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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
On December 20 2011 00:24 Palmar wrote: that's exactly how I took prplhz's post, I assumed he agreed with me, and decided to sarcastically jump on sandroba's wagon. Lies. Obviously my method is way moar efficient. | ||
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Incognito
United States2071 Posts
On December 19 2011 12:55 Toadesstern wrote: just a couple things I'd like to mentioned / ask before I go to bed and will read them tomorrow if you answer. 1) Why was I suspicious d1? I thought I was doing quite ok d1 and most people thought so as well. I can see that I did a couple of slips (after d1) and obvisously everything with annul made me look like mafia but I don't know what made me look mafia on d1. 2) As already mentioned when talking to wherebugs I think the votecount you quoted is wrong or weird. Both VE and myself were voting sandroba early on and you mentioned we were not? 3) The roleblock on V7 was a mistake of ours. We thought that if we kill refallen the save he does will not happen and since we did not have a better target we wanted to play it safe and just rb V7. I even asked you about it in a pm but I guess it was too late :p So yeah, we thought a refallen kill nullifies his protection and therefore we thought we do not have to RB refallen. Those are the things I just saw and while 1) is a question I'd like to see the answer to improve and 2) and 3) are some things that we just saw in a complete other way resulting in bullshit of our own :p 1) Your day 1 posts were not very cohesive, and radiate feelings of "I'm trying to look like I'm helping out". Your posts are evasive and really don't get anywhere, even though they are quite long. I had a hard time understanding them myself. 2) You were on sandroba as like the 4th vote? Which I have no problem with. 3) In most normal games, night actions happen simultaneously. Which means night deaths don't cancel people's ability to save someone, shoot someone, etc. On December 19 2011 13:05 Jackal58 wrote: Thank you for putting the time and effort into putting this together Incognito. Unlike some of my red brethern I don't feel like we were at any extreme disadvantage. And ya the Annul claim was less than optimal. I believe I asked him "wtf are you thinking" . A question on your analysis regarding my day 1 play - Am I really that aggressive as town? Yes, the difference between your town and mafia play is night and day. In games where you are town, you have no inhibitions, and generally push your suspicions forcefully and vocally without regard to what other people are saying. Even if you end up being wrong, this gives a strong sense that your posts have a sense of direction, which is always a good thing. In this game, you were much more diplomatic, cautious, and were slow to commit to your opinions. Your posts never really felt like they were leading anywhere, and this post especially struck me as uncharacteristic of your play. You push Palmar earlier, but not that forcefully, and you certainly don't follow up strongly on it either. On December 19 2011 13:21 VisceraEyes wrote: I agree that the mason power would have made the game more interesting, but with the restriction on the power and the fact that Day Vig was one of the choices (instant gratification will win over strategic prudence most of the time imo) it was likely doomed to disuse unless we had come up with a plan that specifically involved it, and I imagine v7 was worried he's mason with scum if he used it. I enjoyed the game for my first back in a while, thx Incog and WBG for hosting. I thought the setup provided a lot of possibility and would definitely play it again. Was there a reason for having a parity cop vs having just a normal cop? Because given the 2 jacks in the setup, there was a lot of potential for confusion and I think a normal cop would have been just fine as far as balance goes if that's the reason. I feel like mason was an easy second power to pick for Jack after you have used your dayvig (I would probably have used mason first and dayvig later after discussing with someone like Radfield). Medic/Veteran are pretty much gambles unless you are privy to some information, but mason can always help you out. The reason for parity cop instead of normal cop was simply that parity is weaker than normal cop. Note that this game did not have any DT-tampering roles. Given that I wanted town to be less dependent on blue roles than usual but still have some sort of investigative power, I went for parity cop. Confusion arising from multiple jacks shouldn't really be an issue, since as stated earlier, comparison of roles shouldn't really happen and thus isn't a factor in balance. It was really the town's mistake for focusing so much on the issue. On December 19 2011 13:41 Refallen wrote: Thank you hosts for hosting this game  Should I have claimed medic? You should generally never claim medic. Most games have a mafia roleblocker, so claiming medic basically means that your power is more or less useless for the rest of the game. You always have to worry about being a target and town can't depend on your protections. And if the problem is that you were up for lynch (which wasn't the issue this game), chances are, you messed up somewhere earlier in the game. One circumstance in which it is ok to claim is if you have made a successful save on someone (who you feel to be town) who is up for lynch for whatever reason. In this case, claiming that you blocked a hit on the person could save the town from going down a dangerous path, and could be worth the risk of being roleblocked for the rest of the game. | ||
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
On December 20 2011 01:17 Mattchew wrote: I don't like how there is no longer a filter button.  Yes there is? | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
It was gone. But now it's back. MAJIKS!!!!!!! | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
It's how I caught you in Resurrection and Cosmic. In LoTR after like an hour of tunneling you reacted in such an aggressive manner that I figured you were town. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On December 20 2011 07:31 wherebugsgo wrote: Yeah Jackal you are a lot more aggressive as town. It's how I caught you in Resurrection and Cosmic. In LoTR after like an hour of tunneling you reacted in such an aggressive manner that I figured you were town. I don't remember Cosmic. I still think my best scum performance was in Eldritch Horror. I managed to take that to end game by myself through 4 or 5 days. I think I directed every town lynch. Of course shooting you made that all possible. | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
On December 20 2011 09:13 Jackal58 wrote: I don't remember Cosmic. I still think my best scum performance was in Eldritch Horror. I managed to take that to end game by myself through 4 or 5 days. I think I directed every town lynch. Of course shooting you made that all possible. Cosmic=eldritch horror. That was the game I replaced into and I was like oh yeah Jackal+Forumite scum! And then got shot because the deadline was at 6 am so I went to sleep instead of posting my case. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On December 20 2011 09:20 wherebugsgo wrote: Cosmic=eldritch horror. That was the game I replaced into and I was like oh yeah Jackal+Forumite scum! And then got shot because the deadline was at 6 am so I went to sleep instead of posting my case. Ahh ya. That was the game where your only post was "Hey all. I''ll post my reads after the day post" Boom. | ||
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Foolishness
United States3044 Posts
To be blunt, there is an extreme amount of hate and negative attitude in the post-game discussion. And I don't even need to point fingers because there are multiple people doing it. So if you're reading this and wondering if I'm talking about you, yes I am. The kinds of phrases that I read in the past few pages are not something that is or ever will be acceptable on TL Mafia. If saying something is grounds for warning/modkill in a game, that does not mean it is acceptable to start saying it once the game is over. Post-game discussion is the best place for players to reflect upon their play and realize where improvement is needed. When hateful comments are thrown around, it not only is it offensive to the person in question, but it is also disrespectful to those players who are taking the discussion seriously and trying to improve (especially since there were a handful of newer players in this game as well). There's no justification for the things I have read. Clean up your attitude. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
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vaderseven
United States2556 Posts
On December 22 2011 04:55 Radfield wrote: Big thanks to Incognito and Wherebugsgo for hosting this. For my part at least, this was an extremely well run game, and I had a blast. Thanks guys. Yes, tyty! | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
Oh, and with this game, I don't think we're entitled to say "at least we're not as bad as mafiascum". | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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Kenpachi
United States9908 Posts
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
On January 01 2012 18:44 Kenpachi wrote: | ||
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
On January 01 2012 17:30 DoctorHelvetica wrote: what happened to the community it was awesome when i first started playing tbh its why i dont care about mafia at all anymore I'm sure not playing helps a lot. Nice bittervet status bro | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On January 01 2012 19:20 Risen wrote: I'm sure not playing helps a lot. Nice bittervet status bro Yeah if only I signed up for more games surely everything would get better | ||
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prplhz
Denmark8045 Posts
I hope you'll come around DoctorHelvetica, this place (well, any place really) can always use more people like you | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
Sure, things get heated and a little out of hand that game, but people cool down. It's like in sports or whatever, if you really care about what you're doing, you're going to get angry. The main thing is that people can then let it go and play again, which most of us have no problem with. I dislike people throwing demeaning comments against a community like that. | ||
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Zona
40426 Posts
On January 01 2012 21:06 Palmar wrote: I dislike people throwing demeaning comments against a community like that. I wholeheartedly agree with this post. Well, my other comment was just so that the players here don't unjustifiably use that comparison to build up their own egos. | ||
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