Dethy - IRC - Page 4

<xtfftc> wai,t who's playing?
<Zephirdd> ^
<Palmar> rofl
<Cwave> ^
<xtfftc> Zephirdd, xtfftc Cwave risknuke Serejai ?
<Palmar> zephirdd, xtf, risknuke, serejai and cwave
<Palmar> yes
<Zephirdd> k
<Palmar> It is now day 1 - With 5 players alive it takes 3 to lynch
<Zephirdd> K
<Zephirdd> soooo
<risknuke> okey I'll do a countdown everyone says who they voted for
<risknuke> on 1
<risknuke> 10
<Palmar> (you have to lynch, I don't allow no lynch)
<risknuke> 9
<Zephirdd> k risknuke is scum
<risknuke> 8
<risknuke> 7
<Zephirdd> lol
<risknuke> 6
<risknuke> 5
<xtfftc> ...
<risknuke> 4
<risknuke> 3
<risknuke> 2
<risknuke> 1
<risknuke> zeph - town
<Serejai> risknuke town
<xtfftc> risk mafia as well
<Cwave> I read scum on Zephirdd
<Zephirdd> xtfftc: townb
<Zephirdd> u insane
<Zephirdd> or paranoid
<Serejai> One sec, let me write all this down
<Serejai> So
<Zephirdd> for the record
<Zephirdd> I was joking on the risknuke scum thing
<Serejai> Me: Risknuke town, xtf: Risknuke mafia
<Zephirdd> hmm
<Serejai> Zeph says xtf is town
<Serejai> And then we have a Mafia and Town read on Zeph
<Cwave> Jep
<Zephirdd> hmmm
<xtfftc> I think I got something
<Cwave> So that leaves me with Paranoid or Sane
<xtfftc> serejai says risk town
<Zephirdd> xtfftc is insane, cwave is scum
<xtfftc> uh, wait
<xtfftc> no
<Zephirdd> imo
<Zephirdd> no wait lol
<Serejai> I'm also gonna call you guys by the first letter of your names from now on cause I'm lazy
<Zephirdd> backwards
<Zephirdd> and I'm naive
<Serejai> Sane is normal checks
<Serejai> Insane is backwards
<Serejai> Naive is... always town?
<Zephirdd> cwave insane/paranoid, xtff scum, I naive/insane
<risknuke> I'm not clear, if I'm scum then zeph is naive/insane - xtff is paranoid/sane - serejai is insaine/naive - cwave is paranoid/ insane
<Zephirdd> thats what I mean t_t
<Serejai> And paranoid always scum?
<Palmar> (rofl)
<risknuke> how do I activate colors on webchat?
<Serejai> stfu palmar
<Serejai> CtrlN
<Serejai> er, b
<Cwave> If im paranoid, risk is Sane or Naive
<Serejai> wait, wtf
<Serejai> Webchat, I dunno. I can't even remember mirc
<Serejai> Not sure webchat has colors though
<Zephirdd> i dont think you can on webchat
<Zephirdd> lol
<Zephirdd> k we have to vote right?
<Palmar> yes
<Zephirdd> hmm
<Serejai> We have mafia hits on both risk and zeph
<Serejai> I'd be inclined to lynch zeph simply because of his fake claim during the countdown -_-
<Zephirdd> what
<Cwave> agree
<Zephirdd> it was a joke
<Zephirdd> Cwave is scum
<Zephirdd> LOL
<Zephirdd> that or insane or paranoid
<Zephirdd> whatever
<Zephirdd> I'm a cop, trust me
<Palmar> (use ##vote playername to vote. Day ends when someone reaches 3 votes)
<Cwave> well no, i got a scum read on you!
<Zephirdd> that's what I'm saying, your read is wrong!
<Serejai> If Zeph is scum
<Zephirdd> if...?
<Serejai> Then Cwave is sane/paranoid, risk is insane/naive, I am sane/naive, and xtf is insane/paranoid
<xtfftc> cwave can't be sane if zeph is mafia
<Serejai> cwave got mafia read on zeph
<Zephirdd> ofc he could, but he is not
<xtfftc> yeah but it deosn't fit with the othe reads
<Zephirdd> risk read town on me
<Zephirdd> what else?
<xtfftc> serej - risk town and me - risk mafia
<Zephirdd> there is also naive/paranoid possibility
<Zephirdd> serej naive and you paranoid
<Palmar> I'm listening to cascada's "everytime we touch" and it's the second dumbest thing in my life at the moment.
<Cwave> on who?
<xtfftc> so if zeph is sane, risk or serej have to be naive/insane
<Serejai> PALMAR NO TALKING DURING GAME PLEASE
<xtfftc> cwave*
<Serejai> LAST WARNING
<Zephirdd> lol XD
<Palmar> lol
<risknuke> god i can't turn on colored names
<risknuke> this is to confusing
<Serejai> All I can say is mafia better kill me tonight
<Serejai> Cause if not
<Serejai> I'm gonna win this shit tomorrow
<Zephirdd> lol
<Serejai> With my fancy whiteboard
<Serejai> And red/green colored graph
<Cwave> .....*gazes serejai
<xtfftc> shut up please
<Zephirdd> ##vote Cwave
<Zephirdd> just because
<Cwave> ##vote Zephirdd Cause you read scum for me and made a "joke" before countdown
<risknuke> Ill go with zeph
<risknuke> ##vote zephird
<Zephirdd> zomg
<Serejai> ##vote Zeph
<xtfftc> I think cwave as well
<Zephirdd> k I'm dead
<Palmar> Zephirdd is lynched
<Zephirdd> glhf
<xtfftc> uh, too late
<Palmar> Zephirdd was a cop
<risknuke> balls
<Palmar> It is now night 2 - NO TALKING
<Palmar> Ok, risknuke the cop is dead
<Palmar> it is now day 2
<Palmar> 2 votes to lynch
<Serejai> Alright, post on 1
<Serejai> 10
<xtfftc> countdown anyone?
<Serejai> 9
<xtfftc> kk
<Serejai> 8
<Serejai> 7
<Serejai> 6
<Serejai> 5
<Serejai> 4
<Serejai> 3
<Serejai> 2
<Serejai> 1
<xtfftc> serejai town
<Serejai> cwave tonw
<Cwave> Went for serejai and got scum again.
<Cwave> Makes sense since im Paranoid. Leaves risk with Naive/Sane due to earlier call on Zeph..
<Serejai> Ok, one sec
<Cwave> Risk dead
<xtfftc> you may be insane
<Serejai> Ok. I've got two town reads, one being on risk
<Serejai> So I'm either sane or naive
<xtfftc> or scum
<Cwave> I cant be since i had a double call on zeph
<Cwave> and risk read him town
<Serejai> xtf has a mafia on risk, who was town
<Serejai> And a town on me, and I know I'm town
<Serejai> So this is easy for me
<Serejai> ##vote xtf
<Serejai> cwave, you have a mafia on zeph and a mafia on me
<Serejai> And we're both town
<Serejai> so you're paranoid
<Serejai> or insane
<Cwave> yes.. agree on paranoid
<Serejai> So, xtf it is.
<xtfftc> unless I'm insane
<Serejai> If you were insane
<xtfftc> or you're lying about your reads
<Cwave> insane would mean that risk is paranoid?
<Serejai> Then I would have to be scum
<Serejai> But I know I'm a cop
<Serejai> So I personally know you're the scum
<Serejai> How to convince cwave of that, I'm not sure
<Serejai> Hm..
<xtfftc> yeah but you knowing doesn't work for my reads
<Cwave> son of a!
<xtfftc> okay, so if I'm insane, cwave is paranoid, risk is naive and zeph is sane
<Serejai> Me and risk are naive/sane
<Serejai> cwave is paranoid
<Cwave> What makes you insane xtf?
<Serejai> Zeph was insane
<xtfftc> getting serejai town if he's mafia
<xtfftc> makes me insane
<Serejai> WAIT LOLOLOL
<Serejai> I THINK I MESSED UP
<xtfftc> you did
<Serejai> No, I didn't
<xtfftc> ##vote: serejai
<Serejai> nevermind
<Serejai> So, I am either
<Serejai> Sane or naive
<Serejai> Risk was sane or naive
<Serejai> Cwave you are paranoid
<Serejai> Zeph had a town on xtc, who I know for a fact is scum
<Serejai> Which makes him the insane.
<Serejai> Leaving xtf as the scum
<Cwave> ##vote: xtfftc
<xtfftc> tt
<Serejai> Yeahhhhh
<Palmar> xtf is dead
<Zephirdd> WE WIN
<Palmar> xtfftc is mafia scum
<Serejai> Yeahhhhh
<Palmar> hahahahah
<Cwave> My old brain needs more coffee for this, my god
<xtfftc> it is fun though, once you start thinking
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<Zephirdd> ^ :<
* sandroba (webchat@201.80.224.144) has joined #TLMafia
<Serejai> ragequit
<Palmar>
<xtfftc> I couldn't force myself to do it until day 2 started
<Zephirdd> oh hai sand
<Palmar> I mean
<Palmar> it's not like
<Palmar> Cwave was confirmed town day 1
<sandroba> sup
<Palmar> and serjai confirmed town day 2
<Palmar> and you still argued it
<Palmar> for like 10 minutes
<Serejai> lol.

<Zephirdd> :<
<Palmar> It is now day 1 - With 5 players alive it takes 3 to lynch
<Palmar> gl hf
<Zephirdd> k
<Zephirdd> 321 countdown to tell
<Zephirdd> 3
<Cwave> CD?
<Zephirdd> 2
<Zephirdd> 1
<Zephirdd> risknuke scum
<xtfftc> risk town
<Serejai> cwave town
<Cwave> Risknuke:town
<Zephirdd> lol
<Serejai> damnit, risk
<Zephirdd> where is risk?
<xtfftc> lol
<risknuke> xtfc scum
<xtfftc> fighting with his irc client
<risknuke> sorry
<Zephirdd> k
<risknuke> shaddup
<Cwave> Okok
<Zephirdd> so
<risknuke> this is temporary :p
<Zephirdd> I believe I'm paranoid
<Serejai> Get a real client :s
<Zephirdd> lol
<risknuke> I will tonight
<Serejai> Why do you believe you're paranoid off a single check?
<Zephirdd> dunno, just gut feeling
<Cwave> Two town on risk and one scum read
<Zephirdd> I do this all the time
<derpladee> i'm up if you need a 5th btw just pm spam me a bit
<Zephirdd> serejai/cwave are s/n
<Zephirdd> I'm i/p
<Zephirdd> assuming risk is town
<Cwave> xtf also s/n right
<Serejai> I'm still trying to wrap my head around how Palmar explained the day one thing last game
<Zephirdd> ops
<Serejai> Cause I still don't entirely get it
<Zephirdd> I mean serejai/xtf
<Cwave> since he read town on risk also
<Zephirdd> jesus
<Zephirdd> I mean cwave/xtf
<Zephirdd> -_-
<Cwave> So assuming xtf is town as me, Sane and Naive are taken
<Serejai> And..
<risknuke> okey I'm cleared
<Cwave> So Sane read on risk sticking means risk is town
<Zephirdd> that makes serejai scum, or either cwave or xtf scum
<Cwave> means he is paranoid or insane
<Zephirdd> aka. serejai is town we are down to cwave/xtf
<Cwave> Since sane is taken
<Serejai> Well I got a town on cwave
<Zephirdd> so I say we lynch serejai to get his read
<Serejai> So I'm either sane or naive?
<Zephirdd> that's the problem
<Zephirdd> if you are town
<xtfftc> yeah risk is cleared
<Cwave> cant be if we assume X is town
<Serejai> But cwave isnt cleared yet
<Zephirdd> cwave/xtf can't be
<Serejai> Only risk is cleared right?
<risknuke> I'll check you now
<Cwave> risk is sane/insane/paranoid assuming me or xtf isnt cleared. If he is sane, xt is scum and im naive
<Zephirdd> Serejai town => Cwave/xtf can't be town; which means get serejai and suddenly we are down to cwave/xtf only
<risknuke> xtfc is not cleared
<Cwave> zeph para and sere insane. This cant be since Im town and a insane read on me means Xt or Sera is scum
<Serejai> Unless you're the scum, in which case that makes me sane
<Serejai> And para/zeph sane too?
<Cwave> then we cant have a correct read on risk no?
<Zephirdd> risk is town
<Zephirdd> I think
<Serejai> Oh, wait. FDor some reason I just thought "para" was another player lolol
<Cwave> Two town reads and one scum on risk. Means atleast one of them is a clean read
<Zephirdd> rofl
<Serejai> Yeah, risk is cleared
<Serejai> Nobody else appears to be
<risknuke> serejai is not cleared
<xtfftc> I get naive/sane/insane for serrejai
<xtfftc> no way he's cleared
<Serejai> Yeah I'm not cleared
<Cwave> he cant be sane anymore
<Zephirdd> look, this is my mind right now: We lynch Serejai, scum will kill risk or me(prob risk since he is cleared), which means I'll determine who is and who isnt scum
<Serejai> So, if I'm not sane and I got a town on you
<xtfftc> oh, can't be insane either
<xtfftc> naive*
<Serejai> And can't be naive
<xtfftc> no, wait
<Serejai> That means I'm insane or paranoid?
<Serejai> In which case that makes cwave scsum
<Zephirdd> lol
<Zephirdd> ^
<risknuke> btw this is like the 5'th time out of 7 i get killed night 1
<Zephirdd> rofl^
<xtfftc> cwave, how come serejai can't be sane?
<risknuke> and 1 of thsoe tiems I were scum
<Cwave> Since we get two positives reads on risk and one negative
<Serejai> If I can't be sane, then cwave is scum because I'd have to be insane or paranoid
<Cwave> means one of those positives has to be a sane read
<xtfftc> Cwave, you may be lying
<Cwave> if risk is confirmed town
<Palmar> (this game is hilarious)
<xtfftc> and the other town check on risk can be naive
<Cwave> I understand i might be, but the fact is either me or XT is sane
<xtfftc> no, we can be one mafia and one naive
<Cwave> if we really confirm risk as green
<Serejai> Unless you're scum. Then one of you is naive
<Cwave> then risk isnt confirmed?
<xtfftc> he is
<xtfftc> just not by a sane check
<xtfftc> vote: cwave
<Zephirdd> ##vote cwave
<Cwave> mafia naive and paranoid on the 3 on risk
<Serejai> ##vote cwave
<Cwave> would yield those results...
<Cwave> argh
<risknuke> wait
<Palmar> rofl
<xtfftc> at least Palmar is having a laugh
<risknuke> i think zeph is cleared
<risknuke> let me doublecheck
<Palmar> you need to format the vote correctly
<Cwave> im dead...
<Palmar> xtf
<Palmar> I'm not counting it
<xtfftc> waiting for risk
<Palmar> ok
<Zephirdd> :O
<risknuke> zeph is cleared
<Cwave> means im not dead yet?
<Zephirdd> k
<Serejai> Ok
<Cwave> Im town you bastards@!
<risknuke> who are we killing?
<Cwave> Xt lured you into voting
<Zephirdd> cwave
<xtfftc> cwave
<xtfftc> ##vote cwave
<Zephirdd> he died
<Palmar> cwave has been lynched
<Palmar> Cwave was a cop
<Palmar> it is now night 2
<xtfftc> tt
<Palmar> no talking
<Serejai> fuck you xtf t.t
<Palmar> risk.nuke has been found dead. Predictably, he was a cop
<Palmar> It is now day 2
<Palmar> 2 votes to lynch
<Serejai> meh
<xtfftc> 5
<xtfftc> 4
<xtfftc> 3
<xtfftc> 2
<xtfftc> 1
<xtfftc> Serejai mafia
<Serejai> cp on xtf
<Zephirdd> xtfftc scum
<Serejai> cop*
<Zephirdd> k, kill serejai
<Serejai> so
<xtfftc> kk
<Serejai> Wait, what?
<Zephirdd> I'm paranoid
<Serejai> I'm insane
<xtfftc> and I'm sane
<Serejai> If ytou're paranoid
<Serejai> And I'm insane
<Serejai> You got scum on xtf
<Serejai> And I got town
<Serejai> Which makes him scum
<Zephirdd> hm
<xtfftc> what was risk's sanity then?
<xtfftc> Serejai,
<xtfftc> ?
<Serejai> He was sane, was he not?
<xtfftc> he was paranoid or insane
<xtfftc> now just to prove it...
<Serejai> You also started the lynch on cwave, who was town
<Zephirdd> serejai got town on cwave, but cwave was town
<Zephirdd> so you cant be insane
<Serejai> Because you got the stuff wrong
<Zephirdd> ##vote Serejai
<xtfftc> wait, let him suffer
<Zephirdd> rofl
<Serejai> Nah, I screwed up with the last line ^_^
<xtfftc> ##vote Serejai
<Zephirdd> XD
<Palmar> Serejai is lynched
<risknuke> fools! it's xtfc
<Palmar> He was mafia scum
<Zephirdd> lolz
<Cwave> loool
<risknuke>
<xtfftc> yay
<Palmar> Why does the world reward dumbasses
<Palmar> risknuke was not cleared day one
<Zephirdd> rofl
<xtfftc> we used logic and stuff!
<Serejai> Yeah
<Cwave> i lol'd
<Palmar> Zephirdd on the other hand was

17:34:35<+Palmar> Important rules: Majority lynch, Forced-lynch on day 1, no sanities
17:34:46<+Palmar> starts night 0
17:34:49< Zephirdd> k
17:34:50<+Palmar> people ready?
17:34:50< sandroba> cool beans
17:35:02< Zephirdd> rdy~
17:35:09< sandroba> risk is not here i think
17:35:26< risknuke> rdy
17:36:05<+derpladee> no sanities means only sane?
17:36:21< Zephirdd> I guess...
17:36:51<+Palmar> Alright:
17:37:00<+Palmar> wait
17:37:02<+Palmar> it's night 0
17:37:03<+Palmar> no talking
17:38:07<+Palmar> Alright
17:38:12<+Palmar> it's day 1 now
17:38:14< syllogism> hi sandro are you town now?
17:38:15<+Palmar> majority lynch
17:38:18< sandroba> yes
17:38:20< Zephirdd> lol
17:38:24< sandroba> no bad ass though
17:38:27< syllogism> what's your role
17:38:30< sandroba> are you?
17:38:31< Zephirdd> so
17:38:36<+derpladee> "bad ass" means "diarrhea" in danish
17:38:36< Zephirdd> I'll die next night
17:38:37< sandroba> what's yours
17:38:41< Zephirdd> because someone poisoned me
17:38:41<+Palmar> you _have_ to lynch
17:38:43< Zephirdd> sooooo
17:38:52< risknuke> palmar who are they players
17:38:54< Zephirdd> you can lynch me and essentially have a no-lynch
17:38:56< Zephirdd> sup
17:38:57< Zephirdd> ?
17:38:57< syllogism> it's useful if you tell me
17:39:00< risknuke> I am going to use my super abillity
17:39:03< sandroba> huh?
17:39:04<+Palmar> risknuke, syllogism sandroba Zephirdd derpladee
17:39:06< risknuke> to lynch scum day 1
17:39:11< risknuke> it's zeph
17:39:13< sandroba> aren't you confirmed since you die?
17:39:14< Zephirdd> lol k
17:39:19< Zephirdd> I will die
17:39:21< Zephirdd> either way
17:39:24< sandroba> if you don't die we lynch you?
17:39:25<+derpladee> so we have to lynch and then scum shoots somebody and then we're at lylo or what
17:39:26< syllogism> wait what
17:39:30< Zephirdd> so if you want a no-lynch, lynch me
17:39:31<+derpladee> what is the best way to go about these closed setups?
17:39:31< syllogism> no dont lynch zeph
17:39:36< Zephirdd> okay
17:39:41< syllogism> sandroba can you please help me
17:39:45< syllogism> by telling your role
17:39:54<+derpladee> why aren't you on my back
17:39:56< sandroba> I have no role
17:40:00< syllogism> oh
17:40:08< Zephirdd> I dont either
17:40:14<+derpladee> does anybody have a role?
17:40:15<+derpladee> i'm vanilla
17:40:19< risknuke> vanilla
17:40:21< Zephirdd> lol zero vanilla
17:40:25< Zephirdd> and someone has a poison ability
17:40:27< sandroba> hmm
17:40:30< Zephirdd> which kills after the day
17:40:32< syllogism> the thing is
17:40:37< sandroba> you syllo?
17:40:52< syllogism> i guess it wont help
17:40:55< syllogism> unless i claim
17:40:58<+derpladee> so scum no night hit but he poisons some dude to die after a day?
17:41:00< sandroba> ...
17:41:01< syllogism> so i'm cop and got scum on sandroba
17:41:06< syllogism> and there are no sanities
17:41:10< Zephirdd> lol
17:41:12< risknuke> ##vote syllogism
17:41:15< syllogism> but i assume millers are a possibility
17:41:15<+derpladee> but that just seems silly
17:41:16< sandroba> hmmm
17:41:16< risknuke> die scum
17:41:25< Zephirdd> ##vote syllogism
17:41:29< Zephirdd> ##unvote syllogism
17:41:29< syllogism> are you stupid
17:41:30< sandroba> so miller/vanila?
17:41:35< sandroba> rofl
17:41:54< syllogism> well sandroba
17:41:58<+derpladee> milli vanilli
17:42:00< risknuke> kill syllogism
17:42:01< syllogism> how do you think we can not lynch you
17:42:04< risknuke> obvious scum
17:42:15< syllogism> if you lynch sandroba and he flips miller
17:42:18< syllogism> you know i'm town
17:42:21< syllogism> if he flips scum
17:42:22< syllogism> i'm town
17:42:25< syllogism> and i will get shot anyway
17:42:28< syllogism> thus optimal to lynch sandroba
17:42:30< sandroba> yeah basically
17:42:35<+derpladee> alright
17:42:39<+derpladee> ##vote sandroba
17:42:41< Zephirdd> huh
17:42:47< Zephirdd> makes sense
17:42:48< sandroba> well gl
17:42:54< syllogism> hmm
17:43:00< Zephirdd> ##vote sandroba
17:43:03< syllogism> i'm just delaying because
17:43:09<+Palmar> 2 votes for sandroba, 1 vote for syllo
17:43:10< risknuke> i think we're all millers
17:43:10< syllogism> i'm looking at the reactions above
17:43:18<+derpladee> all millers makes no sense
17:43:25<+derpladee> then you might as well just have a paranoid cop
17:43:29<+derpladee> and palmar said that cop was sane
17:43:29< risknuke> everyone beeing miller has palmar written all over it
17:43:35< risknuke> exacly
17:43:38< risknuke> palmar is mindfucking us
17:43:42< risknuke> somehow
17:43:45< risknuke> and I think this is it
17:43:53< syllogism> anyway, once i get shot tonight, assuming game doesnt end
17:43:53<+derpladee> if mod is a troll then we all lose anyway
17:44:00< sandroba> k wait
17:44:01< risknuke> ##vote derpladee
17:44:03< sandroba> don't lynch me
17:44:04< syllogism> lynch maybe zeph or
17:44:06< sandroba> we auto lose
17:44:07< risknuke> I know it's you
17:44:11< sandroba> if we lynch me
17:44:11< syllogism> how do we auto lose
17:44:13< Zephirdd> lynching me = no-lynch btw
17:44:21< sandroba> if zeph is not scum
17:44:24< sandroba> he dies
17:44:27< sandroba> another guy dies
17:44:29< Zephirdd> I'll die either way
17:44:35< sandroba> and you lynch me
17:44:36< sandroba> gg
17:44:39<+derpladee> uh
17:44:40<+derpladee> lol
17:44:40< risknuke> trust me on this one, lets kill derpladee
17:44:43<+derpladee> ##vote Zephirdd
17:44:48< syllogism> why are you lynching zeph
17:44:52<+derpladee> because he's dead anyway
17:44:56< syllogism> how
17:44:59< Zephirdd> poison
17:45:00<+derpladee> he's poisoned
17:45:04< Zephirdd> I'll die by the end of the day
17:45:13< syllogism> why would we want to nolynch
17:45:14< sandroba> ...
17:45:17<+derpladee> you're a cop
17:45:19< risknuke> kill derpladee
17:45:20<+derpladee> check someone
17:45:22< syllogism> but i will get shot
17:45:24< sandroba> can we no lynch?
17:45:25<+derpladee> oh
17:45:28<+derpladee> but how do you know
17:45:28<+Palmar> (you're not allowed to no-lynch)
17:45:33<+derpladee> that you will get shot?
17:45:35< Zephirdd> I am the no-lynch
17:45:35< syllogism> uh
17:45:37< Zephirdd> derp
17:45:37< syllogism> because i'm cop?
17:45:38<+derpladee> maybe scum is poisoner
17:45:41< syllogism> oh
17:45:44< syllogism> good point
17:45:52<+derpladee> (and one i made earlier too!)
17:45:52< risknuke> guys
17:46:04< sandroba> well you get another check
17:46:04< risknuke> kill derpladee
17:46:09< sandroba> uh u die...
17:46:10< sandroba> wtf
17:46:18< syllogism> risk why
17:46:18<+derpladee> risknuke, why kill me over Zephirdd?
17:46:23< risknuke> gut feeling
17:46:27<+derpladee> ##vote risknuke
17:46:30< Zephirdd> lol
17:46:31<+derpladee> ##vote Zephirdd
17:46:36< Zephirdd> wat
17:46:37< syllogism> sandroba what do you think
17:46:41< Zephirdd> you can only vote one
17:46:42< Zephirdd> >_>
17:46:43< sandroba> kill zeph I think
17:46:47< Hassybaby> (Palmar, what have you done)
17:46:48<+derpladee> yea i am voting Zephirdd
17:46:56<+Serejai> Playerlist please :o
17:47:06< syllogism> well
17:47:08<+Palmar> derpladee, sandroba syllogism risknuke Zephirdd
17:47:10< sandroba> but I'm leanin derp scum
17:47:10<+Serejai> ty~
17:47:18< syllogism> it's 5 players so one sane cop doesnt make sense
17:47:27< syllogism> i'm assuming millers
17:47:33< risknuke> derpladee is scum, look how quiet he is
17:47:39<+derpladee> what if syllogism is just trolling with his cop claim, if anybody counter claimed it would be 50/50 and if not then he'll check somebody else tomorrow and we'll lynch one of them
17:47:50< syllogism> uh how would i know there are millers then
17:47:54< syllogism> if we lynch sandroba and he flips miller
17:47:55< risknuke> I got an idea for tomorrow
17:47:55< syllogism> are you stupid
17:47:59< sandroba> kinda stupid no sanitites + no cops
17:48:00<+derpladee> but we're not lynching sandro
17:48:04< risknuke> but it wont g otill tomorrow
17:48:08< risknuke> cause its derp
17:48:09<+derpladee> because zephird is dead
17:48:16< Zephirdd> ^
17:48:20< syllogism> ok fine lets nolynch by lynching zeph and hope there is no NK
17:48:23<+derpladee> risknuke, stop your gut feeling shit
17:48:26< risknuke> fools
17:48:33<+derpladee> tell me how that's helping anybody that you're spamming gutfeelings?
17:48:33< sandroba> i think no lynch is optimal
17:48:35< syllogism> we can lynch derp tomorrow
17:48:36< syllogism> ##vote Zephirdd
17:48:40<+derpladee> ##vote Zephirdd
17:48:43< sandroba> ##vote zeph
17:48:48< Zephirdd> 3 votes
17:48:50< Zephirdd> I dead
17:48:58< Zephirdd> HAH I WAS JESTER LOLOLO k just kidding
17:49:07<+derpladee> what's jester
17:49:09<+derpladee> village idiot?
17:49:12< Zephirdd> y
17:49:14< risknuke> wins by getting killed
17:49:21<+Palmar> zephird the vanilla town miller is now dead.
17:49:24< syllogism> cool
17:49:27< risknuke> told you we are all millers
17:49:27<+Palmar> shut up
17:49:28<+Palmar> night 2
17:49:34<+Palmar> send in your night actions
17:50:48<+Palmar> I mean night1
17:50:49<+Palmar> anyway
17:50:58<+Palmar> It's now day 2, no one is dead.
17:51:08<+derpladee> is anybody poisoned?
17:51:11< sandroba> I'm poisoned
17:51:35< syllogism> so wait
17:51:36< risknuke> kill sandroba
17:51:54< syllogism> how many scum would a setup like this have
17:51:56< sandroba> you got checks syllo
17:51:59< syllogism> yes
17:52:02<+derpladee> 1
17:52:05< syllogism> i got another scum on risk
17:52:23<+derpladee> if there were 2 scum then we'd be even with now = gg
17:52:31< risknuke> syllo it's just palmar messing with us
17:52:32< syllogism> so thing is
17:52:41< risknuke> he said the hint all cops are sane
17:52:42< syllogism> do we think everyone is a miller except scum and me
17:52:51< risknuke> yepp
17:53:09< sandroba> hmm it's possible
17:53:13< risknuke> palmar wanted to see you shout I caught a scum day 1
17:53:18< sandroba> but not necessarily true
17:53:18< syllogism> anyway, no one else is poisoned besides sandroba?
17:53:21< risknuke> It reeks of palmar fishyness
17:53:27< risknuke> i think sandroba is lying
17:53:34< syllogism> why
17:53:41< syllogism> if he doesnt die
17:53:43< syllogism> he is scum
17:53:46< syllogism> are you stupid
17:53:51< syllogism> unless it's a 2scum setup
17:53:55< syllogism> it's a gambit that cant work
17:54:11< syllogism> sandroba you are being kind of quiet though
17:54:13< risknuke> maybe scum got poision day 1
17:54:14< sandroba> hmm I wonder how scum can win
17:54:16< risknuke> an kill day 2
17:54:20< sandroba> with delayed kp
17:54:23< syllogism> yes i dont get it unless it's 2 scum
17:54:32< syllogism> unless
17:54:33< risknuke> trust me on this
17:54:37< risknuke> kill sandroba
17:54:38< syllogism> the plan was for cop to derp
17:54:51< syllogism> is derp alive
17:54:53< sandroba> like we can simply lynch me me
17:54:53< syllogism> why isnt he talking
17:54:54< risknuke> I just wanted to see who would claim to get poisioned today
17:54:58< risknuke> and kill that person all along
17:54:59< sandroba> risk
17:55:02< syllogism> risknuke: ?
17:55:03< sandroba> why am i lying?
17:55:14<+derpladee> yea i'm alive
17:55:14< syllogism> derpladee?
17:55:16< risknuke> cause you might have 1 night kill and 1 poison
17:55:18< syllogism> why arent you helping
17:55:18<+derpladee> my brother was just here sorry
17:55:43< syllogism> oh you mean they can choose between those two?
17:55:45<+derpladee> since it's not sandro
17:55:49<+derpladee> it's either syllo or risk
17:55:50<+Palmar> (I think it's only fair everyone knows, this is lylo)
17:55:53< syllogism> lol
17:56:00<+derpladee> oh
17:56:02< syllogism> well
17:56:03< risknuke> doesn't matter look if I'm right we kill sandroba and we kill scum today
17:56:10<+derpladee> well then it could be sandro anyway
17:56:11< risknuke> if im wrong scum will poison tomoroow
17:56:13< syllogism> what are you basing it on though
17:56:15< risknuke> and we can still kill derp
17:56:19<+derpladee> risknuke, lylo there is no tomorrow
17:56:22<+derpladee> we have to lynch
17:56:31< risknuke> ##vote sandroba
17:56:33< sandroba> risk pls share info
17:56:39< risknuke> im vanilla townies
17:56:53< syllogism> since it's lylo, there must be 2 scum
17:56:54< risknuke> see if
17:56:58< risknuke> scum wasnt sandroba
17:56:59< syllogism> based on connections
17:57:01< risknuke> he would had hammered
17:57:08< syllogism> shouldnt it be sandroba + derp?
17:57:21< risknuke> yes
17:57:38< syllogism> unless it's a lylo because scum can choose to NK or poison
17:57:41< sandroba> 2 scum doesn't make sense
17:57:45< syllogism> but i dont see the point of that?
17:57:56< risknuke> it can't be 2 scum we would had lost
17:57:56<+derpladee> it's lylo because there are 3 townies 1 scum, and we have to lynch
17:57:59< syllogism> derp is being worthless once again
17:58:08< syllogism> oh =P
17:58:09< risknuke> syllo help me kill sandroba
17:58:13<+derpladee> how is this useless?!
17:58:18< syllogism> but poison is delayed
17:58:27< syllogism> but i guess it doesnt matter
17:58:34< syllogism> sandroba you are kind of being unhelpful
17:58:38< syllogism> but
17:58:49< syllogism> it wouldnt be lylo if you werent poisoned
17:58:54< syllogism> right?
17:58:58< syllogism> thus it's derp or risk
17:58:59< sandroba> risk
17:59:06< sandroba> can you tell me what you know
17:59:10< risknuke> I know nothing
17:59:17< sandroba> since I can't see any sense in it
17:59:21< risknuke> i got a instinct telling me you fake claim posioned
17:59:21< sandroba> right now
17:59:30< syllogism> but if he fake claimed, no one is going to die?
17:59:32< syllogism> are you saying that?
17:59:34< risknuke> and listen
17:59:37< syllogism> it cant be lylo if no one dies
17:59:41<+derpladee> ##vote risknuke
17:59:41< risknuke> cause i think the scum
17:59:43< syllogism> unless scum can choose between kp or poison
17:59:44< risknuke> got 1 poision
17:59:46< risknuke> and 1 kill
17:59:48< risknuke> fool
17:59:56<+derpladee> he already poisoned 2
18:00:10<+derpladee> and you're speculating about shizzle, in the end it makes perfect sense that lynch would come down to two people
18:00:13<+derpladee> 50/50
18:00:16< syllogism> well this is a dumb setup
18:00:21< syllogism> sandroba you arent helping at all
18:00:24< syllogism> why wouldnt i lynch you
18:00:28< sandroba> iI'm thinking
18:00:33< risknuke> we don't know the setup
18:00:35<+derpladee> because it's not lylo unless he actually is poisoned
18:00:40< sandroba> wtf is up with risk
18:00:46< sandroba> he doesn't seem scum
18:00:52< sandroba> so it must be derp
18:01:05< syllogism> well this is basically a setup win
18:01:05<+derpladee> risk has been mindlessly tunneling me day1
18:01:09< syllogism> if it's not derp
18:01:17< risknuke> it's called pressuring
18:01:18< syllogism> ##vote derpladee
18:01:24< syllogism> ##unvote
18:01:30<+derpladee> it's not tunneling when you're just spouting nonsense about gut feelings
18:01:32<+derpladee> it's just spam
18:01:32< risknuke> vote sandroba
18:01:35<+derpladee> ##unvote
18:01:42< syllogism> ##vote derpladee
18:01:45< sandroba> ##vote derpladee
18:01:46< syllogism> yawn i'm done
18:01:49<+derpladee> lol
18:02:05< sandroba> -_-
18:02:06<+derpladee> ##vote risknuke
18:02:09< risknuke> 3 need to lynch
18:02:10< Zephirdd>
18:02:13<+Palmar> 2 votes for derpladee
18:02:17< risknuke> I want to lynch the guy that claimed poisoned
18:02:19< syllogism> lynch derp
18:02:23< sandroba> can't be risk derp sorry
18:02:29<+derpladee> how is that
18:02:30< risknuke> it's sandroba
18:02:31< syllogism> risk would have hammered
18:02:32< sandroba> if it was risk he would nail
18:02:36< syllogism> it has to be derp or sandroba now
18:02:36<+derpladee> alright
18:02:37< sandroba> die
18:02:40< syllogism> and sandroba didnt kill me
18:02:40<+derpladee> well then it's sandro i guess
18:02:43<+derpladee> ##vote sandroba
18:02:47< syllogism> risk
18:02:49< syllogism> lynch derp please
18:02:52<+derpladee> really, can we get this over with?
18:02:53< syllogism> i'd rather have sandroba win anyway
18:02:54< risknuke> why?
18:02:57< syllogism> than derp
18:03:00< syllogism> it's more likely derp
18:03:00< risknuke> what makes you think its him over sandroba?
18:03:07< syllogism> because the setup is dumb then
18:03:08<+Palmar> 1 vote sandroba, 2 vote prplhz
18:03:15< syllogism> and palmar rigged it
18:03:16<+Palmar> risk has not voted
18:03:18<+derpladee> protip: it's not me
18:03:21< syllogism> and sandroba felt like not killing me
18:03:22< risknuke> the poision doesn't make sense unless its sandroba
18:03:22< sandroba> just vote derp risk
18:03:25< syllogism> ##unvote
18:03:32< sandroba> ...
18:03:41< risknuke> kill sandroba
18:03:46< risknuke> and take this home
18:03:49< syllogism> why would they poison though
18:03:52< syllogism> if they can just nk
18:03:54<+derpladee> didn't i say this yesterday, people would rather vote townie me than scum somebody else because then they lose because of me instead of losing to me
18:03:54<+derpladee> lol
18:03:58<+derpladee> or was it the day before
18:04:00< risknuke> because they just got 1 of each
18:04:04< risknuke> so scum needs to posions
18:04:05< syllogism> but 2 were poisoned
18:04:09< risknuke> and then shoot
18:04:09< syllogism> err
18:04:12< syllogism> 1 maybe
18:04:17< risknuke> and fakeclaim poision on him/herself
18:04:23< risknuke> to avoid sucpision
18:04:25< syllogism> ##vote sandroba
18:04:28< syllogism> ##unvote
18:04:31<+derpladee> if it is sandroba then we're not at lylo
18:04:34< sandroba> derp is scum, can we get this over with pls
18:04:35<+derpladee> are we?
18:04:49<+derpladee> unless he has a shot and that's just stupid
18:04:51< risknuke> derp do you want to get killed?
18:04:57< syllogism> if they've 1 shot 1 poison
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18:04:57<+Palmar> 1vote for sandroba, 1 vote for prplhz
18:04:58< sandroba> sigh obviously it's not me
18:05:05<+derpladee> yea it's not sandroba
18:05:09< Zephirdd> ^risknuke
18:05:10< syllogism> ok fine sandroba you can win this
18:05:11<+derpladee> we can ALL agree on this
18:05:13< Zephirdd> get your names right Palmar
18:05:15< syllogism> ##vote derpladee
18:05:24<+Palmar> ?
18:05:30< Zephirdd> you said prplhz twice
18:05:31<+Palmar> 2 votes for prplhz, 1 vote for sandroba
18:05:32< Zephirdd> lol
18:05:36< Zephirdd> /facepalm
18:05:40<+Palmar> derpladee = prplhz
18:05:41< Zephirdd> OH
18:05:46<+Serejai> Zeph so dumb
18:05:47< Zephirdd> /double facepalm
18:05:48< Hassybaby> noob
18:05:51<+Palmar> it's his TL account name
18:05:51< sandroba> risk can you get your head out of your ass pls
18:06:10<+derpladee> ##vote risknuke
18:06:12< syllogism> the setup doesnt really make sense though
18:06:13<+derpladee> only thing that makes sense to me
18:06:15<+derpladee> since it's not sandro
18:06:16< syllogism> unless you are scum sandroba =P
18:06:20< risknuke> it can't be derp
18:06:23< risknuke> his to stupid
18:06:25<+derpladee> LOL
18:06:27<+derpladee> IT'S NOBODY
18:06:29< risknuke> cause it's him or sandroba
18:06:37< risknuke> and he said sandroba is cleared after that
18:06:39<+derpladee> it's not sandroba
18:06:45< risknuke> to dumb to be scum
18:06:48< syllogism> how does it make sense to have 1 cop, 3 millers, 1 scum with poison AND nk
18:06:50< syllogism> that's just a troll setup
18:06:50<+derpladee> then we wouldn't be at lylo unless sandro had a gun
18:06:55< sandroba> of course it's not me it's u
18:07:00<+derpladee> who is "u" ?
18:07:05< sandroba> you
18:07:06< risknuke> lol this is a closed game with a cop where everyone is a miller
18:07:12< risknuke> how is this not a troll setup
18:07:13< syllogism> ##unvote
18:07:16<+derpladee> WELL IF EVERYBODY THINKS IT IS ME COULD THEY PLEASE VOTE ME
18:07:22< risknuke> ##unvote
18:07:26< risknuke> ##vote sandroba
18:07:29< risknuke> kill sandroba
18:07:31< Hassybaby> (this game is amazing)
18:07:31< risknuke> now
18:07:33< syllogism> haha
18:07:48< syllogism> why didnt you kill me sandroba
18:07:49<+Palmar> I have no ide what the vote count is
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18:07:58<+derpladee> 1 sandro and that's it i think
18:08:06< sandroba> because I can't
18:08:13<+derpladee> ##vote syllogism
18:08:18< syllogism> lol
18:08:20< sandroba> or maybe because you rock <3
18:08:22<+derpladee> yea i'm done here
18:08:25< risknuke> please
18:08:26< risknuke> kill
18:08:26< sandroba> either one of those
18:08:28< risknuke> sandroba
18:08:35<+derpladee> risknuke, so you think sandroba has a nk?
18:08:35< risknuke> because the cop isnt lying
18:08:38< risknuke> it's not me
18:08:40< layabout> so this is what hell is like...
18:08:44< risknuke> and derp is to stupid
18:08:47<+derpladee> didn't syllo get guilty on both sandro and risknuke?
18:08:58< syllogism> yes that just means we've millers everywhere
18:09:06< risknuke> and I called it
18:09:11< risknuke> cause palmar is a troll
18:09:18< sandroba> risk what's your beef with me I can't be scum you idiot
18:09:19< Hassybaby> (lay, shush, this is hilarious)
18:09:26< syllogism> why cant you be scum
18:09:26< risknuke> why can't you be scum?
18:09:32<+derpladee> risknuke, do you think that sandroba has a gun?
18:09:33<+derpladee> or what
18:09:34< sandroba> cuz I'm dead
18:09:38< sandroba> tomorrow
18:09:39<+derpladee> otherwise we wouldn't be at a mod confirmed lylo
18:09:42< sandroba> or it's not lylo
18:09:47< risknuke> no you "claim" you were posioned
18:09:47< syllogism> but what if scum had 1 poison and 1 kp
18:09:48<+derpladee> and Palmar said it was lylo
18:09:53< syllogism> and you fake claimed poison today
18:09:54< risknuke> but this whole posion business is fishy
18:09:56< syllogism> because it's lylo
18:09:58<+derpladee> oh
18:10:01< sandroba> still would not be lylo
18:10:07< syllogism> why
18:10:10<+derpladee> yes it would?
18:10:10< syllogism> you would shoot tonight
18:10:12< syllogism> and then it's 2 left
18:10:28< sandroba> since killing me wouldn't be lylo
18:10:28< syllogism> ##vote sandroba
18:10:33<+derpladee> ##vote sandroba
18:10:44< sandroba> sigh
18:10:46<+Palmar> that's the hammer'
18:10:57<+Palmar> Sandroba the mafia poisoner has been lynched.
18:10:57<+derpladee> SO SPILL IT
18:10:58<+Palmar> gg
18:10:59<+derpladee> lol
18:10:59< syllogism> lol
18:10:59< sandroba> palmar fucking bastard mod me to death
18:11:02< risknuke> pwned
18:11:02< sandroba> rofl
18:11:07< Zephirdd> Sandroba? :O
18:11:11<+Palmar> This is the setup:
18:11:11< risknuke> I am awesome.
18:11:12<+Palmar> 1 Sane Cop
18:11:12<+Palmar> 3 Millers
18:11:12<+Palmar> 1 Mafia Poisoner
18:11:12<+Palmar> Night 2, the mafia gains a KP to prevent town from just repeatedly lynching the guy who claims poison.
18:11:14<+Palmar> Idea is that the poisoned person is cleared, giving town a 25% chance to hit scum day 1 (3 town, 1 cleared through poison, and one mafia)
18:11:22<+Palmar> day 2 mafia will either not claim or claim poison, clearing another townie, resulting in a 50/50
18:11:24<+Palmar> I did not expect town to kill the poisoned guy, forgot to take town's desire to no-lynch into account.
18:11:28<+Palmar> The cop is basically just a free claim, otherwise useless.
18:11:28< sandroba> he gave me a shot
18:11:29< Zephirdd> I was sure risk was mafia
18:11:32< sandroba> then took it away
18:11:38<+Palmar> the shot was bastard modded in
18:11:39< sandroba> then gave me again
18:11:40<+Palmar> lol
18:11:50<+Palmar> cause I never thought town would lynch the poison claim
18:11:51<+Palmar> rofl
18:11:53< syllogism> haha
18:11:55< syllogism> gj
18:12:00< risknuke> you may touch me
18:12:07< Hassybaby> ahaha
18:12:09<+Palmar> in hindsight
18:12:21< Zephirdd> haha
18:12:22< Zephirdd> :D
18:12:27< sandroba> scum is so tense
18:12:27<+derpladee> i like these games where Palmar just wings it and changes roles midways
18:12:30<+derpladee>
18:12:32< Zephirdd> I gave the lynch-me idea
18:12:33<+derpladee> very refreshing
18:12:37< Hassybaby> you know what
18:12:37< sandroba> fucking risk woudnt claim poison
18:12:41<+Palmar> eys
18:12:43< Zephirdd> ROFL
18:12:46<+Palmar> that was actually brilliang
18:12:46< sandroba> so I could deliver my theory
18:12:48< Hassybaby> fuck TL Mafia, I'm so glad i signed up, just for this
18:12:51< sandroba> yeah
18:12:52<+Palmar> I did not expect that
18:12:56< sandroba> fuck oyu risk
18:13:01<+Palmar> very clever play from risk
18:13:02< risknuke> <3
18:13:15< sandroba> my theory is that it was only lylo cuz of 2 poisons
18:13:20< risknuke> I was actually fairly close to give in
18:13:24< sandroba> and thus derp is mafia
18:13:30< risknuke> and just lynch derp
18:13:31<+Palmar> and you knew he was scum because you were poisoned
18:13:33<+Palmar> but didn't reveal it
18:13:40<+Palmar> that was surprisingly intuitive play
18:13:41< sandroba> well
18:13:43<+Palmar> I liked it
18:13:44< Zephirdd> heh
18:13:46< sandroba> it was a jump
18:13:49<+Palmar> yes
18:13:51<+Palmar> always is
18:13:53<+Palmar> in closed minis
18:13:55< sandroba> cuz scum could have 2 poisons
18:14:01<+Palmar> yep
18:14:05< sandroba> like I planned on theorizing
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18:14:14<+derpladee> uh so risknuke was poisoned day2?
18:14:18< risknuke> I was?
18:14:20<+derpladee> or what
18:14:22<+Palmar> yes
18:14:25< Zephirdd> What
18:14:26< sandroba> lol yeah
18:14:27< Zephirdd> risk
18:14:27<+derpladee> uhmn
18:14:28< Zephirdd> you
18:14:29< risknuke> lol
18:14:30< sandroba> FUCK
18:14:30< Zephirdd> didnt know?
18:14:32< risknuke> no
18:14:32< Zephirdd> LOL
18:14:34<+Palmar> read your pms
18:14:35<+Palmar> rofl
18:14:35< risknuke> I missed that
18:14:36< Zephirdd> LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
18:14:38<+derpladee> SURPRISINGLY INTUITIVE
18:14:39< risknuke> hahahahahahaha
18:14:40< syllogism> AHHAHAHA
18:14:41< sandroba> YOU DIDN'T READ AND FUCKED ME OVER
18:14:43< sandroba> LOLOLOLOL
18:14:44< Hassybaby> ahahaha
18:14:48< Zephirdd> COMPLETELY INTUITIVE
18:14:48< syllogism> i thought that was too clever
18:14:50< Zephirdd> LOL
18:14:55<+Palmar> <risknuke> okey
18:14:56<+Palmar> <Palmar> you're vanilla town
18:14:56<+Palmar> <Palmar> you have been poisoned, you will die night 2
18:14:56<+Palmar> <Palmar> you have been poisoned, you will die night 2
18:14:56<+Palmar> <Palmar> you have been poisoned, you will die night 2
18:14:56< risknuke> I don't get a sound buzz
18:14:56<+Palmar> <Palmar> you have been poisoned, you will die night 2
18:14:58<+Palmar> <Palmar> you have been poisoned, you will die night 2
18:15:00<+Palmar> <Palmar> If you missed it
18:15:04< Zephirdd> HAHA
18:15:05<+Palmar> rofl
18:15:10< Hassybaby> AHAHAHAHA
18:15:10< risknuke> hahahahaha
18:15:10<+Palmar> then you don't get any credit
18:15:10<+derpladee> this is too funny
18:15:11<+Palmar> hahahaha
18:15:11< Zephirdd> luuuuuuuuucky
18:15:15<+Palmar> you just fucking fail
18:15:16< sandroba> ROFL
18:15:17<+Palmar> lol
18:15:19< sandroba> FF
18:15:24< Zephirdd> I'm laughing hard irl
18:15:24<+derpladee> i'm gonna put this log on forums
18:15:28<+Palmar> rofl
18:15:32<+Palmar> anyway
18:15:33< Zephirdd> do it
18:15:33< risknuke> best game ever
18:15:34<+Palmar> I need to run guys
18:15:37< Zephirdd> the brilliant play from risk