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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 14 2011 04:39 GMT
#927
What happens to Risk.Nuke, now that he has edited a post?
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 14 2011 06:42 GMT
#942
Hey, if you trust me: open the package, it is a message.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 14 2011 06:52 GMT
#945
After I found that out, I retracted my vote, then put it back on Prof eventually when more info convinced me he was the better choice, that's the 3 posts after pretty much btw.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 14 2011 06:56 GMT
#947
On December 14 2011 15:55 Jitsu wrote:
Arcto, don't worry about the middle part of the PM. You need to pay most attention to the first part, and the very last sentence. The middle was required because of my role.

You're not allowed to PM...
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 14 2011 07:07 GMT
#948
Arc I feel I should be more precise. First of all, I take full responsibility for the package you just received, it is a message, nothing more, nothing less. It is unmarked, completely, and when you "open" it, you get access tot he package. You have full access to use discretion with the contents inside.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 14 2011 15:08 GMT
#991
Arctocod, are you going to do anything with the info?
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 14 2011 15:30 GMT
#995
If the Radfield correct, then the mafia did save VisceraEyes.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 14 2011 15:31 GMT
#996
*Radfield Theory
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 14 2011 17:29 GMT
#1026
Eii, I sent you a package with the same contents as Arc's, we want to know your opinion on this info.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 14 2011 22:14 GMT
#1112
On December 15 2011 05:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
Palmogism, what do you think about risk.nuke?

I'm not Arc, but I think he's suspicious for sure.

Here is the filter link for him. If you want to look for yourself.

Contradiction
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On December 13 2011 01:32 risk.nuke wrote:
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On December 13 2011 00:13 zeks wrote:
On December 13 2011 00:11 GiygaS wrote:
On December 12 2011 23:56 zeks wrote:
Note that the mayor has 2 votes, 1 being hidden

And he can decide ties

So in essence in some cases its like having 3 votes (in close voting races) so the mayor is a really really strong role compared to Pardoner.

Get Radfield to Mayor

and Arc or whoever to Pardoner

I have very little time, so I can only write a few sentences. So how the hell does a potential 3 votes beat the ability to crush all votes? It means he can save 2 scummates from being lynched!


Any pardoner who uses a pardon is to be auto-lynched the next day

No exceptions

Exception 1. mass last minute vote switch.
Questionable Exception 2. Everyone agrees on lynching someone, then occurs a last hour voteswitch when some keyplayers are unavailable.


I don't need to add that I also think hydras should sign their posts.
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On December 12 2011 22:55 Arctocod wrote:
For the record, that was syllogism. I suppose we could start tagging our posts. I do not find your answer satisfactory as speaking up first says very little about his alignment.

None of my answers for anything or just some of them?
Furthermore I never said I liked Rafields plan, I liked the fact that he said something and everyone else mutualy agrees on it which indicates it was a pro-town action ergo pro-town play. Do you belive Deus-ex and TnTp hydras will be easy to get a read of?


On December 13 2011 05:34 risk.nuke wrote:
any kind of "those present should mutualy decide if to use pardon" is idiocy and a setup like that would only favor the mafia over town.

The pardoner will have to decide himself if he is going to use it or not, and if he pardons it's at his own risk. Forbidding it is idiocy but we should warn him that by using the abillity chances are high we'll kill him.

He was the one that brought up exceptions in the first place, then immediately condemns it when the town is against my ideas.


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On December 14 2011 11:42 risk.nuke wrote:
No scum would ever play the way I am doing right now. Scum doesn't want to be the ones who takes action. So say I'm scum and I lynch greymist who then would be town. Next day I would have to fight for my life not to get lynched not to mention all my town cred would be gone. Tell me that is scumplay.

Complete WIFOM here. You could still very easily be scum.

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He has also been going on Greymist extensively with nothing but "instinct" to guide him. His play is chaotic and tries to illicit fear in a lot of townies, especially in the beginning where he was just throwing FoSes with literally no proof.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 14 2011 23:11 GMT
#1125
At VE, thanks man. Ive been reading a bunch of games to get better. SNMMII is something I cringe at when looking at it.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 14 2011 23:37 GMT
#1131
Risk, you're kind of sidestepping my points...
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 14 2011 23:41 GMT
#1132
Also, just because Zentor brought it up: I was the first one to place serious concerns on Risk with evidence.

On December 14 2011 03:31 GiygaS wrote:
So first of all I'm confused on how a lynch on graymist would reveal info on me :/ You didn't really explain that at all risk.

So the evidence against me is that I'm only speaking fluff and because I FoSed Dropbear...

First of all @Dropbear, I FoSed you because of other people's evidence as well which I did put in that little compilation, I was just mentionning that one of our leading scumhunters had already mentionned you early in the thread, you know adding some info that may have been forgotten. Just because you've now voted for me doesn't mean I'm dropping my FoS on you BTW.

Next people(or Dropbear, as other people are saying some of my posts are sort of useful), are saying my posts are fluff. I disagree. My post was meant as a clarification on the things about Pardoner and Mayor so that we could move on. If you look in to the context and don't just filter, a lot of people were also worried about similar things at the same time (including you risk) and actually a lot of the info that I posted there was brought up as new info later on (wait mayor cant echnically vote 3 times!!!!) My talk about LaL was answering a question, where I was elaborating on my own thoughts (yeah you can lie if you're blue, but don't make petty lies like the one I had an example of). My talks about Pardoner aws actually something I wanted done, and people opposed to it, so now I've dropped it. Risk, you even brought up an idea for exceptions too. Which you then had a complete role reversal on as soon as people seem opposed to my ideas on a more specific idea (care to explain that one?) You then later stated that forbidding pardoning is stupid and should be used at that player's discretion (which is better than a current majority how?) Anyway, I'm getting off-topic:

Yo, I'm innocent.

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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 14 2011 23:54 GMT
#1136
On December 15 2011 08:49 risk.nuke wrote:
Gigyas you said I contradicted myself by dissagreeing with something you said. You wrote what I said but what did you say I can't find it.


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On December 13 2011 05:00 GiygaS wrote:
I have already stated that I would want an exception to the no pardon rule (before anyone else actually, I stated that the pardoner rule should only be used in aforementioned exceptions). I'm just thinking of a hypothetical situations that we suddenly get a really strong scum-read on somebody, and the majority of people in the thread want to lynch this new guy, but there are a lot of inactives who can't switch their vote because they are afk. Basically, we want to regulate these kind of exceptions so that we don't have no direction when these sitautions arise. This is what I want:

When the Pardoner should Pardon:
In a period of time of 30 minutes to 3 hours before the lynch, a pardoner can commence an unofficial voting session . All those active int he thread at this time will HAVE to vote either Yes or No to pardon the person in quesiton.

This keeps the pardoner power in the hands of the town, and keeps things by and large under control. If anyone has any doubts ont his subject, bring them up, and we may want to change some of the restrictions on this. If there's a stituation that this rule did not think of, I would really feel bad

On the subject of rules for elected officials: I believe mayoral candidates should declare who their hidden vote is for. The benefits simply outweigh the negatives. Sure, the mafia gets a better idea of the voting situation, but it gives the mayor far more transparency, and gives us ability to monitor and regulate these powerful roles.

On the subject of campaigns, I'm going to be voting for Radfield/Arctocod.and more specifically Arctocod. I feel he's being more transparent than Radfield, and has been raising some good points with good logic. I feel like Radfield has kind of said canned start of game sort of stuff so far, so i don't have any reason to think he's mafia, but I'm not convinced he's totally town either. Again, I'm leaning more int eh way that he's town because he brought up another very good palyer so quickly, who I would believe would be a threat to him if he was a mafia.

On to the subject of who I want to vote:
I'll be be putting my tentative lynch vote on Zeks. This will turn in to a real vote if I come back in 3 hours and no new info has really been unveilied/no info that's an easy analysis for a lynch. The points against him have been pointed out by Deus-Ex, he wanted to vote a hydra off for really no reason, other than what I can see that he's threatened by them (a mafia would be threatened!) He also dissappeared for a while, and when he returned, he just quickly answered a quesiton, and didn't either reference or defend his accusations.



There ya go.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 15 2011 00:07 GMT
#1139
But what I was saying is you proposed this system in the first place, I was just adding some specifics, and then you immediately pulled a 180 with 0 explanation on the subject.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 15 2011 00:34 GMT
#1154
Yeah, that's my bad. Arc gave me the message to send it to Eiii, we should have waited for his response to the accusations. I take full responsibilty, and should have said no. SORRY EIII
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 15 2011 00:39 GMT
#1158
I sent him a way to tell me who to kill, as I for some reason thought a basically confirmed townie meant that his judgement would be more correct than others. When he bolded Eiii after 2 line-breaks was my cue to kill him. Again guys, I'm so sorry
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 15 2011 00:40 GMT
#1161
Also @Eiii's role: Red may have a version of it in their own team.
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 15 2011 00:43 GMT
#1165
My name was in the package, do you guys want me to post the full contents?
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GiygaS
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1043 Posts
December 15 2011 00:53 GMT
#1178
For complete transparency, here is the message for Arc:

Hello, this is GiygaS. I am the radical protestor (a blue role). This message should confirm that. I am convinced you are a town player, and I was wondering your opinion on something. This message ability is a one time use, but I have one other power: a message like this one, that once activated kills the person who opened it. First of all, I know you can't pm me, so I want you to give me who to kill another way:
1) But two breaklines (enter keys) at the beginning of your next post when you see this message. This will confirm to me that you've seen the message.
2) On the person you want killed, quote him, mention him, do something related to him and make sure he is the FIRST or ONLY one to be mentioned in this post.

I hope this message confirms my innocence to you, and I hope we townies can pull off a victory.
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