EPTTL Mafia XLVIII - Page 59
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
redFF is acting troll-y. I don't like that at all, especially all this "Palmar is good to lynch/ is bad to lynch/ I voted Hier but I preferred Palmar" bullshit. At least explain your reasons and thought process when asked to. and I don't believe Lanaia is scum just out of that "insta-delurk". It's indeed suspicious, but stuff happens and it could have been a coincidence; this doesn't mean she is clean, I'll keep an eye on her for anything suspicious. So far my reads aren't consolidated, mostly because I fail to make notes about my feelings when reading. *sigh* slow night is slow, if anyone want my opinion on any subject feel free to ask -_-' | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
[B] So far my reads aren't consolidated, mostly because I fail to make notes about my feelings when reading. *sigh* slow night is slow, if anyone want my opinion on any subject feel free to ask -_-' What are your thoughts on VisceraEyes so far? Especially given his most recent activity? | ||
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Lanaia
Canada1142 Posts
Red, can you please reply to what I asked you in my last post? I don't really like being told I'm not contributing and then when I try to, I'm not replied to. Zephirdd, what do you think we can do about the lurkers? Anything we can use as a pester ball to lure them out of hiding? Actually, there aren't even that many. What do you think about Radfield's play? | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On December 07 2011 10:08 Lanaia wrote: Zephirdd, what do you think we can do about the lurkers? Anything we can use as a pester ball to lure them out of hiding? Actually, there aren't even that many. What do you think about Radfield's play? Mind if I jump in there and give my 2cents? I think you got to differentiate between day- and night-lurkers. This whole "we should not post that much at night" is quite commong and there's just so many people who are not contributing or barely contributing at all. As long as they start posting the next day again I'm fine with it although I share opinions with VisceraEyes about talking at night. He is kind of overdoing it. Sure some people are answering him but most stuff comes from him and as I see it I won't get much out of people the way he's doing it right now. If you want to discuss about something by all means I'm hear for another hour or so to talk :p | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
On December 07 2011 10:19 VisceraEyes wrote: Define 'overdoing it' Toads. If by overdoing it you mean 'airing all of my thoughts completely before day breaks' then yeah, guilty as charged. OFF WITH YOUR HEAD. + Show Spoiler + Not a scum claim if you end up dead. + Show Spoiler + Or is it?+ Show Spoiler + IT IS A MYSTERY!!!! How long until the day starts? | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On December 07 2011 10:19 VisceraEyes wrote: Define 'overdoing it' Toads. If by overdoing it you mean 'airing all of my thoughts completely before day breaks' then yeah, guilty as charged. Well I just found out if people don't want to talk they're not going to talk no matter how much you try to get them involved. Sure you can try and if you would not have tried I would have at some point, but after several points I thought that people just don't want to talk a lot at night and neither of us is able to change that. | ||
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Lanaia
Canada1142 Posts
On December 07 2011 10:15 Toadesstern wrote: Mind if I jump in there and give my 2cents? I think you got to differentiate between day- and night-lurkers. This whole "we should not post that much at night" is quite commong and there's just so many people who are not contributing or barely contributing at all. As long as they start posting the next day again I'm fine with it although I share opinions with VisceraEyes about talking at night. He is kind of overdoing it. Sure some people are answering him but most stuff comes from him and as I see it I won't get much out of people the way he's doing it right now. If you want to discuss about something by all means I'm hear for another hour or so to talk :p I was definitely referring to day. I personally don't like to post at night but I'm getting more used to it. I guess you guys are right in regards to it giving us more time to do stuff because the days here aren't three weeks long (I'm looking at you, MS). I'm just afraid of airing too much to the mafia, I think. I am completely paranoid, though. And oh my god, spoilers inside spoilers are annoying as hell. Day starts in about 2.5 hours I believe. | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
On December 07 2011 10:00 Toadesstern wrote: What are your thoughts on VisceraEyes so far? Especially given his most recent activity? Before I had just skimmed through his posts, as he posts mostly when I'm offline, but from rereading his filter I feel he is town. He has put his thoughts on the thread and nothing on his posts feel wrong or out of place. He is fine. Zephirdd, what do you think we can do about the lurkers? Anything we can use as a pester ball to lure them out of hiding? Actually, there aren't even that many. Threaten them when they are not contributing, and watch their reactions. If they fail to contribute for a long time(ex. the end of the daycycle) then lynch them when lacking a better target. A lurker lynched isn't bad when you are lacking options(example: this game's day 1). Any possibly night-time vigilantes could shot the lurkers that also fail to contribute; but all this is just common sense for any game really. There aren't many lurkers on this game; I'd say the lurkers(or players with little contribution) are hyshes, sandroba and Corrupt, Jackal58, Erandorr(claiming sickness), yourself and kingjames01(who seemed to have switched to active by the end of the day when it hardly mattered). In a 25 player game with 2 lurkers dead(Soap and Hier did fell in this category), I guess this is actually a decent(and bad) amount of lurkers. Just for the record, I consider a "lurker" someone with little to no contribution and/or posting activity. What do you think about Radfield's play? Radfield has been extremely active, no doubt about that. He also contributed to a good atmosphere early on, asking questions and making this town a good place to be. However, something feels off, and I can't say what. His play is town-oriented, and I'll give him a green card for that; But for an experienced scum, I'd say it isn't that hard to play like he did and stay on a good position like he is, but it's not like it would be wrong to play like him as town either. So I'm null-to-green on him. | ||
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Mattchew
United States5684 Posts
And I am getting the strange feelings about radfield as well. He just seems likes he is going through the normal town motions to throw suspicion | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
I was more commenting on how bad the wagon was than whether palmar was town or not. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On December 07 2011 10:38 redFF wrote: i dunno why i thought it was bad at that point, probably because of all the random people putting their votes on him with shitty/no reasoning. I was more commenting on how bad the wagon was than whether palmar was town or not. All right! Jeez, if I'm gonna have to drag every little thing out of you, just let me know.  So is it fair to assume that at the time, your suspicion of Palmar was still 'there'..as in, you were still AS suspicious of him as you were when you placed your vote on him? | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
On December 07 2011 10:37 Mattchew wrote: zeph feelings on red? And I am getting the strange feelings about radfield as well. He just seems likes he is going through the normal town motions to throw suspicion Still on Radfield, I feel that way too but the thing is: if he isn't scum, he is doing a great job. If he is scum, he is playing really well. Should we come to that, Radfield should be our lowest priority in anything. redFF gives me an odd feeling. He is acting retarded, as if he was trying to be so annoying that people end up ignoring him(see Serejai on XLVII). Any and every all-caps post from him were retarded, and he seems lazy when writing. However, his last response is at very least decent. I'm completely null on him. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
Vaderseven is a JOAT Drazerk is an unblockable medic This means that scum almost assuredly have a roleblocker, which means v7 is almost assuredly going to get roleblocked tonight. Vader, I assume you can self protect and you certainly should tonight. One of two things will happen, you will get roleblocked(and not shot), or you will get shot(and not roleblocked). Either way it makes sense to use your self-protect, assuming that you don't lose it if you are roleblocked. For this reason, it is imperative that any Watcher we have target vaderseven. The chances of him getting visited by mafia is almost 100%. Next question: Should Drazerk be protecting v7? This one I don't know the answer to, but I think it makes sense to leave v7 to the watcher(if we have one) and instead focus on protecting townies likely to die. Also, I still see plenty of doubt regarding v7's alignment, so maybe mafia will see the optimal move as roleblock but don't kill. It leaves him alive to draw suspicion, and makes his JOAT claim seem bunk. Chances of death tonight: Toadesstern: Extremely high. He's very obviously green at this point, contributing, and not high profile enough to draw medic protection. I would shoot him if I was scum. Radfield: Very high Syllogism: Very high. Both myself and syllo are active and playing decently hard this game. Definite threat to mafia and worth a shot. Drazerk: Pretty good assuming he is town. His play is very null for me so far, but simply by virtue of his claim he is an obvious threat to mafia. However, mafia killing him cleans up the thread a bit. Annul: Decent. He is active and aggressive, and painting himself pretty green. That being said his style is not particularly conducive to a great town atmosphere, so killing him is not super ideal for mafia. Palmar: Low. Despite the fact that Palmar is extremely solid as town, killing him right now brings a lot of clarity into the thread, and allows the players who think he is scummy to galvanize their attention elsewhere. Sandroba Extremely low. Mafia killing him is a blessing for town right now, as his play is putting him as a huge question mark and day 2 lynch target. If you are a medic, I highly suggest you consider protecting Toad, myself, syllo or drazerk(maybe annul). Drazerk, I think you should consider those players as well as v7. The chances of a framer being in this game are extremely high in my eyes. Hence I will not be making suggestions on who to investigate. + Show Spoiler + Chances of a third party are also quite high given that Incog did not give us townie numbers, and only gave us mafia numbers. That means 2 KP for scum, +1 KP for a third party. Makes perfect sense to give mafia number a bit of a boost(due to the low KP), and also makes sense to give town a floridian(due to the lower than usual town voting power(18 town vs 7 non-town at outset) However this is all just irrelevant conjecture  But it does seem to fit nicely. | ||
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Lanaia
Canada1142 Posts
WAIT WAIT WAIT... Vader's a JOAT? wtf. Where was this and why didn't I see it? | ||
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Barbiero
Brazil5259 Posts
On December 07 2011 11:06 Lanaia wrote: Just saying this so I don't get accused of instadelurking again. I have to restart my entire project because the program isn't as good as it could be and so one minor mistake screwed up literally everything. I won't be back until after day break. WAIT WAIT WAIT... Vader's a JOAT? wtf. Where was this and why didn't I see it? He never admitted to be a JOAT, but someone with my help deduced that he is one, because JOATs usually have one shot and possibly one-time other abilities, and he did say his role as called "Jack". | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
Where would you put Jackal58 and redFF on that medic protect list? Why do you think mafia would block vaderseven, do you think he might have two shots, one for day and one for night? Doesn't that seem a little over powered? | ||
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