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On November 15 2011 17:38 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2011 17:11 hiro protagonist wrote:I know you where trolling  Im with you Erandorr, I would like to start this game off on the right foot. So lets lay down some frame work: Towns goal for day 1 should be to create a good town atmosphere. What is good town atmosphere you ask? Well there is the obvious stuff like dont lurk, post with content etc. But there is less obvious stuff like pointless arguing, spam, and aggressive tunneling that Have haunted TL towns in the past. Those things only further scum objectives. I will be taking a hard stance on anyone that derails positive discussion this game. Lets start off on the right foot! Then tell me why you think Palmar's plan to lynch wherebugsgo on day1 is good. I am really interested in that.
How bought this, tell my why its bad to bring up lynch based on logic? How about discussing the merits of such a lynch? A side affect of "Palmars plan" stirs discussion, how is that bad? In your two post so far, you have only commented on other players post, without providing any content of you own.
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On November 15 2011 17:11 hiro protagonist wrote:I know you where trolling Im with you Erandorr, I would like to start this game off on the right foot. So lets lay down some frame work: Towns goal for day 1 should be to create a good town atmosphere. What is good town atmosphere you ask? Well there is the obvious stuff like dont lurk, post with content etc. But there is less obvious stuff like pointless arguing, spam, and aggressive tunneling that Have haunted TL towns in the past. Those things only further scum objectives. I will be taking a hard stance on anyone that derails positive discussion this game. Lets start off on the right foot!
Whoa how about you start answering my question instead of ignoring it ? ^.^
What I said before was really not a big deal, just some light teasing but you specificly said you are not trolling. Now if you are not, why would you not answer my question instead of giving us the usual groundrules bullshit?
"Lets start this off on the right foot " as in lets ignore what has been said before?
On November 15 2011 18:14 hiro protagonist wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2011 17:38 prplhz wrote:On November 15 2011 17:11 hiro protagonist wrote:I know you where trolling Im with you Erandorr, I would like to start this game off on the right foot. So lets lay down some frame work: Towns goal for day 1 should be to create a good town atmosphere. What is good town atmosphere you ask? Well there is the obvious stuff like dont lurk, post with content etc. But there is less obvious stuff like pointless arguing, spam, and aggressive tunneling that Have haunted TL towns in the past. Those things only further scum objectives. I will be taking a hard stance on anyone that derails positive discussion this game. Lets start off on the right foot! Then tell me why you think Palmar's plan to lynch wherebugsgo on day1 is good. I am really interested in that. How bought this, tell my why its bad to bring up lynch based on logic? How about discussing the merits of such a lynch? A side affect of "Palmars plan" stirs discussion, how is that bad? In your two post so far, you have only commented on other players post, without providing any content of you own.
And why are you so ultra defensive O.o
Prl asked you a completely sensible question and you shout at him instead of discussing which you said was one goal of your post on bugs. Thats basicly contradicting yourself. Prl as well as everybody else has to provide content, of course but that does not mean you have the right to shout at him when you don't provide content especially since I specificly asked you a question .
Oh and just to be clear I think it would be absolutely retarded to lynch Bugs like that.
This is a mini, we really can't afford to shoot someone based on meta alone. I know wbg can be a bit difficult, but he is not a bad player.
Brilliant Idea : Lets see him post first, analyze his posts and if he is scum we make a case that proves it. I know this concept seems strange but I feel like we should try it out .
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I think any policy lynch is stupid, and LAW (lynch-all-wherebugsgos) is one of the more stupid policies to lynch by. You want to just lock down the lynch on him without any discussion? Then how are we supposed to catch scum? If we lynch him based on nothing (he hasn't posted in the thread yet) then there's like 22% chance that he will be scum. That means that you want to sacrifice the following:
1 cycle of discussion
1 townie from NK
... in exchange for the following:
22% chance to hit a scum, a whopping 78% chance to hit a townie.
Tell me why you think this is a good deal? I am quite aware that Palmar is just trying to make discussion, so am I, now lets discuss.
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btw the rest of you guys can post too ^.^ its allowed
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We are not policy lynching anyone, mainly because even if it was a good idea, we can't afford to in this format. Also there is a 50% chance we have a cop and there are no millers or framers, which means policy lynches are even more retarded.
Meapak's posts caught my attention so far, if you are unhappy about the current state of town, you have to point it to a better direction, you are just complaining without actually being helpful.
I also want to hear from more from hiro. You say you knew errandor was trolling. Explain to me how that was obvious to you, while you argued the merits of blind lynching wbg.
@jay Lynch is not done in a random fashion, it's aimed to hit mafia and produce information. I assume this is your first game? If so please go read some of the previous game and get an idea of how things work. I'm tired of mafia skirting by using noobness as an excuse. As of now you don't give me the feeling you have the town's best interest in mind.
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So how about we try a completely random lynch on day 1? We can use some external site to just randomize the lynch and go for it. Everyone up for it?
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ITT: Palmar has had his account taken over by Ace
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Wiggles and Bugs have not posted in this game at all. This is a Mini and Inactivity will destroy us(dunno if you guys knew that) so please post before this turns into GMs newbie mafia. Same goes for basicly everyoen else too (except me because im trying this time ! )
Palmar will you stop if I say pretty please? This is a mini and the thread is not going so fast. You said its very clear for everyone to see if you are Scum or not. That may be the case if you provided something to go on , which you are not doing and as you know thats not the exactly the greatest townplay. You rolling over again cause Scum is boring?
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Wow, this is going really slow. Here's something to get people talking:
If you could pick one player (Not yourself) to make mayor (decides day 1 lynch + a couple night's worth of protection), who would it be and why?
I would personally pick MZ. He's level headed, and a decent scum-hunter, so I don't think he'd do anything crazy with a day 1 lynch, and the protection would come in handy with letting him live until later when he could scum-hunt more effectively.
Back to you guys.
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On November 16 2011 03:40 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Wow, this is going really slow. Here's something to get people talking:
If you could pick one player (Not yourself) to make mayor (decides day 1 lynch + a couple night's worth of protection), who would it be and why?
I would personally pick MZ. He's level headed, and a decent scum-hunter, so I don't think he'd do anything crazy with a day 1 lynch, and the protection would come in handy with letting him live until later when he could scum-hunt more effectively.
Back to you guys.
Or you could talk about the game. As in waht you are proposing that does not really help us but instead wastes a ton of time. Maybe MZ would make a great Mayor in general, but his only post was shit. Why not talk about what is already there and how do you think your suggestion could help in any way? In my opinion it does not get anything going because it in no way puts pressure on Scum or forces them to reveal information Turned around it also does not help establishing townies either.
For example I respect Sandro a lot (because he helps me with my dwarf fortress ! ) and he is a good Scumhunter. But I could say he would make a great mayor if I was Town OR Scum because it is not related to this game and the alignments and you seem to ignore what people(in this case MZ) already did until now.
At this point I actually just want to lynch the Lurker who produced the least amount of content at the end of this day. Anyone else like that Idea?
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zzz also if I am the most active person in a game of mafia then something is going really really wrong
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Erandorr is on to something.
You guys all suck. jaybrundage has a valid excuse but people like Mr. Wiggles and Palmar don't. Stop being derps.
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I guess this will be one of Palmar's off games then.
Anyway, I'd feel good about lynching Wiggles right now. While it's true that the game has been slow there's still stuff to talk about. Wiggles decided to ignore the whole Palmar thing and told everyone to sit back and talk about completely irelevant things for no appparent purpose.
Also I'd feel grand lynching hiro.
On November 15 2011 17:11 hiro protagonist wrote:I know you where trolling Im with you Erandorr, I would like to start this game off on the right foot. So lets lay down some frame work: Towns goal for day 1 should be to create a good town atmosphere. What is good town atmosphere you ask? Well there is the obvious stuff like dont lurk, post with content etc. But there is less obvious stuff like pointless arguing, spam, and aggressive tunneling that Have haunted TL towns in the past. Those things only further scum objectives. I will be taking a hard stance on anyone that derails positive discussion this game. Lets start off on the right foot!
This post is so unbelievable worthless that my mind has a hard time comprehending it. This is like a textbook example of contributing without contributing and fluff posting. The part in red had me laughing it was so hypocritical.
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On November 15 2011 19:12 Erandorr wrote:
Whoa how about you start answering my question instead of ignoring it ? ^.^
I tend not to answer questions about me that can be answered by reading my post 
On November 15 2011 10:18 hiro protagonist wrote:
No its not. Palmar is spot on about WBG's play. His overly aggressive play does not create good town atmosphere IMO. I would vote on him just on that alone. I would hope that the threat of a meta lynch would change his style.
On November 15 2011 19:12 Erandorr wrote:
And why are you so ultra defensive O.o
Prl asked you a completely sensible question and you shout at him instead of discussing which you said was one goal of your post on bugs. Thats basicly contradicting yourself. Prl as well as everybody else has to provide content, of course but that does not mean you have the right to shout at him when you don't provide content especially since I specificly asked you a question .
Shout at him? I was just typing 0_o. He ask a question about something I did not do. I did not place a vote on WBG. I agree that It would be dumb to try and lynch someone that has not posted yet. But whats wrong about threatening to lynch someone if they play like they did in past games that have been anti town? I got nothing against bugs, but there is nothing wrong about encouraging him to change his meta a bit for the good of this game is there? hopefully that answers your question.
On November 15 2011 21:33 sandroba wrote:
Explain to me how that was obvious to you, while you argued the merits of blind lynching wbg.
Again, putting words in my mouth. I argued lynching Wbg if he plays like his usually overly aggressive/tunneling self. No where do I say we should blind lynch anyone. 0_o
So, with that out of the way, I would like to here more from Meapak, as he is the only one that has not said something game relevant yet. Also jaybrundage, dont be shy, We know your new to the game so we wont hold it against you. tell us what you think of the other player so far ^_^
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Also WBG, it's time to show your ugly mug in here.
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EBWOP: ninja'd by Meapak.
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On November 16 2011 04:59 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
This post is so unbelievable worthless that my mind has a hard time comprehending it. This is like a textbook example of contributing without contributing and fluff posting. The part in red had me laughing it was so hypocritical.
How about the content in your posts before this one 0_0 ? who had more to say?
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No really Meapak, whats wrong with what I said, and how was it fluff? Was it not relevant?
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