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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 16 2011 01:47 GMT
#1455
Deus seems to be only asking questions to people that he suspects as a mafia. I thought you picked up that yourself. Anyway, thanks for giving some reasoning behind your suspicions on Greymist.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 16 2011 02:46 GMT
#1469
That and you're only doing the bare minimum. "Yeah I'm doing that because someone told me to". :/
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 16 2011 02:48 GMT
#1471
On December 16 2011 11:47 nyczbrandon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2011 11:42 GreYMisT wrote:
On December 16 2011 11:35 nyczbrandon wrote:
On December 16 2011 11:32 GreYMisT wrote:
On December 16 2011 11:31 nyczbrandon wrote:
On December 16 2011 11:26 GreYMisT wrote:
Alright read through Risk's filter again, I have decided to take my vote off of him as my read on him has been reduced to near null.

In addition to what has been said that he "is attracting too much attention to play scum effectivly" i have found a few other things he has done that scum would not do.


On December 15 2011 11:47 risk.nuke wrote:
On December 15 2011 11:43 evantrees wrote:
may have been a similar ability, scum with a variant that needs to be used more than 2 hours beforehand, but could not have been exactly Eiii's apparently since the action on arc was submitted before the 2 hour mark.

On December 15 2011 09:21 prplhz wrote:
Was Eiii's District Attorney ability the same as the ability that was used on Arctocod last night?


"Welcome to Election Mafia! You are the district attorney! Once per game, you may nullify all election votes for target player. Your action must be submitted within 2 hours of the end of the day cycle. You win with town."
+ Show Spoiler +

[B]On December 14 2011 09:43 kitaman27 wrote:/B]
[image loading]


Breaking News!


Front runner candidate Arctocod has announced their withdrawal from the Day One Election! Tune in at 10 for further election coverage and to witness the daily execution LIVE!


Arctocod is no longer eligible to be elected day one. All votes against them have been nullified (zbot will not reflect the nullified votes). A little over 2 hours remain in the day. Players who do not vote for an eligible candidate will not be modkilled this cycle.


and since I considered it /typed it up earlier may as well post it, didn't want to post it alone for whatever reason.
probably a bad Idea. Concerning scum going for pardoner to keep their kp at 3 as long as possible.
Conclusion, it was dumb given how much is probably up in the air concerning roles and upcoming elections due to the closed setup.
+ Show Spoiler +

not certain by any means on ProfessorBadass one way or another, nor do we know exactly what roles are in this game but can kind of see scum going for pardoner to help keep their kp at 3 for as long as possible would it be worth sacrificing a member I'm not sure.
They would have tonight, maybe lynched townie nights in between, pardoned night and then down to 2 kp when the pardoner gets lynched.
worst case 3/3/2/2 down two scum, 3 vs 14 + medic saves. probably not worth it also
3/3/3/2/2 down two scum 3 vs 11 + medic saves.if another townie lynch.
+days for the other 3 to slip up.
3/3/3/3/2/2 3 vs 8 + medic saves. if we bloody lynch two more townies, even then seems too risky for them to try. given how much is probably up in the air concerning roles and upcoming elections due to the closed setup.

this is a closed setup, nobody said anything about 3 kp.


He posts this and then is told right after that the info is in the OP. if he was scum I would find it highly unlikely that that he would not know the way that kp was calculated is publicly availible.

In addition, the way he continuously kept saying that I am scum actually leads me to think he is town, now that i think about it. What would be the purpose of this as scum? to try to start an easy bandwagon against me. however it was obviously not working, as both I and others kept questioning his reasoning. To me a scum player would have stopped after he realized it wasnt working. Risk instead kept pursuing me, and continuously made his opinion known.

I still dont agee with the way he has gone about scumhunting this game, but after rereading i am not as sure as i was on him being scum.

Instead, I would encourage you to read nyczbrandon's filter. Notice the ways in which he says something while really saying nothing, how he hasnt contributed until he was called out for it, and even then didnt really say much or give a stance on anything. He just gave us 4 targets we were already all aware of, and brought nothing new to the table. My vote goes on nyczbrandon for now.


you mean the 4 targets that Radfield told me to look at?


yea those


I don't get what you want. I'm just listening to what Radfield is telling me to do and try to be less lurkerish. Now it seems like its better if I just remained a lurker.


This is it right here. From this post it is apparent that you know lurking is the wrong thing to do and that it hurts town. you also indicate that you have a choice in doing so or not. why is it then, that a town player would choose to lurk over being active and helping the town?


People said that lynching lurkers is bad and more likely to hit a lurking townie and would rather lynch a poster despite not having much information about both. I don't know if that is just for day 1 specifically but I think that seems like a viable reason for a townie to lurk.

Not really. I townie shouldn't be worried about being lynched, especially when no suspicions are even voiced against them.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 16 2011 02:48 GMT
#1472
That's more reason for a mafia to lurk.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 16 2011 06:54 GMT
#1490
If you were so busy reading filters, what came of it?... Nothing.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 16 2011 18:58 GMT
#1543
On December 17 2011 03:54 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
Risk and Grey my dear friends. You vote Prof. Badass right now please.

Furthermore I want your opinion on Zeks and totallynottwopeople.

I hope I'm not the only one that sees that you are directing all conversation. When I get home(on phone) ,I'm gonna look atthe filters of two people, and post what I find.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 16 2011 19:57 GMT
#1566
I'm going to analyse the dead player's filters.

prplhz's Filter
+ Show Spoiler +
What did he do that would make a mafia lynch him?
He's a vet, this could be enough reason on his own, but let's look at what he did(Key points in bold):
- Casts suspicion on Zeks, was near the top of the list to do so
- Successfully stopped MrZentor lynch
- Mentions that the withdrawal thing might have just been to get Arc out of the position.
- Voted for Refallen (later retracted quickly)
- Against Spaackle lynch (More for Nisani)
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Lynch on Spaackle
- Initiated the suspicion on Eiii(now dead sorry again guys )
- Mentions that Nisani should have been the bandwagon people went on: implied(imo) that mafia probably moved the vote to Spaackle (Radfield? :/)
- Put some questions on Risk.Nuke (note: this was around the time that almost everyone and his mom was doing this)

So what conclusion can we draw from Prplhz's filter?
He was suspicious of Nisani, and Zeks, mainly. While I earlier did say that it could be just vet killing, I believe it was either A) To save either the ass of Nisani or Zeks and
B) To stop him from continuing his suspicions on who started the Spaackle bandwagon.
C) Vet Killing


xksc's filter
+ Show Spoiler +

First of all, I belive more analysis can be drawn from this kill, because he was already under suspicions, and he isn't a big veteran presence like prplhz. So let's look at his filter shall we?
- Lots of fluff before he mentions MarserBlood
- Against the MrZentor Bandwagon
- Mentions MarserBlood again
- Started questioning Risk (before the big investigation on him happened)
- Voted Spaackles with 10 minutes left (later elaborated on said that he didn't agree with Nisani lynch)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Again on MarserBlood
- Again on Risk (this is when investigation was on though)

I'm getting very suspicious of MarserBlood now o.O I'll look through his filter now and tell you what I come up with.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 16 2011 19:57 GMT
#1567
God damnit, I got ninja'd in my idea >.<
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 16 2011 20:00 GMT
#1568
BTW, I'm still not convinced Risk is innocent.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 16 2011 20:05 GMT
#1571
Vig has shot himself? o.O I don't know wtf is gonna happen :/
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 16 2011 20:13 GMT
#1575
Well let's wait for the fireworks then...
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 16 2011 20:18 GMT
#1579
On December 17 2011 05:14 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2011 04:57 GiygaS wrote:
I'm going to analyse the dead player's filters.

prplhz's Filter
+ Show Spoiler +
What did he do that would make a mafia lynch him?
He's a vet, this could be enough reason on his own, but let's look at what he did(Key points in bold):
- Casts suspicion on Zeks, was near the top of the list to do so
- Successfully stopped MrZentor lynch
- Mentions that the withdrawal thing might have just been to get Arc out of the position.
- Voted for Refallen (later retracted quickly)
- Against Spaackle lynch (More for Nisani)
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Lynch on Spaackle
- Initiated the suspicion on Eiii(now dead sorry again guys )
- Mentions that Nisani should have been the bandwagon people went on: implied(imo) that mafia probably moved the vote to Spaackle (Radfield? :/)
- Put some questions on Risk.Nuke (note: this was around the time that almost everyone and his mom was doing this)

So what conclusion can we draw from Prplhz's filter?
He was suspicious of Nisani, and Zeks, mainly. While I earlier did say that it could be just vet killing, I believe it was either A) To save either the ass of Nisani or Zeks and
B) To stop him from continuing his suspicions on who started the Spaackle bandwagon.
C) Vet Killing


xksc's filter
+ Show Spoiler +

First of all, I belive more analysis can be drawn from this kill, because he was already under suspicions, and he isn't a big veteran presence like prplhz. So let's look at his filter shall we?
- Lots of fluff before he mentions MarserBlood
- Against the MrZentor Bandwagon
- Mentions MarserBlood again
- Started questioning Risk (before the big investigation on him happened)
- Voted Spaackles with 10 minutes left (later elaborated on said that he didn't agree with Nisani lynch)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
- Again on MarserBlood
- Again on Risk (this is when investigation was on though)

I'm getting very suspicious of MarserBlood now o.O I'll look through his filter now and tell you what I come up with.


You can't really analyize the reasons behind night kills too much, it creates too much WIFOM.


I'm doing it as WIFOM at the moment to create direction. If I look at MarserBlood's filter later on and see that it's scummy, I'm going to use that as evidence, this is only being used as a toll for where to go next for my suspicions.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 16 2011 20:45 GMT
#1604
Yeah, :/
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 16 2011 20:47 GMT
#1609
On December 17 2011 05:46 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
Giygas you think thats a mafia power? Please tell me why you think that other then just Arctocod said it would be? Freaking sheep.

I'm not being a sheep. What town role would be to silence someone? Also, ProfBA is basically quitting, so fuck him.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 16 2011 20:51 GMT
#1613
Deus is being a hypocrit when he says Palmogism is directing conversation. I am thinking, this role does not sound town-like in the least. Plus, for me, this is a policy lynch too. I don't want to reward a baby who throws a tantrum after things don't go his way. What kin of precedent does that send?
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 16 2011 20:52 GMT
#1615
@Sheth, it's because that would have been an insta-lynch too.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 16 2011 20:53 GMT
#1617
On December 17 2011 05:52 Arctocod wrote:
Sheth for the record you are going to be lynched next once Curu flips red

I don't agree with this in the least.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 16 2011 20:55 GMT
#1620
How am I being dumb? Explain, all I hear is rage in all caps.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 17 2011 05:54 GMT
#1711
On December 17 2011 14:53 Curu wrote:
And yes you should still be lynching me. I accept that I've put myself into this position with my stubbornness, attitude and activity, just want to say sorry in advance!

I'm also fairly pissed off at Erandorr who basically told me that I would get lynched sooner or later because of his non posting then continued to do nothing at all. It became an extremely uphill battle that I didn't want to put effort into facing.

Sorry to everyone I was overly aggressive to as well! I let a bit of my rage at my hydra partner spill over into my posting . No hard feelings.

Wait, can't you not talk or something?
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 17 2011 14:44 GMT
#1735
I'm sorry I haven't been very active in the last little while, I'll try to make up for it by going througha few filters and posting my thoughts as soon as I get home later today.
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