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ProfessorBadass
Profile Joined December 2011
94 Posts
December 14 2011 02:36 GMT
#821
I also think that risk's actions are consistent with the withdrawal if indeed that was scum-driven. Scum most likely did it to deny Arctocod the protection and risk is trying his damn best to make sure that I, as another Townie target, don't get it.
Spaackle
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States153 Posts
December 14 2011 02:36 GMT
#822
IMHO, it feels kind of like ProfBA is trying to bandwagon me. While I admit that my posts have not been very town, I don't see where I'm giving people scumreads.

On December 14 2011 11:29 ProfessorBadass wrote:
Spaackle aside from Zentor who's your next favourite lynch?


@ProfBA Probably for Refallen or Nisani mostly because they've been lurking and what they have posted has looked a bit scummy. Maybe evantrees, for the same reasoning.
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GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 14 2011 02:38 GMT
#823
On December 14 2011 11:36 ProfessorBadass wrote:
I also think that risk's actions are consistent with the withdrawal if indeed that was scum-driven. Scum most likely did it to deny Arctocod the protection and risk is trying his damn best to make sure that I, as another Townie target, don't get it.


What do you think of Risk's current fingerpointing at me? i would think a scum player would have tried to actually come up with a reason to vote me.
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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 14 2011 02:39 GMT
#824
On December 14 2011 11:33 ProfessorBadass wrote:
risk you haven't been reading my posts at all. I've disagreed with both Nisani and Zentor lynches.

I actually really want a risk.nuke lynch right now. As I said before him and DropBear seemed to be pushing hidden agendas during the initial election. Then risk.nuke straight up said he doesn't like Arctocod in office but didn't run himself to keep it away from Arcto. Then after the withdraw event he suddenly wants to run to keep it away from scum, completely inconsistent with his actions during the first round of elections.

He then tries to discredit me and push ideas onto me when clearly not even reading my posts (agenda for trying to smear the new election candidate).

yeah you've disagreed with them... after I stopped them. You're so full of scum agenda it's through the roof. That is all you got on me. I am playing pro town and you're trying to get me lynched for something that you're still twisting to make me look bad desipte that I have explained why. I'm running now because if I didn't want the scum plan (to elect you) to suceed.
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ProfessorBadass
Profile Joined December 2011
94 Posts
December 14 2011 02:39 GMT
#825
On December 14 2011 11:36 Spaackle wrote:
IMHO, it feels kind of like ProfBA is trying to bandwagon me. While I admit that my posts have not been very town, I don't see where I'm giving people scumreads.

Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 11:29 ProfessorBadass wrote:
Spaackle aside from Zentor who's your next favourite lynch?


@ProfBA Probably for Refallen or Nisani mostly because they've been lurking and what they have posted has looked a bit scummy. Maybe evantrees, for the same reasoning.


It comes down to the Mafia mindset. It's extremely easy for Mafia to call people Town because they know they are Town but significantly harder for Mafia to call people Mafia because they know they are not.

I really didn't like that you seemed to spend so much time on analysis then came up with two random targets and called them Townie with no scum reads.

I also really don't like that you're now saying you want a Nisani lynch when before you had declared him as Townie. Blatant contradiction when Nisani hasn't posted at all in the intervening time. The only thing that's changed is that other people are starting to build on Nisani, which is pretty damning for you.

But I think risk is bigger fish to fry right now.
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
December 14 2011 02:40 GMT
#826
Zentor, use intelligence in telling us your role.


Um, I don't want to reveal my role. It's pretty insignificant, but rest assured, it's a town role.
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Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 14 2011 02:40 GMT
#827
@Radfield I'm having a really hard time thinking that Spaackle is Mafia. I liked all of the effort he was making talking about the other players. His tone wasn't even super decisive, like he wans't saying for sure lynch someone. Although he did seem pretty against Zentor. I don't really want to vote for spaackle, I'm leaning towards just going with Arcto and getting rid of Nisani atm.
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 14 2011 02:41 GMT
#828
I think risk looks pretty town right now. I think he legitimately suspects you curu. Bad lynch in my eyes.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 14 2011 02:41 GMT
#829
On December 14 2011 11:40 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
@Radfield I'm having a really hard time thinking that Spaackle is Mafia. I liked all of the effort he was making talking about the other players. His tone wasn't even super decisive, like he wans't saying for sure lynch someone. Although he did seem pretty against Zentor. I don't really want to vote for spaackle, I'm leaning towards just going with Arcto and getting rid of Nisani atm.



If we're taking out a lurker I would prefer evantrees.
ProfessorBadass
Profile Joined December 2011
94 Posts
December 14 2011 02:41 GMT
#830
On December 14 2011 11:39 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 11:33 ProfessorBadass wrote:
risk you haven't been reading my posts at all. I've disagreed with both Nisani and Zentor lynches.

I actually really want a risk.nuke lynch right now. As I said before him and DropBear seemed to be pushing hidden agendas during the initial election. Then risk.nuke straight up said he doesn't like Arctocod in office but didn't run himself to keep it away from Arcto. Then after the withdraw event he suddenly wants to run to keep it away from scum, completely inconsistent with his actions during the first round of elections.

He then tries to discredit me and push ideas onto me when clearly not even reading my posts (agenda for trying to smear the new election candidate).

yeah you've disagreed with them... after I stopped them. You're so full of scum agenda it's through the roof. That is all you got on me. I am playing pro town and you're trying to get me lynched for something that you're still twisting to make me look bad desipte that I have explained why. I'm running now because if I didn't want the scum plan (to elect you) to suceed.


You stopped it? Is that a fucking joke? In case you haven't noticed Nisani is still the leading wagon. It'd be infinitely easy for me if I were scum to bury myself on that wagon since I have a history of policy lynching Nisani/sinani.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 14 2011 02:42 GMT
#831
No scum would ever play the way I am doing right now. Scum doesn't want to be the ones who takes action. So say I'm scum and I lynch greymist who then would be town. Next day I would have to fight for my life not to get lynched not to mention all my town cred would be gone. Tell me that is scumplay.
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Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 14 2011 02:43 GMT
#832
I've like so much about how risk has played this so far. I really liked him trying to be Pardoner even though he didn't have any choice. I really don't think mafia would try for it if they knew they didn't have a great shot at it. And it just looks too much like risk was just really trying hard to help town out. I really have no great reads here. Anychance I could get you guys to look at Zeks again?!
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Spaackle
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States153 Posts
December 14 2011 02:44 GMT
#833
@ProfBA My change to Nisani in't because of the bandwagon that's currently running him over, it was mostly because he still hasn't responded to any posts. I am currently leaning a bit toward changing to evantrees right now though, he's definitely on, but lurking. He seems to be jumping on bandwagons, which marks him as scum or an imcompetent townie. Also Radfield has posted his suspicion of evantrees.
Friendship is Magic!
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 14 2011 02:44 GMT
#834
On December 14 2011 11:41 ProfessorBadass wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 11:39 risk.nuke wrote:
On December 14 2011 11:33 ProfessorBadass wrote:
risk you haven't been reading my posts at all. I've disagreed with both Nisani and Zentor lynches.

I actually really want a risk.nuke lynch right now. As I said before him and DropBear seemed to be pushing hidden agendas during the initial election. Then risk.nuke straight up said he doesn't like Arctocod in office but didn't run himself to keep it away from Arcto. Then after the withdraw event he suddenly wants to run to keep it away from scum, completely inconsistent with his actions during the first round of elections.

He then tries to discredit me and push ideas onto me when clearly not even reading my posts (agenda for trying to smear the new election candidate).

yeah you've disagreed with them... after I stopped them. You're so full of scum agenda it's through the roof. That is all you got on me. I am playing pro town and you're trying to get me lynched for something that you're still twisting to make me look bad desipte that I have explained why. I'm running now because if I didn't want the scum plan (to elect you) to suceed.


You stopped it? Is that a fucking joke? In case you haven't noticed Nisani is still the leading wagon. It'd be infinitely easy for me if I were scum to bury myself on that wagon since I have a history of policy lynching Nisani/sinani.

lol, calling bullshit. Nisani is leading due to inactive people who went to sleep, like I should had done 3 hours ago. I was the first one to speak up against those wagons. and you're still trying to get me lynched.
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Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 14 2011 02:44 GMT
#835
I'm voting for evantrees. Anyone who wants to follow me is more than welcome.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 14 2011 02:45 GMT
#836
On December 14 2011 11:41 Radfield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 11:40 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
@Radfield I'm having a really hard time thinking that Spaackle is Mafia. I liked all of the effort he was making talking about the other players. His tone wasn't even super decisive, like he wans't saying for sure lynch someone. Although he did seem pretty against Zentor. I don't really want to vote for spaackle, I'm leaning towards just going with Arcto and getting rid of Nisani atm.



If we're taking out a lurker I would prefer evantrees.


Ok looking at evantrees. He hasn't said much and no one has really broughten him up. Let me check out his posts~
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
ProfessorBadass
Profile Joined December 2011
94 Posts
December 14 2011 02:45 GMT
#837
@Radfield

If you don't like risk consider this:
On December 14 2011 05:49 Spaackle wrote:
Nisani201:

+ Show Spoiler +
On December 13 2011 10:53 Nisani201 wrote:
Alright, I just caught up on the thread.
Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 03:08 Spaackle wrote:
For the lurkers in the thread, maybe a couple questions would get some activity:

1. What do you think of the No Pardon, No Exception rule?

2. Give your specific impressions of the campaigns so far, especially the major ones.

Remember, the more you get into the game you're playing, the more fun it is! :D

1. No Pardon should not be carried out until the very late game, where there's probably some weird scenario in which pardoning would be important. However I don't think we need to discuss that now because there are too many possibilities.

2. Radfield seems to be playing pro-town. Palmar is not taking his usual controversial stance that he normally seems to assume. This is not scummy (I even think he said somewhere that he was going to try out a new style) but at this point I trust Radfield a lot more.

##Vote: Radfield (for election)

Nisani posts after lurking for quite some time and answers the questions I gave the lurkers. He gives some short answers and then doens't post anything for two hours.

On December 13 2011 12:37 Nisani201 wrote:
Zeks is a null-read for me. Yeah the scumslips are pretty stupid but in my experiences I've found that these easy D1 lynches don't go too well.

If there are no other candidates besides him then I will definitely vote him. Otherwise I will wait for more.


Nisani says that he doesn't have a read on zeks yet, but decides to wait until more info comes up.


On December 13 2011 12:39 Nisani201 wrote:
We could also lynch a lurker (such as TotallyNotTwoPeople). Again, I want more information.


Suggests lynching a lurker, and gives TNTP as an example. Nothing really suspicious stands out here.


On December 13 2011 14:11 Nisani201 wrote:
I just read Greymist's analysis on Jistu and I think he is much more viable lynch then Zeks.

Eiii, why are you voting MyZentor? You provided no reason other than a quote.

Somewhat off topic: after playing in XLVII, this is much more relaxing... so much better not having 100 players or whatever it was that game.


Decides that Jitsu is better than Zeks based on GreYMisT' analysis, then questions Eiii about his vote.


Read: Lurking Town
Nisani hasn't been posting much since the beginning, but what he has been posting has been fairly non-contradictory and he's done a bit of motive questioning. He just seems like a regular townie withour much to say.



Two vastly contradicting opinions when the only thing that has changed is Town sentiment towards Nisani.

I'm not a fan of lynching lurkers unless they've proven time and time again they're absolutely worthless players and they all look the damn same.
On December 14 2011 11:36 Spaackle wrote:
IMHO, it feels kind of like ProfBA is trying to bandwagon me. While I admit that my posts have not been very town, I don't see where I'm giving people scumreads.

Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 11:29 ProfessorBadass wrote:
Spaackle aside from Zentor who's your next favourite lynch?


@ProfBA Probably for Refallen or Nisani mostly because they've been lurking and what they have posted has looked a bit scummy. Maybe evantrees, for the same reasoning.

Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 14 2011 02:45 GMT
#838
I doubt nisani is scum. He's not a terrible lynch, but he doesn't even look all that scummy.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 14 2011 02:46 GMT
#839
Sheth, compare this from newbie mini mafia: (also day 1/2 if i recall)

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 02 2011 09:04 risk.nuke wrote:
I'm 100% sure Toad is scum.

So to defend myself from your lines of nonsense, the wall of text where it's hard to even know who said what.

You don't like the way I post? Starting the game of with some humor, so people wont get bored and hence less active. How is that anti-town play.

The second one is just a small pressure post aswell as the followup. Nothing more. The fact that you question everything I do while other people are doing the same thing just sugest you have targeted me instead of targeting scummy behavior and that is not town play. Narrowing one person down and claiming everything he does is scummy by angle it or WIFOM is not town play, especially since you're only targeting me because I am the one trying to expose you.

Then you're questioning my activity, trying to make a case of as if it mattered why I couldn't be at a computer long enough to analyze and write. What exacly did I have thrown against me? I am looking through the thread right now and the only thing I find is things you have said which is just omgus. You're just playing on the fact that there are so many people who doesn't go back and read but just swallows what you angle to be true.


Townie priority list.

1. Establish your innocence.
2. Support the right townies.
3. Vote properly.
4. Shut down any attempts to lynch other obvious townies.
5. Shut down attempts to spread doubt or chaos in the thread.

There is no reason for a townie ever to angle anything, that is not their job because it doesn't help them to find scum, only scum ever tries to angle things.

Ofcourse if I call out that nobody is supporting the one beeing lynched then I become his suporter, I waited as long as I dared to do it because I wanted to see if anyone else would and still have time to avert the lynch.

In the second last of my quotes it's really interesting to see which part Toad choose to answer. Ignoring what was clearly the point of that post. I'll come back to this in a second.

I am telling you to explain, the only evidence you have presented on Skrammen is he is scum because I am defending him. You're responses are pretty much You are scum, I have explained YOU ARE SCUM!! What I want is something concrete, like this.

Toad is scum because he is inconsistent to what he says, changes his mind, angle things and when asked for reasoning why he thinks in a certain way he is having a hard time answering something that should be as simple as saying the truth.


to this.

On December 14 2011 10:08 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 10:07 GreYMisT wrote:
On December 14 2011 10:06 risk.nuke wrote:

Since graymist is voting for him I sure as hell don't want him to be pardoner.
Vote me for pardoner if you belive I'm town. Then atleast you'll know the role is not in scum hands.


can you explain this please?

I think you are scum.



see why we are a bit concerned?
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evantrees
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada497 Posts
December 14 2011 02:46 GMT
#840
me now interesting, dunno what I can do to help with deciding though
rejection and peace tiramisu. I think that went well.
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