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Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 20 2011 21:43 GMT
#2201
On December 21 2011 06:36 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
okay, who do we lynch?

1. Cascades
2. nyczbrandon
3. Comprissent

i favor the lynchcandidates in this order.


I would say

Comprissent
Cascades
nyczbrandon

But I am ok with a cascades lynch.
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 20 2011 21:45 GMT
#2202
On December 21 2011 06:10 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
CAN YOU PLEASE DO WHAT I TELL YOU TO DO?

Guys! This game is basically over. If someone is on my redlist with a bluerole: CLAIM.
If someone has a similar role as the people on my bolded green-list: CLAIM.

And Vote for me in the election thread and Cascades in the lynchthread!!!


My role is vanille townie
zeks
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Canada1068 Posts
December 20 2011 21:47 GMT
#2203
On December 21 2011 06:45 nyczbrandon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 06:10 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
CAN YOU PLEASE DO WHAT I TELL YOU TO DO?

Guys! This game is basically over. If someone is on my redlist with a bluerole: CLAIM.
If someone has a similar role as the people on my bolded green-list: CLAIM.

And Vote for me in the election thread and Cascades in the lynchthread!!!


My role is vanille townie


Why'd you claim you're on his red list but you're green! loooool
"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I-- I took the one less traveled by, And that has made all the difference."
DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 20 2011 21:48 GMT
#2204
On December 21 2011 06:47 zeks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2011 06:45 nyczbrandon wrote:
On December 21 2011 06:10 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
CAN YOU PLEASE DO WHAT I TELL YOU TO DO?

Guys! This game is basically over. If someone is on my redlist with a bluerole: CLAIM.
If someone has a similar role as the people on my bolded green-list: CLAIM.

And Vote for me in the election thread and Cascades in the lynchthread!!!


My role is vanille townie


Why'd you claim you're on his red list but you're green! loooool


:-D

well, zeks could you switch on me in the electionthread? sheth and Greymist you, too please.
nyczbrandon
Profile Joined January 2011
United States124 Posts
December 20 2011 21:48 GMT
#2205
On December 21 2011 06:04 DEUS-ex-MAFIA wrote:
Okay, time for a short summary:

1. Cascades is my scumread number 1 followed by
2. MarserBlood now jaj22
3. nyczbrandon
_____

I think I saw some reasonable town behaviour from every other player in this game.
Especially:

Myself
10. zeks was the first player who pointed out that Curu is scummy because he lied/was lazy. That would be an extremely strange move towards his veteran scumbuddy, if he were in fact scum.
14. GiygaS see Actros filter and his blue role etc. if noone else can perform this he's town
19. Radfield obviously
15. evantrees unlikely that there are two of this kind in the scumteam
3. GreYMisT medic without counterclaim
11. MrZentor dayextenstion role... pretty protown. If noone else can perform this he's likely town
6. TotallyNotTwoPeople attacked curu very early. townfeeling, no real evidence
18. Jitsu town-feeling no real evidence
12. risk.nuke town-feeling no real evidence
22. Liquid`Sheth town-feeling no real evidence

Null:
8. Refallen
5. Comprissent
9. Cwave
these guys just look a little bit better than the three suspects above.

_______

tonights plan:
I get elected as PO, I watch Radfield for sure to save him
Greymist gets elected as Prankster. he's almost confirmed.


was looking at this list, i am red here
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 20 2011 21:53 GMT
#2206
Alright just read all of cascade's posts in detail and I have some things to share.

Look over his filter, notice how he is continuoulsy trying to discredit arcto and radfield. later he focuses just on arcto. In fact, almost every single one of his posts have been about the vets in this game. Werid huh?

Next lets talk about his relations with the goddamned batman Bumatlarge and Curu.

Radfield: Has been active and has good content in posts, being helpful. Based on posts alone, I think he is most likely of all the vets to be townie.
Arc: Very good activity. Has to elaborate and give reasoning for most posts though. "Cos I say so" doesn't cut it.
Deus: He used to post simple one-liners. That doesn't help us much. He has put in more effort in his posts since then though.
ProfBad: Bursts of activity. While he was here, he was active in helping find scum. Needs to be more involved though so that we can get something done.
Dropbear/bumatlarge: Bad activity. Only came out to respond when accused. That would be really suspicious if it wasn't for the fact he got replaced, so there's somewhat a reason for that activity. Neverthless, I will be watching his replacement closely.


Notice in particular his comments directed towards ProfBad and Bum. notice how by saying what he is, he isnt trying to start a lynch train and nothing is really accusitory. However by saying things like "needs to get more involved so we can get some something done" and "watching his replacement closely" he sets himself up to bus them later if need be. It also serves to provide alternate reasoning, to perhaps save them from a lynch later on.

Finally, during the time period when i was up for lynch, He posts this:

On December 20 2011 20:42 cascades wrote:
As a matter of principle, I don't like Greymist's defence. He said that he is not remaining tight lipped, but I don't see him contributing anything new for town - he's just repeating his previous scumtells. Evantrees and I have already posted a refutation, so I suggest you guys go look at that instead of trying to jump on an invalid bandwagon.

This is not important in light of his roleclaim though.
If you are Medic ROLECLAIM NOW. Mafia cannot afford to trade 1 for 1 and lose a KP.

This game is an easy town victory at this point. All town needs to do is to play safe.

Barring any other counterclaims, vote Greymist for PC instead. PC is immune to night actions and cannot be roleblocked. Hence we get the use of Greymist medic powers. With this, we even have the option to WIFOM mafia, but again, we don't need to.

It doesn't matter that Greymist is PC instead. He watches Radfield. He doesn't do it he gets lynched next day.


Even though this post itself would not be suspicious the fact that he did not vote for me, and yet still said that my defense was not convincing is. If my defense was bad, as he kept claiming, why not vote for me? oh right, so he could say near the end of the day "guys i think grey is town" and gain towncred.


In conclusion I am fine with either Cascades or nycz today.
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Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 20 2011 21:54 GMT
#2207
So I filtered Nycz as he was my choice for who to lynch tonight.

I don't know how to do links to individual posts perhaps someone could explain that as a side point!

Nycz is a first time player of Mafia, he doesn't want to be a sheep and wants to have his own oppinion. He then wanted to vote against either myself or MrZentor day1. He then changed his mind, and was curious why Nisani wasn't mod killed (Nisani was then made into VE our epic Godfather killer). Just to stop there, on day 1 its a bit weird to wonder why someone wasn't mod killed. I did it recently to so, mostly because our top mafia picks are those who would be modkilled I believe! So I really don't see any reason behind him saying it. Just seems scummy.

He did not like bumatlarge saying "who are you?" which is a point for him being town I believe. He bandwagoned spaackle a small point against him. He calls himself a lurker. Then on day 1 he is for lynching Cascades and safe with not lynching Comprissent. Just an interesting point based on what he flips if we lynch him. (I'd say if hes town, we lynch Cascades and if not Comprissent, just an idea!)

He then says something a long the lines that he is doing the bare minimum possible. I really don't like that line.

VE had this read on him.

On December 16 2011 08:37 nyczbrandon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2011 08:22 VisceraEyes wrote:
Going over the filters, I've coded things by how I perceive them…black for null, red for scummy and green for townie. If I'm mistaken (like, if something is really null that I've called scummy), let me know…workin' on my GAME bro!

MarserBlood
Opening post doesn't say much. Basically says "I don't know who to elect or lynch"
Decides who to elect, not sure who to lynch.
Zeks isolation analysis. Cites that he chose Zeks because he was "one of the suspicious persons," but finds his contributions satisfactory and chooses to vote MrZentor because of "a scummy post" he made, and lack of "obvious scum" to vote. Also states aversion to lynching lurkers for obvious reasons (no info, probably town, etc.)
Here and here he states suspicion that Mafia was behind the removal of Palmogism from the electoral running. Also "congratulates the doc" in dismaying over the loss of a blue. But taken with wanting to talk about something at night, I still get a null read from these posts.
Here I can't tell if he's trying to appear pro-town or trying to maintain a productive atmosphere in town, so again…null.
Soft-defends Radfield from an attack by risk.nuke.

Verdict: Null leaning Town.

nyczbrandon
Notes his inexperience. You only get one freebie guy.
Short response to Spaackle saying he should think for himself.
Uh oh… another appeal to his newbishness… He also comments on Zeks, saying he was suspicious before, but because he called out Sheth for a perceived contradiction….what? He's not suspicious anymore? He doesn't say. But he does say that he'll vote for MrZentor or Sheth. Sheth I assume for the 'contradiction', and Zentor because he "seems to change votes a lot." I don't know, it seems to me like a raw-newbie wouldn't consider indecision as a scum-tell. Possibly help from outside sources? His scum-buddies? I DON'T KNOW BRO!
Here is something interesting. A raw-newbie asking about a modkill for not voting. I mean, okay, it's a valid question from anyone who read the OP…but this seems to indicate that he did NOT read the OP. Curiouser and curiouser.

Verdict: Newb-Scum Lean


The reason i didn't vote for Sheth or Zentor because seemed like majority of people were bandwagoning Spaackle so I did as well. It was like last minute so I wasn't sure what to do. Also I responded to Zentor when he asked me why I said he was changing his votes a lot. I thought I saw him doing this and apoligized to him for wrongfully doubting him.

The reason I asked for modkill, because I think I remember Sheth posting that Nisani was the only person to not have voted for lynch.


In the end I think hes just a new player who ended up getting mafia with some other new players and ProfBA. I do think he is very likely scum and would be happy to vote him off first and use his flip on choosing between the others we'd like to vote off. It gives us another piece to the puzzle and I think were in good shape.
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 20 2011 21:54 GMT
#2208
Also, some people still have to vote me in the election thread so i get pardoner, preferably about 3.
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
December 20 2011 21:55 GMT
#2209
On December 21 2011 06:54 GreYMisT wrote:
Also, some people still have to vote me in the election thread so i get pardoner, preferably about 3.


by pardoner i mean the runner up position...
"life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery" / Join TL Mafia! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 20 2011 21:56 GMT
#2210
As a side point, I'm obviously ok any of the 3 Deus listed this is just my choice :D!
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 20 2011 21:56 GMT
#2211
To tell the truth that last quote greymist makes me lean more town on cascades.

In fact I've been leaning town on cascades all game, but I'm really not sure. I know I would much prefer lynching comprissent.
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 20 2011 21:56 GMT
#2212
I'll switch to you Grey, and Deus I'd switched to you a bit before I read that! Will just switch to Grey so he can get the second job and switch back if needed.
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 20 2011 21:58 GMT
#2213
On December 21 2011 06:54 GreYMisT wrote:
Also, some people still have to vote me in the election thread so i get pardoner, preferably about 3.



no you already have 6 votes greymist. You don't need anymore. We need deus-ex to get MORE than you, which means there aren't technically enough votes left for anyone to beat you out for second place.

17 votes

6 for grey
7 for deus
only 4 left.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 20 2011 21:58 GMT
#2214
ie, you are locked in for at least second place right now barring a massive unvote
DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 20 2011 21:59 GMT
#2215
On December 21 2011 06:56 Liquid`Sheth wrote:
I'll switch to you Grey, and Deus I'd switched to you a bit before I read that! Will just switch to Grey so he can get the second job and switch back if needed.


no, switch on me, I vote grey instead.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 20 2011 21:59 GMT
#2216
nvm, things are happening fast in the election thread. no worries though
Liquid`Sheth
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States2095 Posts
December 20 2011 21:59 GMT
#2217
Kk lol
Team LiquidUnderneath it all they were really quite nice. They just got screwed up. Mostly by stuff that wasn't entirely their fault.
DEUS-ex-MAFIA
Profile Joined December 2011
Vatican City State258 Posts
December 20 2011 22:02 GMT
#2218
Announcement:

we don't lynch nyczbrandon today!!!

You may chose between Cascades and Comprissent

I don't know why you guys do that! There is nothing favouring nyczbrandon over the other two players.
:-(
MrZentor
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1648 Posts
December 20 2011 22:06 GMT
#2219
Guys, I really don't understand why we're electing Deus as watcher. We don't know he's town, and our entire plan rests on the fact that the watcher is town. If the Watcher isn't town, we get several townies, including Radfield, killed, and allow mafia to have a good chance of winning.

I am getting really suspicious of Deus, because he keeps saying how he is the optimal choice for Watcher even though we have confirmed townies, such as Grey or me :p, who would be better suited for the position. We need the Watcher to be a confirmed townie and Deus isn't.

It's a huge mistake to elect him as Watcher.
Falling’s just like flying, except there’s a more permanent destination.
Radfield
Profile Joined September 2009
Canada2720 Posts
December 20 2011 22:16 GMT
#2220
On December 21 2011 07:06 MrZentor wrote:
Guys, I really don't understand why we're electing Deus as watcher. We don't know he's town, and our entire plan rests on the fact that the watcher is town. If the Watcher isn't town, we get several townies, including Radfield, killed, and allow mafia to have a good chance of winning.

I am getting really suspicious of Deus, because he keeps saying how he is the optimal choice for Watcher even though we have confirmed townies, such as Grey or me :p, who would be better suited for the position. We need the Watcher to be a confirmed townie and Deus isn't.

It's a huge mistake to elect him as Watcher.


No, we don't need a confirmed townie as the watcher. If I die, and he comes back with no name, or with the wrong name, he gets himself lynched. A 2 for 1 trade, or even a 1 for 1 trade is not acceptable to mafia right now.

That being said, I think deus-ex is very likely town.
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