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Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 22 2011 12:33 GMT
#2381
On December 22 2011 21:26 Refallen wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 20 2011 22:04 Cwave wrote:
  • jaj22 (Replaced MarserBlood) dunno
  • nyczbrandon lurker/reactive instead of proactive
  • GreYMisT Claims Medic(no counterclaim)
  • DEUS-ex-MAFIA Oldie
  • Comprissent lurkerish
  • TotallyNotTwoPeople Oldie
  • [blue]Spaackle/blue] the Politician
  • Refallen Vote error
  • Cwave vanilla town
  • zeks relaxed and pro town thinking
  • MrZentor Claims Floridian(cant confirm for town). Posts weird and scummy at times.
  • risk.nuke ADHD
  • prplhz Secret Service Agent
  • GiygaS Radical Protester
  • evantrees null
  • Arctocod the vanilla town
  • bumatlarge Mafia Godfather
  • Jitsu null
  • Radfield Pro town posting.
  • Eiii the District Attorney
  • xsksc the Private Investigator
  • Liquid`Sheth prob town
  • VisceraEyes the anarchist
  • cascades null
  • ProfessorBadass Mafia Minister of Propaganda


Thats 2 confirmed scum, 3 unconfirmed

5 dead confirmed blue and 2 alive blue(Giygas), Greymist(unless there where no doctors at the start of the game but thats a very slim chance).

1 dead confirmed town(arctocod) and 1 confirmed alive(myself) and 4 potential townies(Deus, Zeks, Radfield, Liquid'Zeth, )

That leaves jaj22, nyczbrandon, Comprissent, TotallyNotTwoPeople, Refallen, evantrees, Jitsu, cascades for 3 scum spots.

3 out of these 8 have a high potential to be scum and for now, Nyc is my prima suspect unless he puts up a good case why he shouldnt hang from a tree.







Cwave, this post interested me, especially the part about Liquid`Sheth being probably town. What made you think he was town?


He posted calm and constructive, tried to contribute and had good posts with arguments about people in the spotlight. I didn't see scum in him.
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
December 22 2011 12:34 GMT
#2382
everyone should filter sheth and his mess of posts right now
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 22 2011 12:44 GMT
#2383
^ What zeks said. While he was respectful and posted a lot, some of his arguments were not very townish, imo.
jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
December 22 2011 13:00 GMT
#2384
On December 22 2011 20:26 risk.nuke wrote:
What do you people read in from the day three vote?

I had an uncounted vote on Comprissent btw. I don't think there was a whole lot to choose between the candidates on merit so there's a limited amount of information from the vote:

1. If Cwave was scum and Cascades is scum, Cwave should have switched his vote to Comprissent as it was close. On the other hand, Cwave doesn't post anywhere near the end of the day, so he may have missed the swing.

2. Sheth voting for nycz makes Cascades look a bit cleaner, but Sheth had a regular presence near the deadline so he may have just been hoping not to need a late switch, or expecting Cascades to switch to save himself.

3. Zentor gets a small red mark for switching late between two players that flipped town. However, this secret election seems to account for the last scum power, which puts Zentor absolutely in the clear.

4. Zeks also switched from nycz to Comprissent. I suppose he could have been defending Cascades just to keep 2 KP overnight before his awesome vig-shot bus, but in our current situation that's not worth worrying about for a while, and it's meaningless unless Cascades flips red.

I haven't checked up on who failed to give reasoning for their vote yet.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 22 2011 13:04 GMT
#2385
On December 22 2011 22:00 jaj22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 20:26 risk.nuke wrote:
What do you people read in from the day three vote?

I had an uncounted vote on Comprissent btw. I don't think there was a whole lot to choose between the candidates on merit so there's a limited amount of information from the vote:

1. If Cwave was scum and Cascades is scum, Cwave should have switched his vote to Comprissent as it was close. On the other hand, Cwave doesn't post anywhere near the end of the day, so he may have missed the swing.


Yeps, im sleeping when the game day/night ends.

\o> Dutch
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
December 22 2011 13:09 GMT
#2386
Oh, I missed:

5. Refallen with a suspiciously late/low-reasoning vote on Comprissent.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 22 2011 13:14 GMT
#2387
On December 22 2011 22:09 jaj22 wrote:
Oh, I missed:

5. Refallen with a suspiciously late/low-reasoning vote on Comprissent.


Again, end of day/night falls at a very inconvenient time for people living here in Singapore. I literally have to wake up at 9am and immediately catch up on the thread, and then start voting for someone. In this case, I just followed up on deus-ex's suggestion to choose among three candidates, when I didn't think cascades was scum.
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 22 2011 13:39 GMT
#2388
On December 22 2011 22:00 jaj22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 20:26 risk.nuke wrote:
What do you people read in from the day three vote?

I had an uncounted vote on Comprissent btw. I don't think there was a whole lot to choose between the candidates on merit so there's a limited amount of information from the vote:

1. If Cwave was scum and Cascades is scum, Cwave should have switched his vote to Comprissent as it was close. On the other hand, Cwave doesn't post anywhere near the end of the day, so he may have missed the swing.


And i didnt switch to Cascades as i believed Nyc had a higher potential to be scum.
Turned out he was just... not usefull & active.
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 22 2011 13:43 GMT
#2389
I fully agree with zeks at this point.

His voting list is good, and he should definitely be intelligence officer. Additionally it makes sense for me to be postmaster general, as then the two of us can co-ordinate our roles.

On December 22 2011 14:25 GreYMisT wrote:
Radfield, Did you use your first medic shot?


I actually messed up and went out drinking, then came home to find that the PM I thought I sent to Kita was not actually sent. I had planned on protecting you though Greymist, so it's all good anyways. I still have two protections left.

I will be gone almost all today, and much of tomorrow unfortunately.

I still have a slight town read on cascades, so would prefer to not lynch him today, but I would not be particularly sad if he was lynched.

I am still suspicious of both Refallen and Cwave, but both have little things that make me think they are town. I would not be at all against lynching either one.

The Marserblood replacement should be looked into, and possibly lynched depending on what he has actually done....

Jitsu I'm unsure of, as I haven't read his filter in quite some time.

In fact, I need to reread all these filters to get a real good picture of who to lynch, but I simply won't have time over the next two days. I'm happy to defer to who you guys think is the best lynch between those 4(5).

In relative order of scumminess:

Scummy
Cwave
Refallen
Cascades
Marserblood(jaj)
Jitsu

Prob Town
TnTP
risk.nuke
dues-ex

Town
Zentor
Greymist
Zeks
Cwave
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands313 Posts
December 22 2011 13:51 GMT
#2390
On December 22 2011 22:43 Radfield wrote:
I fully agree with zeks at this point.

His voting list is good, and he should definitely be intelligence officer. Additionally it makes sense for me to be postmaster general, as then the two of us can co-ordinate our roles.

Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 14:25 GreYMisT wrote:
Radfield, Did you use your first medic shot?


I actually messed up and went out drinking, then came home to find that the PM I thought I sent to Kita was not actually sent. I had planned on protecting you though Greymist, so it's all good anyways. I still have two protections left.

I will be gone almost all today, and much of tomorrow unfortunately.

I still have a slight town read on cascades, so would prefer to not lynch him today, but I would not be particularly sad if he was lynched.

I am still suspicious of both Refallen and Cwave, but both have little things that make me think they are town. I would not be at all against lynching either one.

The Marserblood replacement should be looked into, and possibly lynched depending on what he has actually done....

Jitsu I'm unsure of, as I haven't read his filter in quite some time.

In fact, I need to reread all these filters to get a real good picture of who to lynch, but I simply won't have time over the next two days. I'm happy to defer to who you guys think is the best lynch between those 4(5).

In relative order of scumminess:

Scummy
Cwave
Refallen
Cascades
Marserblood(jaj)
Jitsu

Prob Town
TnTP
risk.nuke
dues-ex

Town
Zentor
Greymist
Zeks


You list me as scummy but then give a hint at me having town hints. Nowhere do you post anything constructive to support this....
To repeat, im vanilla town and it's a mistake to lynch me. Provide a case for me being town/mafia or focus on something actually usefull. If you can't, dont be so useless with making mediocre posts.

Also selecting you for an office job when you can't even execute your given role(medic......) in the first place does not computee. More so when you allready state you are gonna be afk for this day cycle.
I've learned so much from my mistakes. I'm thinking of making a few more.
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 22 2011 13:54 GMT
#2391
Radfield, tell me why you think you're scummy and I'll try to address those points.
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
December 22 2011 14:04 GMT
#2392
On December 22 2011 13:08 zeks wrote:
Sorry for the triple post, but I imagine the voting is to go like this today for election:

1. jaj22 - Radfield
6. TotallyNotTwoPeople - Radfield
8. Refallen - Radfield
9. Cwave - Radfield
10. zeks - Radfield
12. risk.nuke - Radfield
18. Jitsu - Radfield
24. cascades - Zeks

3. GreYMisT - Zeks
4. DEUS-ex-MAFIA - Zeks
11. MrZentor - Zeks
19. Radfield x2 - Zeks


I'm pretty sure this way it'll be fool proof for the 2 scum to try to influence election. If everyone could review this and tell me what you think that would be great thanks. Going to sign off for the night if nothing comes up



I have fixed the list. Thanks for letting me know Comprissent was dead - I was going by the player list on page 1.

Nothing much has changed, cascades will now vote for Radfield, and I forgot about Radfield's 2nd vote, it will also go to me.
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
December 22 2011 14:04 GMT
#2393
On December 22 2011 23:04 zeks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 13:08 zeks wrote:
Sorry for the triple post, but I imagine the voting is to go like this today for election:

1. jaj22 - Radfield
6. TotallyNotTwoPeople - Radfield
8. Refallen - Radfield
9. Cwave - Radfield
10. zeks - Radfield
12. risk.nuke - Radfield
18. Jitsu - Radfield
24. cascades - Radfield

3. GreYMisT - Zeks
4. DEUS-ex-MAFIA - Zeks
11. MrZentor - Zeks
19. Radfield x2 - Zeks


I'm pretty sure this way it'll be fool proof for the 2 scum to try to influence election. If everyone could review this and tell me what you think that would be great thanks. Going to sign off for the night if nothing comes up



I have fixed the list. Thanks for letting me know Comprissent was dead - I was going by the player list on page 1.

Nothing much has changed, cascades will now vote for Radfield, and I forgot about Radfield's 2nd vote, it will also go to me.


EBWOP
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 22 2011 14:14 GMT
#2394
Radfield I don't want you to be Post General and I absolutely don't wan't you to be cordinating with Intelligence officer because you and TnTp are the two people I think have all to much taken-for-granted towncred without support for it.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
December 22 2011 14:33 GMT
#2395
On December 22 2011 23:14 risk.nuke wrote:
Radfield I don't want you to be Post General and I absolutely don't wan't you to be cordinating with Intelligence officer because you and TnTp are the two people I think have all to much taken-for-granted towncred without support for it.


Explain why you are a better choice and why you would choose DEUS-ex-MAFIA over the intelligence officer or GreyMist

Also what do you have to say about GreyMist's medic claim? You were at his throat the whole game

Why are you asking for my role when I am clearly WIFOMing?
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
December 22 2011 14:35 GMT
#2396
On December 22 2011 16:28 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
radfield wasnt visited


Sheth would still be able to use roleblock right? Who got roleblocked
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
December 22 2011 14:38 GMT
#2397
@Refallen: In that case, I strongly recommend that in future that you try to get a vote in during the previous (real) day, or at the very least, indicate your preferred lynch candidates. For today we can only do the latter.

Looks like even Radfield is taking his own towncred for granted today, although it wouldn't surprise me if his botched medic claim is fictional. Zentor seems like a good choice for election now that he's 100% confirmed, except that he's dangerously close to a modkill, so unless he shows up soon I don't see better candidates than Radfield/Zeks. I have a pretty strong town read on risk.nuke but I suspect too many people disagree.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
December 22 2011 14:54 GMT
#2398
On December 22 2011 23:33 zeks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2011 23:14 risk.nuke wrote:
Radfield I don't want you to be Post General and I absolutely don't wan't you to be cordinating with Intelligence officer because you and TnTp are the two people I think have all to much taken-for-granted towncred without support for it.


Explain why you are a better choice and why you would choose DEUS-ex-MAFIA over the intelligence officer or GreyMist

Also what do you have to say about GreyMist's medic claim? You were at his throat the whole game

Why are you asking for my role when I am clearly WIFOMing?

I'm asking about your role because I am not sure about you. Blues doesn't win the game. So answer my question.

I'm choosing Deus over IO because blues doesn't win the game for us and because nobody knows what IO is and most often it's just as good the IO decideds what to do for himself to assure scum won't know. I want to discuss privatly with Dues without scum ears and I think that will be very beneficial. Alot more then having radfield controlling the IO or choosing two people who doesn't realise how damn good this role is and won't be able to use it to full extent.
Also me and Dues are green so we would be spreading out the people mafia will want to hit.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 22 2011 14:57 GMT
#2399
On December 22 2011 23:38 jaj22 wrote:
@Refallen: In that case, I strongly recommend that in future that you try to get a vote in during the previous (real) day, or at the very least, indicate your preferred lynch candidates. For today we can only do the latter.

Looks like even Radfield is taking his own towncred for granted today, although it wouldn't surprise me if his botched medic claim is fictional. Zentor seems like a good choice for election now that he's 100% confirmed, except that he's dangerously close to a modkill, so unless he shows up soon I don't see better candidates than Radfield/Zeks. I have a pretty strong town read on risk.nuke but I suspect too many people disagree.


I agree that it's mostly my fault, and I'll try to do better.

And yes, as I said earlier, I feel like we should be electing one of our confirmed townies instead of Radfield.

As for my preferred lynch candidates at the moment, I don't have any. But Radfield's town-iness has taken a hit in my eyes after the last few posts, especially with how he's, as you said, taking town for granted.

Obviously, cascades, who was a town read for me yesterday, also had his town-iness take a hit because of how Sheth was defending him and how Sheth flipped red. I still am far from sure that he is mafia, but if I had to pick a lynch today, I would choose to lynch him bar some more defense from him.

I think Cwave and risk.nuke are town.

Also, lastly, I've been trying to work my head around why evantrees died last night. Surely mafia had a better target, especially since evantrees already used his one-time power? People who were much more active?
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 22 2011 15:02 GMT
#2400
EBWOP:

Sorry, not Cwave, meant to type Jitsu.
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