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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
December 06 2011 22:57 GMT
#1141
On December 07 2011 07:52 vaderseven wrote:
Keep in mind I said its not a good idea to post scum hunting things in the night.

By all means scum hunt! Just post it in the morning.

That makes no sense. If you just opt to ignore any sort of wifom, you CAN benefit greatly from the opinion of the players who died and flipped green.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
December 06 2011 22:57 GMT
#1142
Keep in mind that I think you're full of shit v7 and I'll scumhunt anytime I want. :D

v7, what is the basis of your suspicion of Palmar?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
December 06 2011 23:27 GMT
#1143
redFF: Why did you start a wagon on Palmar, decide to jump off, decry the wagon, then settle for the wagon, only to jump onto Heir for the final lynch (which by the way, was ninja-style and was not reflected in-thread)?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
December 06 2011 23:31 GMT
#1144
On December 06 2011 10:24 redFF wrote:
voting hier, although the case against him is weird. someone compared hiers case against syllo this game to his case against palmar last game. The problem is that the palmar case was on day 2, so of course it would have a lot more content then the early day 1 syllo case.

w/e its better than nolynch and i guess he could be scum.


Oh nevermind, found it. I guess you're counting this as 'letting town know your intentions' and do NOT think it's a ninja-vote. I bolded it because I missed it and I wanted to make sure town didn't...but the post as I found it, those two words were NOT bold and were basically hidden among the shenannies of yesterday.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
December 06 2011 23:33 GMT
#1145
On December 07 2011 05:16 annul wrote:
okay hi people

i just got home from florida civil procedure 4.5 hour final exam. my brain hurts. i dont want to think.

someone tell me what is going on as of like 10 pm yesterday until now cuz i dont wanna bother reading


Congrats on writing your final! How do you feel it went?

A summary of major events occurring between approximately 10 pm EST and now:
  • There was a strong bandwagon forming on Hier based on nothing more than the "we need to kill SOMEONE" mentality.
  • I finally got to post my analysis on Refallen with a few more lines tacked on denouncing him and attempting to pressure mafia into using more votes.
  • Some discussion was still going on but the game was pretty silent.
  • Hier flipped Vanilla Town.
  • Drazerk claimed Roleblock Immune Medic who is forced to claim Night 1.
  • Discussion on the motivation and timeline of vaderseven shooting Soap.
  • Discussion on the veracity of Drazerk's claim.
  • Discussion on the pros/cons of talking at night.
  • Interspersed between these major events are players posting thoughts on each other.


Here are some of my thoughts before I post an in-depth analysis on specific players:

Hier flipping Vanilla Town -
On December 06 2011 14:56 kingjames01 wrote:
So... for those of you who thought that flipping Hier would give Town an advantage, what did you learn? Why don't you share your amazing revelations with the rest of us?


Discussion on the motivation and timeline of vaderseven shooting Soap -
A simple question: is it normal that the kill order be posted in the thread and not required to be in a PM to the mods?

Talking at night:
If you have something important to share with the Town then you better get it into the thread. If you die we'll have more information from your flip and posts than if you took your secrets to the grave with you.
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
December 06 2011 23:39 GMT
#1146
On December 07 2011 07:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Keep in mind that I think you're full of shit v7 and I'll scumhunt anytime I want. :D

v7, what is the basis of your suspicion of Palmar?


Pretty much what I have said over and over throughout the day yesterday.

His play was based on RNG, Lieing, and trolling and none of those things are good for the town. They create situations that are good for the scum.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
December 06 2011 23:45 GMT
#1147
On December 07 2011 08:39 vaderseven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 07:57 VisceraEyes wrote:
Keep in mind that I think you're full of shit v7 and I'll scumhunt anytime I want. :D

v7, what is the basis of your suspicion of Palmar?


Pretty much what I have said over and over throughout the day yesterday.

His play was based on RNG, Lieing, and trolling and none of those things are good for the town. They create situations that are good for the scum.


I just wanted you to say it again. So how has his play appeared SINCE his trolling phase (which is very clearly over, made evident by his posting)?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 06 2011 23:54 GMT
#1148
On December 07 2011 01:35 syllogism wrote:
There is a fine line between normal and themed games. Double voter is a standard role and from what I have seen more often town than not. The fact the vote is anonymous is just makes it a variation of it. Do you think the fact whether Flordidian is a town role or not has any relevance as to whether the came is considered themed or not? The answer is no.

I assume you don't believe drazerk's claim at all then either, because that most certainly is not a normal role.

it's more that you said it was a common role when it isn't
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 06 2011 23:56 GMT
#1149
On December 07 2011 04:27 Lanaia wrote:
Can't we all just listen to him?
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 06 2011 10:44 Incognito wrote:
Enough with the SPAM. Stop posting one liners or there will be
[image loading]


Posts like these:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 09:44 annul wrote:
On December 06 2011 08:23 supersoft wrote:
if she's a real girl, thats not a scumtell. Sorry folks. Girls contradict themselves all the time.


bahahahahah

Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 10:12 Toadesstern wrote:
ninja'ed


as well as the other one liners are unacceptable. Please consolidate your posting and keep this thread readable. Thanks!



Christ, red, talk more than one line per post. I know you do this all the goddamn time but it's annoying as all hell. I mean, it's more than just red but he's doing it the most from what I can see. A post consisting entirely of "LOL" and a quote is not something that is productive nor is it helpful to the game in any way, shape, or form. Of course, if you fuck up something in your post, I don't blame you for an EBWOP.


And a question...
Is posting your views at night really all that good for town? I mean, it kind of just paints targets (or anti-targets) everywhere, doesn't it?
At daybreak I'll reread the thread and post my scumreads. I won't be active much during the night today because I have a huge accounting project I need to get done.

this post says nothing.
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 06 2011 23:57 GMT
#1150
i switched to hier because otherwise we would have nolynched. i would've preferred palmar but that clearly wasn't happening.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
December 07 2011 00:03 GMT
#1151
But why? You never gave any indication that you thought Palmar was a better wagon other than your 'WAAAA FEAR NO LYNCH' post. In fact, you called the wagon bad. So bad that you dedicated an entire post telling town how bad it was. Let's revisit that post, shall we?

On December 06 2011 06:39 redFF wrote:
GODDAMN THIS PALMAR WAGON IS BAD


Look at it! Man, that's emphatic. Note the use of all-caps and lack of punctuation. What changed between this post and now? Has he looked more scummy to you? If so, how? If not, then why would you have 'preferred' a Palmar lynch to a Hier lynch?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
December 07 2011 00:14 GMT
#1152
i dunno i guess my reads changed
hyshes
Profile Joined December 2010
Belgium428 Posts
December 07 2011 00:18 GMT
#1153
On December 07 2011 07:55 sandroba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 23:08 syllogism wrote:
Sandroba any thoughts on Annul's and kingjames01's play so far?


Annul is playing very simillar to what he did day1 in the last game, which made me suspicious of him. However he did shape up day 2 and I was able to correctly identify him as town that game. I'll reserve judgement to tomorrow if I'm alive, if not it's up to you bastards to decide.
@Annul Can you please point me to a game where you lasted a bit as scum, I'm in a mood to read right now.

Both kingjames and risen put out a lot of effort yesterday when they already knew Hier flips was inevitable. Hier's alignment was at that point a blind guess so it's very suspicious behaviour indeed as no townie would know for sure the outcome of the lynch and any effort at that time was simply being converted into looking good and uselesly defending an innocent who was about to flip. They are both very suspicious and should be looked into with more detail.

QUOTE]On December 07 2011 02:01 hyshes wrote:

Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 07:07 sandroba wrote:
What the fuck, insta-delurk when called out. I think you got one there.


I consider sandroba the scumiest from atm. Lanaia did not insta-delurk there.. why would you say that?


This is falacy. Lanaia DID insta-delurk there, she posted 10 min after radfield posted an attack on her, while she was missing for 2 hours. Last game 2 players (greymist and matchew) did the same thing and I called them out for it and they ended up being mafia indeed. I stand by my opinion that lanaia is scum.
@Hyshes why would you blatantly lie to cast suspicion onto me?[/QUOTE]

LOL.. i wasn't lying. What did you think about coincidence? returning to the thread after 2h isn't that weird.. You are the one lying.
How does liquid slide? Liquid horns Hero after the synonym. How can Hero return beside the driver? The moving feat expenses the mortal. Will Hero pause?
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
December 07 2011 00:21 GMT
#1154
On December 07 2011 07:55 sandroba wrote:
This is falacy. Lanaia DID insta-delurk there, she posted 10 min after radfield posted an attack on her, while she was missing for 2 hours. Last game 2 players (greymist and matchew) did the same thing and I called them out for it and they ended up being mafia indeed. I stand by my opinion that lanaia is scum.


I did explain why I'd been away. I can't really post in thread or, you know, read it, while driving.
It wasn't intentional for me to "insta-delurk."
It's true that I do in fact go to school in a town other than my own because we do not have a university in my town. I stay in dorms but I didn't feel it was worth it to stay there alone all weekend when I have people I can be with back home.

On December 07 2011 08:56 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 04:27 Lanaia wrote:
Can't we all just listen to him?
+ Show Spoiler +
On December 06 2011 10:44 Incognito wrote:
Enough with the SPAM. Stop posting one liners or there will be
[image loading]


Posts like these:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 09:44 annul wrote:
On December 06 2011 08:23 supersoft wrote:
if she's a real girl, thats not a scumtell. Sorry folks. Girls contradict themselves all the time.


bahahahahah

Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 10:12 Toadesstern wrote:
ninja'ed


as well as the other one liners are unacceptable. Please consolidate your posting and keep this thread readable. Thanks!



Christ, red, talk more than one line per post. I know you do this all the goddamn time but it's annoying as all hell. I mean, it's more than just red but he's doing it the most from what I can see. A post consisting entirely of "LOL" and a quote is not something that is productive nor is it helpful to the game in any way, shape, or form. Of course, if you fuck up something in your post, I don't blame you for an EBWOP.


And a question...
Is posting your views at night really all that good for town? I mean, it kind of just paints targets (or anti-targets) everywhere, doesn't it?
At daybreak I'll reread the thread and post my scumreads. I won't be active much during the night today because I have a huge accounting project I need to get done.

this post says nothing.


Was my intent to say a lot? No. I was asking a question and I was requesting we listen to our mod. No one answered me. And in writing this post, I was attempting to explain why I'd have a lack of posting today so that I don't get bitched at.
Does it tell you anything about my alignment, though, red? Why'd you feel the need to comment on it when so many of your posts have no content whatsoever?

On December 06 2011 06:39 redFF wrote:
GODDAMN THIS PALMAR WAGON IS BAD


Correct me if I'm wrong, but you never explained why it was bad. Can you explain to all of us why it was so bad?
I'm sure we're all interested in hearing it.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
December 07 2011 00:25 GMT
#1155
On December 07 2011 09:14 redFF wrote:
i dunno i guess my reads changed


*snapsnapsnap* Deep bro. Deep.

I can absolutely see why Palmar included you on his "list of important townies to listen to because they're experienced enough not to lynch me for scummy behavior."

...
...
...

Or, you could answer my question. WHY did your reads change red? WHAT did Palmar do that made him scummy enough to be the lynch of the day, when before he was so emphatically NOT scummy enough to be the lynch of the day? WHEN did your read on Palmar change?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Refallen
Profile Joined August 2010
452 Posts
December 07 2011 00:25 GMT
#1156
[QUOTE]On December 07 2011 09:18 hyshes wrote:
[QUOTE]On December 07 2011 07:55 sandroba wrote:
[QUOTE]On December 06 2011 23:08 syllogism wrote:
Sandroba any thoughts on Annul's and kingjames01's play so far?[/QUOTE]

Annul is playing very simillar to what he did day1 in the last game, which made me suspicious of him. However he did shape up day 2 and I was able to correctly identify him as town that game. I'll reserve judgement to tomorrow if I'm alive, if not it's up to you bastards to decide.
@Annul Can you please point me to a game where you lasted a bit as scum, I'm in a mood to read right now.

Both kingjames and risen put out a lot of effort yesterday when they already knew Hier flips was inevitable. Hier's alignment was at that point a blind guess so it's very suspicious behaviour indeed as no townie would know for sure the outcome of the lynch and any effort at that time was simply being converted into looking good and uselesly defending an innocent who was about to flip. They are both very suspicious and should be looked into with more detail.

QUOTE]On December 07 2011 02:01 hyshes wrote:

[QUOTE]On December 06 2011 07:07 sandroba wrote:
What the fuck, insta-delurk when called out. I think you got one there.[/QUOTE]

I consider sandroba the scumiest from atm. Lanaia did not insta-delurk there.. why would you say that?

[QUOTE]
This is falacy. Lanaia DID insta-delurk there, she posted 10 min after radfield posted an attack on her, while she was missing for 2 hours. Last game 2 players (greymist and matchew) did the same thing and I called them out for it and they ended up being mafia indeed. I stand by my opinion that lanaia is scum.
@Hyshes why would you blatantly lie to cast suspicion onto me?[/QUOTE]

LOL.. i wasn't lying. What did you think about coincidence? returning to the thread after 2h isn't that weird.. You are the one lying.
[/QUOTE]

Coincidence is named that for a reason; it happens rarely. It is a way more reasonable assumption to think somoene was lurking and responded to an attack rather than naming it as coincidence.

And VE weren't you the one who was adamant about getting on a Palmar wagon? Why the sudden attack on redFF for doing the same?
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 07 2011 00:30 GMT
#1157
On December 07 2011 08:33 kingjames01 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2011 05:16 annul wrote:
okay hi people

i just got home from florida civil procedure 4.5 hour final exam. my brain hurts. i dont want to think.

someone tell me what is going on as of like 10 pm yesterday until now cuz i dont wanna bother reading


Congrats on writing your final! How do you feel it went?

A summary of major events occurring between approximately 10 pm EST and now:
  • There was a strong bandwagon forming on Hier based on nothing more than the "we need to kill SOMEONE" mentality.
  • I finally got to post my analysis on Refallen with a few more lines tacked on denouncing him and attempting to pressure mafia into using more votes.
  • Some discussion was still going on but the game was pretty silent.
  • Hier flipped Vanilla Town.
  • Drazerk claimed Roleblock Immune Medic who is forced to claim Night 1.
  • Discussion on the motivation and timeline of vaderseven shooting Soap.
  • Discussion on the veracity of Drazerk's claim.
  • Discussion on the pros/cons of talking at night.
  • Interspersed between these major events are players posting thoughts on each other.


Here are some of my thoughts before I post an in-depth analysis on specific players:

Hier flipping Vanilla Town -
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 14:56 kingjames01 wrote:
So... for those of you who thought that flipping Hier would give Town an advantage, what did you learn? Why don't you share your amazing revelations with the rest of us?


Discussion on the motivation and timeline of vaderseven shooting Soap -
A simple question: is it normal that the kill order be posted in the thread and not required to be in a PM to the mods?

Talking at night:
If you have something important to share with the Town then you better get it into the thread. If you die we'll have more information from your flip and posts than if you took your secrets to the grave with you.



i am very confident in this final. =D 17 questions, and when i walked out, i honestly felt i got 17/17 correct. i had citations for all my answers and i think i did very well. of course, sometimes its the tests you think you destroyed that you end up doing worst on, but i really think i did well this time.

also thank you for being the only person to do as requested.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
December 07 2011 00:35 GMT
#1158
On December 07 2011 09:25 Refallen wrote:
And VE weren't you the one who was adamant about getting on a Palmar wagon? Why the sudden attack on redFF for doing the same?


He didn't do the same. I followed HIM onto the Palmar wagon. The circumstances surrounding what wagon he DID end up on are what I'm attacking here. He ended up on Hier yesterday Refallen, did YOU know that? Like, without looking at the Vote-count thread, would YOU have remembered that Red was on the Hier wagon? I didn't, I had to go look to SEE what wagon he was on. That's what I'm attacking here, not his 'preference to lynch Palmar'. He didn't want to lynch Palmar that's what I'm getting at here. He says he did, but I suspect that he didn't. Because they're buddies.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 07 2011 00:36 GMT
#1159
On December 07 2011 07:55 sandroba wrote:
@Annul Can you please point me to a game where you lasted a bit as scum, I'm in a mood to read right now.


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vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
December 07 2011 00:44 GMT
#1160
In the interests of my own feelings on what is smart/not I will say my shit in a few hours aka morning VEye.

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