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kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
December 13 2011 22:29 GMT
#2601
CRAP!

##Vote: hyshes
Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 13 2011 22:31 GMT
#2602
though read mattchew's filter lol

he pushes palmar for a while and then instaflips onto me... then instaflips off of me and onto redff... then instantly ges back onto me...

his main argument all the while is "annul claimed to be shot and no medic came out to claim he got saved" -- now we know 1. i did get shot and 2. medics did save me

so what is HIS reason now for being on me? oh yeah "well annul is detracting from scumhunting and is 70% of the town debate" <--- not something i control!

when asked about me or redff he says "They are both bad for town. That usually means they are scum correct? They both have provided nothing and annul has been distracting. I believe they are both scum"

proven wrong once... will be proven wrong again if i flip. so really you have provided even less of a nothing than i have, because i have to act to save myself; you do not and you chose poorly.


so i mean this is what you contribute: the drazerk defense:

On December 12 2011 13:09 Mattchew wrote:
I suck at this game.

fuck.


On December 13 2011 14:41 Mattchew wrote:
lol at how bad I am at this game




and lastly, something that encapsulates your play style this game in some perfect and pristine format...


On December 14 2011 02:48 Mattchew wrote:
I am starting to believe that both Draz and Annul are town.


TWENTY EIGHT MINUTES LATER


On December 14 2011 03:16 Mattchew wrote:
##vote annul



res ipsa loquitor.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 13 2011 22:35 GMT
#2603
also lol at the hyshes filter

30 posts of "stop sheeping palmar and going after annul" to "yeah lets kill annul" to "nm mattchew is a good kill target"
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
December 13 2011 22:35 GMT
#2604
On December 14 2011 07:04 Mattchew wrote:
You couldn't say those 4 ablities? fuck I would have lynched Annul so much faster had I known that was it. All of those are town/scum neutral


Thats the abilities I have in the correct order.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
December 13 2011 22:37 GMT
#2605
Im not gonna mason anyone today.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
December 13 2011 22:44 GMT
#2606
On December 14 2011 07:31 annul wrote:
though read mattchew's filter lol

he pushes palmar for a while and then instaflips onto me... then instaflips off of me and onto redff... then instantly ges back onto me...

his main argument all the while is "annul claimed to be shot and no medic came out to claim he got saved" -- now we know 1. i did get shot and 2. medics did save me

so what is HIS reason now for being on me? oh yeah "well annul is detracting from scumhunting and is 70% of the town debate" <--- not something i control!

when asked about me or redff he says "They are both bad for town. That usually means they are scum correct? They both have provided nothing and annul has been distracting. I believe they are both scum"

proven wrong once... will be proven wrong again if i flip. so really you have provided even less of a nothing than i have, because i have to act to save myself; you do not and you chose poorly.


so i mean this is what you contribute: the drazerk defense:

Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 13:09 Mattchew wrote:
I suck at this game.

fuck.


Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 14:41 Mattchew wrote:
lol at how bad I am at this game




and lastly, something that encapsulates your play style this game in some perfect and pristine format...


Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 02:48 Mattchew wrote:
I am starting to believe that both Draz and Annul are town.


TWENTY EIGHT MINUTES LATER


Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 03:16 Mattchew wrote:
##vote annul



res ipsa loquitor.


I responded with my I suck and I am bad's to seperate events that made me realize how bad I was playing
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
December 13 2011 22:46 GMT
#2607
On December 14 2011 07:35 annul wrote:
also lol at the hyshes filter

30 posts of "stop sheeping palmar and going after annul" to "yeah lets kill annul" to "nm mattchew is a good kill target"


He's definitely not the most vocal scum in the game, but based on his posts and voting record I would conclude that he must be mafia.

Who would sup with the mighty, must walk the path of daggers.
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 13 2011 22:55 GMT
#2608
by the way v7 you didnt unvote correctly
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 13 2011 23:04 GMT
#2609
lol hyshes' voting history IS whack.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 13 2011 23:07 GMT
#2610
Please don't let annul survive again -.-
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 13 2011 23:12 GMT
#2611
"dont let me survive again"

you say "again" like you didnt support leaving me alive yesterday, like its everyone else's problem that im alive. (of course i say "problem" facetiously; its a good thing that im not dead)
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 13 2011 23:16 GMT
#2612
Forget about day 2?
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 13 2011 23:16 GMT
#2613
forget about day 3?
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 13 2011 23:18 GMT
#2614
Regarding drazerk, I don't think he executed it that well, but his plan was apparent. He was trying to get shot because he was a veteran.

It wouldn't have been a safe play for a mafia to claim to be a really powerful role (which he did) because then the mafia would gun him down really quickly and it would look suspicious if they didn't. He was hoping the trap would already be sprung, the mafia would attack him the veteran and he could explain it all.

He was trying to be a hero, but it didn't work out.

Now, annul, v7 has all the same abilities as annul. That doesn't prove that annul is town, but I think other things are compelling.
1. The balance argument. 6 mafia vs 19 town. I doubt mafia would be given a role with a day vig power.
2. Not killing Palmar. annul could have killed Palmar earlier because Palmar did seem suspicious early in the game. He could have easily rationalized it, but he didn't. Palmar was already tunnelling annul early on day 2. At that point, Palmar wasn't very highly regarded as town.
3. Giving his shot to Toadesstern. He didn't know who Toad was going to have him shoot. I'm sure he didn't expect Toad to shoot prplhz. He couldn't have just backed out if Toad told him to kill someone who really was mafia. If he really were mafia, he could have easily shot redFF or someone else who had been very suspicious all game.

Hyshes: Hyshes has made no effort towards being pro-town.

He has the MO of the average mafia player this game (seemingly.) The mafia have been staying below the radar and the townies have been the ones drawing attention to themselves. Honestly, as a town, we've made it really easy for the mafia. redFF did several shady things that brought attention to himself. So have Palmar, v7, annul, and drazerk. I'll admit that I don't know that annul, drazerk, and v7 are town, but it seems that the mafia have been able to just lay low this game and watch the town be self-destructive by some players drawing all the attention to themselves and others just focusing on them.

The mafia haven't had any need to do anything bold like claim RB immune medic or offer a shot to the most townie considered person. They've been able to lie low and I think that's how we'll find them, the quiet, unhelpful, uninvolved players, like hyshes.

##vote hyshes
Carbon FC
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 13 2011 23:18 GMT
#2615
in any case, revoting hyshes for the time being. lets see what he responds with.

killing a red of any type is fine by me.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
December 13 2011 23:22 GMT
#2616
On December 14 2011 08:18 TruthBringer wrote:
Regarding drazerk, I don't think he executed it that well, but his plan was apparent. He was trying to get shot because he was a veteran.

It wouldn't have been a safe play for a mafia to claim to be a really powerful role (which he did) because then the mafia would gun him down really quickly and it would look suspicious if they didn't. He was hoping the trap would already be sprung, the mafia would attack him the veteran and he could explain it all.

He was trying to be a hero, but it didn't work out.

Now, annul, v7 has all the same abilities as annul. That doesn't prove that annul is town, but I think other things are compelling.
1. The balance argument. 6 mafia vs 19 town. I doubt mafia would be given a role with a day vig power.
2. Not killing Palmar. annul could have killed Palmar earlier because Palmar did seem suspicious early in the game. He could have easily rationalized it, but he didn't. Palmar was already tunnelling annul early on day 2. At that point, Palmar wasn't very highly regarded as town.
3. Giving his shot to Toadesstern. He didn't know who Toad was going to have him shoot. I'm sure he didn't expect Toad to shoot prplhz. He couldn't have just backed out if Toad told him to kill someone who really was mafia. If he really were mafia, he could have easily shot redFF or someone else who had been very suspicious all game.

Hyshes: Hyshes has made no effort towards being pro-town.

He has the MO of the average mafia player this game (seemingly.) The mafia have been staying below the radar and the townies have been the ones drawing attention to themselves. Honestly, as a town, we've made it really easy for the mafia. redFF did several shady things that brought attention to himself. So have Palmar, v7, annul, and drazerk. I'll admit that I don't know that annul, drazerk, and v7 are town, but it seems that the mafia have been able to just lay low this game and watch the town be self-destructive by some players drawing all the attention to themselves and others just focusing on them.

The mafia haven't had any need to do anything bold like claim RB immune medic or offer a shot to the most townie considered person. They've been able to lie low and I think that's how we'll find them, the quiet, unhelpful, uninvolved players, like hyshes.

##vote hyshes


We have 2 medics, a JOAT with a medic ability, an extra vote, a syllo with 2 shots, and a cop. You really think they couldn't/wouldn't give scum 1, ONE, extra shot?
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
December 13 2011 23:23 GMT
#2617
I'm a VT TruthBringer...
annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
December 13 2011 23:26 GMT
#2618
"a JOAT with a medic ability"

two, actually
Lanaia
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1142 Posts
December 13 2011 23:27 GMT
#2619
On December 14 2011 07:31 annul wrote:
though read mattchew's filter lol

he pushes palmar for a while and then instaflips onto me... then instaflips off of me and onto redff... then instantly ges back onto me...

his main argument all the while is "annul claimed to be shot and no medic came out to claim he got saved" -- now we know 1. i did get shot and 2. medics did save me

so what is HIS reason now for being on me? oh yeah "well annul is detracting from scumhunting and is 70% of the town debate" <--- not something i control!

when asked about me or redff he says "They are both bad for town. That usually means they are scum correct? They both have provided nothing and annul has been distracting. I believe they are both scum"

proven wrong once... will be proven wrong again if i flip. so really you have provided even less of a nothing than i have, because i have to act to save myself; you do not and you chose poorly.


so i mean this is what you contribute: the drazerk defense:

Show nested quote +
On December 12 2011 13:09 Mattchew wrote:
I suck at this game.

fuck.



Show nested quote +
On December 13 2011 14:41 Mattchew wrote:
lol at how bad I am at this game




and lastly, something that encapsulates your play style this game in some perfect and pristine format...


Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 02:48 Mattchew wrote:
I am starting to believe that both Draz and Annul are town.


TWENTY EIGHT MINUTES LATER


Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 03:16 Mattchew wrote:
##vote annul



res ipsa loquitor.


This is why I think Matt is scum. That was an extremely quick change of heart. Well, it's part of why. I'd prefer lynching him over hyshes.

His last post makes me want to lynch him even harder. His reasons for voting this game remind me of last game when I was his scumbuddy.

However, we NEED to be consolidated today. We can't afford a nolynch, if my calculations are correct.

Where's Jackal? I want to see what he has to say about all this.
<3 If you chase a mirage, the desert will swallow you.
TruthBringer
Profile Joined November 2003
United States578 Posts
December 13 2011 23:30 GMT
#2620
On December 14 2011 08:23 Drazerk wrote:
I'm a VT TruthBringer...

Sorry, what is a VT?
Carbon FC
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