still won't live to see day 2. Every player is a vet this game. If you're going to be against the lynch, it should be because you don't think he is scum. At this point, I'd probably consider it unless Foolishness is willing to show us he cares about the day one lynch. | ||
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On December 21 2011 13:51 Foolishness wrote: I will support BC in everything at this point because he used the word asshattery. Foolishness trolling -_- Apparently we're not allowed to touch him because he is too good? I haven't seen any attempt from him to establish himself as a pro-town player. Where is the effort? :/ I find it strange that BC comes in and tells Palmar to step up his game considering he only has one post, while complaining about him discussing neutral topics. He just finished spending three paragraphs describing why RNG is worse than analysis. Of course it is. I was worried Palmar not really pushing his influence on the lynch at first, but he seems to have picked things up. chaoser, would you mind explaining what you think GM is doing? And, GM what are you doing? Finally..... ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/xTYrk.jpg) | ||
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L, your Metric post is nice and all, but who exactly did you catch? It's not a very good trap if you don't mention anyone that has fallen for it. Foolishness, you seem more than willing to call certain people town, but who is scum? It's a lot easier to defend people, than to attack them. | ||
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I've been bringing up Sheth because he is the newest player and most likely to slip up from a random accusation. Go back in my history and I do this nearly every time. You accuse me of voting for someone who no one else is voting for, yet the vote was placed at the beginning of the day. Of course there wouldn't be any votes on him. That doesn't mean that is where my vote is going to stick by the end of the day. Yes, I've been prodding lurkers, but that's because its the people I find suspicious currently. I expect a lot more out of guys like Foolishness, BC and yourself. As for the LSB lynch, I have to go back and read through the thread again. I'll comment once I'm done. | ||
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As for the "deal with him tomorrow" plea, if we gave into emotional appeals, every player would post "just give me another day guys and I'll play better" right before a lynch. I don't think it should considered when deciding who to lynch. He mentions he is busy, but so am I. I've spent and entire day moving and I'm only running on 5 hours of sleep, but I'm still trying to keep up with the thread and post whenever I can. On December 22 2011 09:28 wherebugsgo wrote: yeah, while I think GM is probably scum too I don't think we should get off LSB. A lot of people have said GM is scum. I really doubt all of them are wrong, but we realistically can't afford to try to lynch GM so little time left in the day. There is not a little amount of time left in the day. We still have like 3 hours I believe. If we wanted a switch, it would be possible. If I had to choose between GM and LSB at the moment it would be GM. LSB has been pretty useless, but I haven't really seen anything that makes me think he is pushing a scum agenda. With GM, it really seemed like he was just posting for the sake of posting with the setup wall of text. If anyone else would have posted that, I'm pretty sure he would have called them out on it. I know it may look like an OMGUS, but this really isn't the GM town play that I'm used to, so that is where my vote is going for the moment. At first, I considered he might just be a townie with a bad read, but look how quick he backed off after people mentioned how bad it was. It's as if he didn't want to spotlight himself and he displays absolutely no confidence in his reads. ##Vote GMarshal If it becomes apparent that nobody agrees with me and he won't be lynched, I'd consider switching off him if there was a better case. On December 22 2011 09:51 Foolishness wrote: ##Vote: LSB I will be back before day ends to change if necessary. I'm still against but as always I'd rather lynch than no lynch. + Show Spoiler + Estimated number of people who will quote this post and call me mafia cause of it: 4 Estimated people: Palmar, Jackal, Curu/sandroba, kitaman lolol I already pressed the quote button before I even read the spoiler -_- Is everyone sure they wouldn't consider lynching Foolishness? | ||
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On December 22 2011 10:22 Liquid`Sheth wrote: ##Vote: LSB I sped read through the posts. I have a general picture of things going on. I don't feel that we have a great case against LSB, but I'd rather lynch then not. I have feelings, but no hard evidence. I'm one of those guys who needs a bit extra time, and yes I'm being apologetic about it. Sorry I didn't have the proper amount of attention to spend on this today. I will only get better, I doubt its possible to get worse then I've posted today. Unless I was Chezinu... I'm also still willing to consider lynching Sheth if others are up for it. No more apologies in future posts. k thx. | ||
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On December 22 2011 10:31 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm with ya Kita, but what can ya do? Apparently I'm an idiot who doesn't make any sense, so I'm certainly not going to be convincing anyone. Do you think your half-hearted pseudo-case is going to convince people? If you do, count me in the number of "Absolutely Willing To Switch to GM". Its tough to make a perfect case on a guy when he only has 2 posts of interest. It's not half-hearted though. I certainly would like to see him dead tonight if I could help it. Switching your vote is the first step. I'm not sure who you think is calling you an idiot, but you're one of my stronger town reads at the moment so don't let anyone discourage you from continuing to post. | ||
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On December 22 2011 10:35 Jackal58 wrote: Are they both scum Kita? or just LSB? Others have been willing to vote elsewhere but I'm imploring them to consolidate on LSB. If somebody needs to take responsibility for this lynch I will do so. I am going to push everybody to LSB. Even you Kita. If I'm wrong I'm wrong. If you guys feel a need to exact retribution from me if I'm wrong so be it. But I'm taking responsibility. Vote LSB. Don't split the lynch. I did everything I could to make sure that happened in 48. You're not emulating me are you Kita? Vote LSB. I'm not sure. I'm leaning scum on GM and uncertain/null on LSB. It's not that I want to split the lynch, but I have to push for the guy that I think is more likely to flip scum. Would you be willing to vote GM instead of LSB if the votes were available? | ||
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Dealing with stuff for election mafia that will probably take at least 20 minutes. Back in a bit. | ||
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What is the current deadline? I had thought it was 10pm CST, but the bot indicates 11pm CST. We still might be able to get off a lynch if we have a full extra hour remaining. | ||
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Also, why did you assume 3 mafia? OP clearly states the mafia count is four + a traitor. On December 22 2011 13:33 Foolishness wrote: ##Unvote: LSB ##Vote: GMarshal aaawwwwwww yeah! I knew I could count on your support. Now witness the wrath of my town influence as I gather 10 other votes in the next 20 minutes. ##Unvote ##Vote Foolishness | ||
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On December 22 2011 13:51 SamuelLJackson wrote: I'm inclined to believe GM's claim. He has no reason to counterclaim at this point if he is scum, there's no real gain to it for scum to fake that. Likewise LSB's claim makes no sense for scum either unless he has a night role that he want to use before death. That their role names are different should absolutely not be factored in as you can be sure Ver would have named identical roles different things especially after the debacle of the previous Incognito game where people were using role names and abilities to try to determine alignment. What they've both claimed is a role that is impossible to fulfil as scum. At this point I'd rather lynch Chezinu or Foolishness, both of whom have shown that despite prodding neither is posting with Town's interests at heart. Chezinu is being blatantly anti-Town with his posting still under the disguise of "Chezinu is Chezinu." Chezinu or Foolishness obviously wasn't going to get lynched, considering your post was only 10 minutes from the deadline, but what concerns me is that you just explained why you thought LSB's claim made no sense as scum, yet you didn't move your vote off him. Surely, a no-lynch would have been better, giving him an opportunity to shoot, if this was the way you guys felt, wouldn't it? GGQ also mentions how the case against LSB is thin and that he is not confident that he is scum, but he moves his vote to him anyways. RoL puts a placeholder on Chezinu, yet disappears for the remainder of the day. The last thing we need is another Team Melee game from him, so I hope to hear from him day two. There were also several other people who disappeared from the discussion, such as L and BC. | ||
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On December 23 2011 02:24 VisceraEyes wrote: What about my Traitor theory guys? Hey! Hey! What about my Traitor theory? Everyone's ignoring it! If GM were the traitor, the scum team would still need to shoot a scum to justify him living. I don't think the trade would be worth it, considering GM would then have to deal with having a reason for being alive for the remainder of the game for shooting scum. It looked like LSB was going to be lynched even before the counter-claim, so its not like traitor would have anything to gain by putting himself out there to be responsible for a vig shot tonight. | ||
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