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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On December 09 2011 11:50 Risen wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 11:44 Radfield wrote:On December 09 2011 11:42 annul wrote:
thats a wrong sequence
1. palmar plays like a complete retard day 1
2. i call him out for this shit, starting on day 1
3. day 2 comes and PALMAR, in true fashion, does the OMGUS that he does every fucking game, on me this time.
4a. i defend it as best i can. . .
4b. . . . until i realize i cant stop it, so i have to claim. So why didn't you shoot him? I also notice that nowhere in that sequence of events does Palmar play like scum. Wait what? OMGUS is such scum behavior. Forcing people to act in an irrational manner is STUPID. We should have been able to be patient and Palmar has now forced two jack's out of hiding. How the hell is that pro-town?
Wait hold on. I'm not even sure what you're referring to now. Palmar did not OMGUS annul. Annul had been voting and pushing Palmar for 36 hours before the flip, at which point Palmar accused annul of being scum. An accusation that was at that time based on new information to the thread.
Palmar did NOT force annul out into the open. Palmar built a case and pushed it.
Palmar did NOT force vaderseven into the open. Palmar applied pressure to see if vader actually had notes.
Yes they both resulted in an outted jack, but the motivation from Palmar in both cases was sound.
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rad looks bad after prplz's flip, prplhz is an easy mislynch and rad knows that. Could have been attempting to switch from annul or trying to setup another town lynch. or just wrong i guess lol.
Annul's role makes perfect sense especially with vader's matching up.
Rad how is the floridian such an obviously town role this game?
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palmar is still mafia lets switch fast!
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If you guys are town then you are retards for playing so close to a 5am (europe) deadline. I'm not gonna switch and not gonna stay up anymore.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On December 09 2011 11:54 annul wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 11:51 vaderseven wrote:
No, read my filter annul. If you cant subtlely prove you caught the problem with what I said then you are a liar. and now everyone on the red team will look at this post and my next few posts and try to find the breadcrumb. be smarter than that. lets just say it has to do with our night powers in some capacity.
On December 09 2011 11:54 vaderseven wrote:
annul is town.
Are you really serious vader. You are absolutely 100% sure that annul could not be scum?
If you are actually town annul then I have no idea what you were thinking.
On December 09 2011 11:58 redFF wrote:
rad looks bad after prplz's flip, prplhz is an easy mislynch and rad knows that. Could have been attempting to switch from annul or trying to setup another town lynch. or just wrong i guess lol.
Annul's role makes perfect sense especially with vader's matching up.
Rad how is the floridian such an obviously town role this game?
I stated several times since my case that I was warming up on prplhz.
Floridian is town because 7 votes vs 19 is overwhelming mafia favored. 6 votes vs 20 is better, but still on the mafia side of the spectrum. Not to mention floridian is neutral by definition, NOT scum favored like you are saying.
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56 minutes left in the day.
Annul leads with 9 votes.
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Annul is TOWN. Voting him gets TOWN KILLED.
Palmar is the scummiest IMO.
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Town win condition: You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated.
Mafia win condition: You win when you control majority of the voting power in the Town or when nothing can stop you from outright killing everyone.
I just took this in.
Palmar's role sounds fucking town now.
##unvote
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##unvote palmar
##vote redff
redff is teh best choice and I can accept a no lynch over him if desired but Palmar and annul are not good choices.
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On December 09 2011 11:46 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 11:40 Risen wrote:
Ok, I'm confused. Someone explain this sequence of events to me. From reading his filter, and looking at Palmar's.
Palmar accuses annul of being scum, VE accuses Palmar of being scum (shocking), annul says wtf why is everyone voting for me, Palmar gives a case on annul that isn't convincing at all, annul freaks and starts OMGUS, annul gives out his role and asks toads what to do, toads says shoot prplhz, annul shoots prplhz (I thought prplhz was scum going into d2), annul #1 lynch target in spite of being jack?
Correct me if I'm misreading things here. The case on annul is pretty solid. I recommend you reread it. I made several additional points when I voted him. Since voting Palmar(for a terrible reason) midway through Day 1, annul has done virtually nothing. Even today he promised a big fat post but then simply passed over his dayvig shot to a townie. Annul is putting in very little effort, something that is a hallmark of scum.
On December 08 2011 01:05 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 08 2011 00:58 sandroba wrote:
Palmar bro you need to stop posting reason and yell at people in all caps. It's clearly the only way it works. How about song lyrics and dramatic speeches?
It can't be all coincidence
Too many things are evident
You tell me you're an unbeliever?
Spiritualist? Well me I'm neither
Wouldn't you like to know the truth
Of what's out there to have the proof
And find out just which side you're on
Where would you end in Heaven or in Hell? Citizens of Liquidia! Today is a day to remember, because today the true colors of the residents of town will be shown. Who will dare stand up against the Mafia and make the right choice? Remember that we must each reach the conclusion on our own while working against a highly organized team of evildoers. Remember today, once night falls it is upon each individual in this town to analyze what happened here today, and more than any other day, today is the day where the lines are drawn. Today you choose a side, today you show yourself as a valuable member of town or worthless scum seeking only to spread distrust while slowly taking our lives, one by one. Every single person will be held accountable to their actions today. Every single person will be remembered for what they did here today, for good or for bad. Remember today! Palmar or annul
THIS is pro-town? You have to be fucking kidding me.
On the case itself, which I won't quote b/c it's fucking huge. Prplhz DID claim a blue role when he said "our". Did annul need to go balls deep on it? No, but Palmar is bullshitting around with this point. Palmar says there's no such thing as a blueslip, well I've never heard of it but it isn't like all the language used in this thread has been orthodox. Making up a word to describe something is scum now? K.
I'm confused by Palmar's next point (his agreement in large part with syllo). Syllo says Palmar must be a mind reader to know v7 would shoot Soap instead of Palmar. No, he doesn't, he was trolling all day 1. At that point he probably didn't give a shit if he got shot. Oh hey look, annul voted to lynch the person who was ruining any discussion all day 1 and didn't die during the night. I for one, am shocked. Oh hey look at what Palmar is advocating, annul has dropped off the map and is now lurking, he must be scum, NO ONE ELSE WOULD LURK. Oh, except for the guy we lynched d1. Glad everyone decided to ride on that bandwagon. His final point is that because annul asks why everyone is listening to Palmar, he must be scum. That isn't logical at all! Right? Right? Oh wait.
So you're telling me Palmar trolled all through day 1 in order to make it to day 2, he then proceeds to become a model citizen and shove annul out in front of everyone because he is now lurking and is a really easy target. Have I mentioned the fact that Palmar has been pressuring people to the point that they've had to reveal their roles? What idiotic shit is that? Guess what else explains v7's outburst and sudden town-cred, Palmar and v7 setting that shit up. But I'm sure that would be way too hard to do.
Onto your case Rad.
So, you're pretty much saying annul should have shot Palmar (what with Palmar being annul's best scum read). What if Palmar flips town? Not only do we lose our floridian, we lose our jack because no one is going to believe annul is town at that point. So what to do. Ask for the "most town" person to pick doesn't seem like an extremely horrible decision. Even if it was, my point still stands. What the hell about this shot makes annul scum and v7 town? They were both pressured into doing STUPID shit. So now we lynch as a punishment?
The case against annul reads to me like this. Annul voted after presenting a weak case, annul lurked for a while, annul shot a townie after being piled on by the wagon. Am I missing anything? Why are we pushing for annul so hard?
We should have him tell us his powers so we can use them tonight. Is there no one else you think is scummy? Palmar did a pretty good job convincing you it seems. Also, why were you pressuring the jacks to reveal everything about themselves? Scum knowing their powers is BAD for us.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On December 09 2011 12:06 vaderseven wrote:
Annul is TOWN. Voting him gets TOWN KILLED.
Palmar is the scummiest IMO.
Fuck it, I'm going to bed.
I'll put my vote on redFF. If someone wants to rally the troops be my guest.
I sincerely hope corrupt is scum, or we are probably at lylo tomorrow.
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On December 09 2011 12:09 vaderseven wrote:
##unvote palmar
##vote redff
redff is teh best choice and I can accept a no lynch over him if desired but Palmar and annul are not good choices.
why am i the best choice...
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On December 09 2011 12:07 vaderseven wrote:Show nested quote +Town win condition: You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated.
Mafia win condition: You win when you control majority of the voting power in the Town or when nothing can stop you from outright killing everyone. I just took this in. Palmar's role sounds fucking town now. ##unvote
thats the traditional mafia wincon...
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I dont have an awesome case on it but I feel like you are the best choice for maybe hitting scum.
awesome huh.
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No its different.
Traditional is 50% of the players.
This specifically states control the vote.
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On December 09 2011 11:57 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 11:50 Risen wrote:On December 09 2011 11:44 Radfield wrote:On December 09 2011 11:42 annul wrote:
thats a wrong sequence
1. palmar plays like a complete retard day 1
2. i call him out for this shit, starting on day 1
3. day 2 comes and PALMAR, in true fashion, does the OMGUS that he does every fucking game, on me this time.
4a. i defend it as best i can. . .
4b. . . . until i realize i cant stop it, so i have to claim. So why didn't you shoot him? I also notice that nowhere in that sequence of events does Palmar play like scum. Wait what? OMGUS is such scum behavior. Forcing people to act in an irrational manner is STUPID. We should have been able to be patient and Palmar has now forced two jack's out of hiding. How the hell is that pro-town? Wait hold on. I'm not even sure what you're referring to now. Palmar did not OMGUS annul. Annul had been voting and pushing Palmar for 36 hours before the flip, at which point Palmar accused annul of being scum. An accusation that was at that time based on new information to the thread. Palmar did NOT force annul out into the open. Palmar built a case and pushed it. Palmar did NOT force vaderseven into the open. Palmar applied pressure to see if vader actually had notes. Yes they both resulted in an outted jack, but the motivation from Palmar in both cases was sound.
Here is my problem with Palmar's play. Why is he pushing so hard for this on day1 and day2? He's expecting people to expect his actions to be in town's best interest. So when he pressures two jacks out into the open and gets two townies shot, oh well damn, I was playing like an idiot to force them to react to me. How about you just play smart, not force stupid bullshit out of people. Why don't you NOT troll the fuck out of everyone day 1 making yourself suspicious. Why not build yourself up as credible. His actions mean to me that he is either scum, or he's assuming everyone is an idiot that needs to be forced into action.
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On December 09 2011 12:15 redFF wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 12:07 vaderseven wrote:Town win condition: You win when all threats to the Town are eliminated.
Mafia win condition: You win when you control majority of the voting power in the Town or when nothing can stop you from outright killing everyone. I just took this in. Palmar's role sounds fucking town now. ##unvote thats the traditional mafia wincon...
palmar's role is scummy to null, there's no way it's a likely town role, as wherever i've seen it it's been scum. it makes so much more fucking sense as a scum role than a town role. AN ANONYMOUS VOTE. IF IT WAS TOWN WHY NOT JUST A DOUBLE VOTE. I CANT BELIVE YOU FUCKS AREN'T ACTUALLY LYNCHING PALMAR.
ANNUL YOU'RE TERRIBLE WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST HAVE THE BALLS TO SHOOT PALMAR IN THE FACE BLARRRRHRHRHRHHRHRHRHRHRR
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Look it up, annon vote like that is an either or role.
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On December 09 2011 12:16 vaderseven wrote:
No its different.
Traditional is 50% of the players.
This specifically states control the vote.
so how does that make palmar's role town exactly??? doesn't it also make it scummy, as it helps further scum's wincon if he's scum???
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Because the win condition specifically is about gaining control of the vote.
Honestly I feel BETTER about a no lynch but you are the one I feel best if we lynch.
First time I have ever said that EVER.
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