Responsibility Mafia! - Page 2

On December 22 2011 06:55 GMarshal wrote:
LSB: Well, he hasn't come up with a mega plan yet, but I find wbg analysis against him to be quite weak. The fact is I expect better play from LSB overall. One point I didn't see brought up is that LSB seems to be lacking confidence, Town LSB is supremely confident, I don't get that "feel" here. his defense seems ok. I wanted to comment on him since he was a lynch target at some point.

On December 22 2011 07:19 GMarshal wrote:

I'm running on like 3 hours of sleep, cut me some slack. Reviewing, I apparently didn't read the case against LSB carefully enough the first time around.

On December 22 2011 07:58 GGQ wrote:


WTF did you even read my post?

On December 21 2011 14:08 GGQ wrote:

I agree completely that this game is wtf balls, but I have no idea how chez or bum have been doing helpful things with their boggling posts. As far as I'm concerned, they are just making crap up and talking about it without even explaining what they are talking about.

Neither the OP nor my role pm hints at anything like 'responsibility points' or 'triggered abilities' or having to post in a certain style or needing to avoid saying X or Y or whatever the fuck. But they just keep assuming this and harping on it and it's fucking up their posts to the point where it's just painful to read them.

Yes, this is Responsibility Mafia, we are expected to play well or we will have to take responsibility for it. Hey, guess what? That's true of every mafia game ever! The special mechanic of this game is that we're supposed to try to play well. Well, whoop-de-doo, isn't that unique?

As far as I'm concerned, there's nothing special about this game and that's how I'm going to play until I have reason to believe otherwise. I strongly encourage everyone else to do the same. If we're playing well we shouldn't have any reason to worry about taking responsibility, and if we're all trying to avoid responsibility the town atmosphere is gonna be shit.

1. RE cases being made so far

Chezinu's posts seem like garbage to me and I'm fine with lynching him.

As for the hydra, he seems on the level. I haven't noticed anything untoward about his posting and what he's after.

2 LSB is a better case, but it's still thin. Especially the accusation that he doesn't apply meta to chezinu. LSB's point was just that even when chezinu is posting rationally that doesn't mean he is town.

I'd like to find a better target before the lynch.

On December 22 2011 09:10 Curu wrote:
I can understand Palmar. He did the same thing in the game where he was sure Mig was scum but gave him some leeway because Mig said he was busy.

What I am worried about is that GM isn't above using emotional manipulation as scum. Actually Palmars first ever game I think GM kept trying to guilt Palmar into not voting him when GM was scum.

I won't be around for lynch. Posting from phone and I am about to leave but hopefully sandro will be here.

Curu

On December 22 2011 09:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
Do you not share any of WBG's concerns about LSB Jackal? Is there any reason you prefer an LSB vote to a GM vote?

On December 22 2011 09:44 Palmar wrote:
The most damning thing in LSB's play is that he has not actively pushed any lynch. I haven't actually played with him on day 1 before in a game I remember (he replaced in in steamship, and while his initial case on me was wrong, it was very aggressive). But I'd expect him to be actively trying to get his number one scumread (which seems to be sandroba/curu) lynched.

I also very much disagree with sandroba/curu being any kind of scummy. I actually have a pretty strong town read on them, my second strongest town read after Syllo I guess. All he did was accuse them of bandwagoning a case.

##Unvote
##Vote LSB

On December 22 2011 09:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
Palmar if I may be so bold, what gives you a stronger town read from SLJ and Syllo than, say, me?

On December 22 2011 09:51 flamewheel wrote:
good afternoon everybody

On December 22 2011 10:25 kitaman27 wrote:
Something that concerns me is that so many people seem to think that LSB and GM are both scum, yet they are only willing to vote LSB. The "accuse someone, and vote another way" is something that GM just did with his post against me.

As for the "deal with him tomorrow" plea, if we gave into emotional appeals, every player would post "just give me another day guys and I'll play better" right before a lynch. I don't think it should considered when deciding who to lynch. He mentions he is busy, but so am I. I've spent and entire day moving and I'm only running on 5 hours of sleep, but I'm still trying to keep up with the thread and post whenever I can.



There is not a little amount of time left in the day. We still have like 3 hours I believe. If we wanted a switch, it would be possible. If I had to choose between GM and LSB at the moment it would be GM. LSB has been pretty useless, but I haven't really seen anything that makes me think he is pushing a scum agenda. With GM, it really seemed like he was just posting for the sake of posting with the setup wall of text. If anyone else would have posted that, I'm pretty sure he would have called them out on it.

I know it may look like an OMGUS, but this really isn't the GM town play that I'm used to, so that is where my vote is going for the moment. At first, I considered he might just be a townie with a bad read, but look how quick he backed off after people mentioned how bad it was. It's as if he didn't want to spotlight himself and he displays absolutely no confidence in his reads.

##Vote GMarshal

If it becomes apparent that nobody agrees with me and he won't be lynched, I'd consider switching off him if there was a better case.



lolol I already pressed the quote button before I even read the spoiler -_-

Is everyone sure they wouldn't consider lynching Foolishness?

On December 22 2011 10:38 kitaman27 wrote:


I'm not sure. I'm leaning scum on GM and uncertain/null on LSB. It's not that I want to split the lynch, but I have to push for the guy that I think is more likely to flip scum. Would you be willing to vote GM instead of LSB if the votes were available?

On December 22 2011 11:44 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oh look, a suicide vig. *glare at GM*

On December 22 2011 11:44 LSB wrote:

Just saying, this is one of the most scummy posts I've seen in a while. You should know very well from experience, hey I've played with you in those games, that defending someone hard and soft is not necessarily mean someone is mafia or town.

On December 23 2011 05:10 L wrote:
RE: Availability

Just finished my term paper. Will be catching up with current events when my body recovers. Which will be after 5 showers, dinner, some freshly brewed tea and a rousing bout of intercourse with a model from Holland.

Cheerio chaps.

On December 23 2011 09:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
I don't; you really think BC's scum play would be that bad?

On December 23 2011 10:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
Jackal, it would be easier if you looked at anyone who WASN'T on LSB last night bro - it's clear from the shenanigans that scum were playing for a no-lynch toward the end, so I'll be the majority of the scum-team was NOT on LSB.

My 2 cents.

On December 23 2011 10:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
So you don't think leaving LSB alive and pushing him tomorrow would have been a viable play? That's what I would have done as scum, seeing how hard townies were pushing townies. That suspicion would still be there tomorrow, and a no-lynch denies town information.

But I see what you're saying. It also makes sense considering that the longer the game goes, the harder it is for scum to hide.

Be that as it may, I'm looking OFF the wagon, so I'll tell you what I find.