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only had a quick glance the game so far but I agree with LaL and will catch up fairly quickly | ||
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Bad vibes also this - On November 16 2011 00:22 Sabin010 wrote: I have seen to many games where we lose our cop or doc first day and end up wasting our time as the mob picks us off. On November 16 2011 01:06 Sabin010 wrote: This is my first game and im not sure of all the terms. I thought scum, mob, and mafia are the same. | ||
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On November 16 2011 05:30 Sabin010 wrote: I've played many live games in my house, but never on TL. Vote as you will, but just because I make implications in my posts does not make me a liar. Magic! | ||
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On November 16 2011 06:26 GreYMisT wrote: So it works in games other than LotR mafia as well... Na that was a one time thing we are not in middle earth any more | ||
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On November 16 2011 09:03 sinani206 wrote: wtf ##Vote: chaoser Your not going to lurk the first day, come out of no where and then vote chaoser without reason. FoS sinani206 | ||
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On November 16 2011 15:52 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: @Drazerk + Show Spoiler + On November 16 2011 05:13 Drazerk wrote: ##Vote: Sabin010 Bad vibes also this - On November 16 2011 09:06 Drazerk wrote: Your not going to lurk the first day, come out of no where and then vote chaoser without reason. FoS sinani206 And his filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=107918 No matter how bad a reason I gave a reason. There is no reason to give no reason for a vote personally I believe Sabin screwed up and I am following that up by voting for him. | ||
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On November 16 2011 17:33 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: Calling out lurkers? Sure thing! And then we have hyshes: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=132738 As mentioned above, there is also Coagulation. I may very well be missing some, but hyshes and risk stood out to me since I played with them in my previous game. If we want to include people with more posts that are just all useless...well then the list becomes much longer :-) Hyshes is still very new I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't post much on day one + Show Spoiler + No | ||
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On November 16 2011 18:13 wherebugsgo wrote: My point is that you can't lynch all lurkers, and it's certainly optimal to lynch some over others. I agree that history of lurking is no excuse for lurking, but then if we're going to actually lynch a lurker today we need to figure out which one that is. The other thing I want to stress is that focusing on lurkers is going to distract us from the scum who aren't lurking. Hell, if we are fervent enough about punishing lurkers a lot of them will probably just become active and lose a lot of suspicion. If we are going to lynch lurkers we will start with kenpachi | ||
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On November 16 2011 21:29 Palmar wrote: hey guys, I'm in a good mood today, so here's a great offer to you: I will write an alignment analysis on the first three players people ask me to do. Each player can only select one person for me to analyse, and I will provide a post for each subject on what I currently think of their alignment. Go! chaoser | ||
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##Vote: Kenpachi | ||
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Your late to the party but I am surprised no one said him as well | ||
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On November 16 2011 22:07 prplhz wrote: You all realize that Palmar is just manipulating you, right? That's how Palmar plays I just wanted analysis on chaoser ![]() | ||
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On November 17 2011 00:30 Palmar wrote: prplhz told me Drazerk is scum Coag because he's always scum and he always lurks. And yeah, that's actually the case, generally it doesn't matter whose posts you read. I am pretty sure no one in this game has gone through everyone's filters and formed an opinion. Most people are likely focusing on somewhere between 2-5 people and mostly ignoring the rest of the game. So as an experiment I allowed random townies to pick which people I should focus on, because that gives the additional benefit of me not entering the analysis biased. I think it's working out well, again I am going to re-iterate: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=12303438 chaoser is scum You all should be voting for him. + Show Spoiler + If you really want to know why I'm voting Drazerk and Coag, read through their filters. Love you too; ill make my own mind up about chaoser later. | ||
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On November 17 2011 00:35 Palmar wrote: That's pretty damn scummy, anyone with half a brain should understand that I have proven without a doubt that chaoser is at least lying, and probably scum. don't worry I have an Ace plan up my sleeves | ||
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On November 17 2011 00:54 Palmar wrote: Drazerk generally at least tries to look town when he's town Erm wait a second... XL - Only reason I didn't get lynched was because I spammed the thread with martyr posts SNMM4 - Read above but a lot worse WaW2 - LOL AA - Bad tunnel at wiggles proceeding by telling the SK that I am the medic proceeded to acting retarded Ressurection - Lurk day 1 - shot day 1 - resed by scum and everyone realizes it because I was looking so scummy XL3 - Active lurked into acting scummy to get the whole scum team in a single post LOTR - Saved the scum from a vigilante, proceeded to defend his third party claim, ROLE CLAIMED MEDIC TO SAVE SCUM, and proceeding to get role blocked / shot while spreading confusion through out the day. Hell If scum had kept me alive I would of protected Kita and let them win. Not sure what Drazerk your talking about to be honest because it's not me ![]() | ||
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On November 17 2011 02:34 Cyber_Cheese wrote: I'm going to assume the answer to the questions are yes. As a choice of lurker lynch, Kenpachi over Coagulation? What? Always kill Kenpachi - No exceptions | ||
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No blue would save kenpachi | ||
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On November 17 2011 06:15 Nisani201 wrote: How experienced is chaoser? Has anyone played a game with him? He knows what he is doing | ||
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On November 17 2011 06:41 Kenpachi wrote: lol town sucks ok I lied. MAGIC! | ||
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On November 17 2011 06:44 Kenpachi wrote: alright, tell me. Where is this day going? its going to shit. you know why? you guys are lynching me. Fact: When town lynches a town Kenpachi, they lose. you know why? because town sucks. Killing off inactives with lynches is just so bad. lrn2play Multiple lynches is an anti lurker mechanic in my eyes and wasting it is pointless, unless you Actively contribute to finding scum every day I will always be voting for you. | ||
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On November 17 2011 06:48 Kenpachi wrote: LOL if she flips scum, it means jackshit do you not realize that? Would you save someone with your meta? | ||
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Then why do you think Lanaia anti voted you? And who would be more likely to protect a lurker - Scum or town? | ||
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On November 17 2011 06:54 Lanaia wrote: Greymist: Yes, I do. From what I've seen of his town play in the past, I felt he was town. If I'm wrong, I'm sorry. I have to go right now, but as soon as I'm back from class (around 4 pm PST, it's nearly two now) I will try to explain more. I got the null void that I always get from kenpachi what exactly led you to believing he was town? | ||
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On November 17 2011 06:55 Kenpachi wrote: i can do better than that. you guys are just so demoralizing If you don't really want to put effort into defending yourself Who are the three most likely to be scum this game? | ||
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On November 17 2011 07:06 Kenpachi wrote: very well. gg i surrender you win mafia No Your not martyring and expecting to come out alive | ||
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On November 17 2011 07:07 Kenpachi wrote: "gg i surrender" I really hope your scum -.- | ||
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On November 17 2011 07:09 chaoser wrote: no, i'm the doctor! (we really need a third person to do the hole Spartacus thing though) I AM THE DOCTOR AND I SECRETLY PROTECTED EVERY SCUM IN THE GAME | ||
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On November 17 2011 07:11 chaoser wrote: lol, it's funny that your protects in that game were for a mafia and then for a third-party lololol In arkham asylum I protected the serial killer every night -.- | ||
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On November 17 2011 07:15 chaoser wrote: oh oh vote for me too! I fall under that category! Trying to get the only person not voting for you to vote for you? ![]() | ||
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On November 17 2011 07:20 chaoser wrote: what a scum agenda right? At all the people who love to somehow pin the "chaoser is analytically and pro and awesome y u no awesome this game with big long analytically posts??" onto me. If you think every single player is defined by one single meta and unless they play that one meta that they're scum then I'm going to be popping lots of corn when you get owned in the face by a BC/Ace led mafia team. You've seen my meta right? ![]() | ||
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On November 17 2011 07:21 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: I'm going to hold off voting on Lanaia for now. While double voting or anti-voting is certainly powerful for both scum and for town, it is a lot less useful for scum if it is prominently announced for all to see on the vote list. If Lanaia is town, presumably scum will eventually settle the issue. If Lanaia is scum, it will be hard for her to use her ability without blatantly giving things away later on. Also, unless she thought her anti-vote would be hidden, I find it hard to believe scum would be so brash on day 1. That being said, I am going to vote for Drazerk. I said if he didn't give a good reason for his vote I'd be voting for him, and I intend to follow through on that. He seems to like trumpeting the fact that he has generally sucked as town, and overall I think his contributions have not exactly been helping to create a good town atmosphere. His repeated mentions of how much he has screwed up as town in the past combined with his plethora of 1 liners and votes with little reason behind them makes it seem like he is trying to play anti-town and get away with it because it's just his meta. Vote: Drazerk Now I'm going to reread the thread some and see if there is someone else I'd like to place a vote on as well. ♥ | ||
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On November 17 2011 07:27 GreYMisT wrote: HoD your vote is formated incorrectly, you forgot the ##. yea Lemon thats the view I hold now, but im going to wait until lanaia gets back and can explain his behavior further before I decide wether or not to unvote him. Also Drazek/Chaoser, I was Doctor Whooves in MLP mafia, and the only time i got a red check he died that night. It's not a contest! | ||
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On November 17 2011 07:30 HarbingerOfDoom wrote: Oh shit, totally didn't realize I forgot that part. Thanks for pointing that out. ##Vote: Drazerk ♥♥♥ | ||
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By the way Palmar I would like to see this as well | ||
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On November 17 2011 07:37 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Quoted the wrong post, someone asked if Lanaia knew about the anti-vote appearing. /claims credit | ||
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On November 17 2011 07:52 Palmar wrote: I don't think Kenpachi will be missed anyway, he's completely useless as either side. While you are here Palmar you still haven't answered this | ||
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On November 17 2011 08:23 Lemonwalrus wrote: Elephant There, I broke the chain, you are free to talk about useful things now. Dumbo or Stampy? | ||
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On November 17 2011 08:35 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Instead of repeatedly refreshing the page and making us correct you, go back, form some opinions, and tell us how you came to them. Or just kill him so he stops being distracting | ||
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On November 17 2011 08:49 Kenpachi wrote: i mean 14 lol Just claim now -.- | ||
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On November 17 2011 08:54 chaoser wrote: Holy batman! He's got it! That's 3 mafia down the drain on day 1! Give this man a metal! Once again your "analysis" of me is lacking and your reason for voting Lanaia and Kenpachi is based solely on a theory you have that Lanaia messed up her ability? Give more please. Remember when I got 3 scum on day 1? I never got a medal ![]() | ||
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On November 17 2011 08:57 Kenpachi wrote: ##Vote: Kenpachi Im the Doctor that can only protect greens. oh and i also function as a watcher. lol | ||
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On November 17 2011 08:58 Kenpachi wrote: now that i proved that you guys are indeed retards, i have no regrets. implies i have a role Should of just claimed earlier and not been retarded yourself | ||
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On November 17 2011 08:59 Kenpachi wrote: didnt want to. im against claiming Well I am pro claiming so yeah I was probably going to vote for you anyway | ||
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Because I can | ||
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On November 17 2011 09:08 Kenpachi wrote: im already dead. you guys are beating a dead horse. You can still use your death as some leverage though plus beating a dead horse is always fun | ||
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On November 17 2011 09:10 Kenpachi wrote: Kk you suck. Scumteam: Hiroruby Drazerk Cyber_Cheese Unlike you I will never be lynched though | ||
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He could still buy his team some leverage with people believing he has no reason to lie | ||
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Ill be away for a while ##unvote: Sabin010 | ||
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On November 18 2011 01:58 Nisani201 wrote: I just read through Drazerk's filter. He has been jumping on bandwagons and supporting bad lynches this whole game. Seriously, why aren't more people voting for him? ##Vote: Drazerk Probably because I am not scum and will never be lynched even if they try | ||
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Forgot to do it earlier | ||
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On November 18 2011 02:38 Cyber_Cheese wrote: So, if I'm not mistaken, your claiming to be lynchproof? If you aren't, you are lying and should be lynched for it. If you are, then lynching you will confirm it. Unless I'm missing something here ##Vote: Drazerk Your missing something but it's ok | ||
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On November 18 2011 06:36 Tyrran wrote: I would gladly make a Node graph, but no image allowed ![]() I was joking 201 used to make node graphs, brag about making them and then never show them town. | ||
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Personally I don't think we will learn anything significant about chaoser from kenpachi's flip | ||
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##Vote: Nisani201 | ||
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On November 18 2011 08:44 Nisani201 wrote: What makes you think I'm not reading the thread? View on Coag + WBG while unvoting YOURSELF showing you aren't really paying attention to what is going on in this thread | ||
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He said Batman | ||
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Lanaia Palmar Coagulation Nisani201 Forumite | ||
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On November 19 2011 03:42 sinani206 wrote: :LURK: stop posting when dead -.- | ||
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##Vote: Lanaia | ||
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On November 20 2011 00:22 Forumite wrote: Why do you vote for prplhz? Do you trust my reasoning on him completely, or do you have your own reasons for thinking he is scum? He's basically me this game which isn't good for anyone | ||
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On November 20 2011 02:31 prplhz wrote: So ... I wasn't around and when I was around I had to go through 20 pages of chaoser and Palmar and wherebugsgo going at it and then finally when I reached the end of that shitstorm, I arrive at people wanting to lynch another known lurker. I didn't have a decidedly town read on him but I didn't think he was scummy enough at all. Look at his posts, all one liners. I just think they looked like he actually tried to contribute with his single lines compared to other games so I wrote in caps lock DO NOT LYNCH. Why the hell aren't you focusing on the moron who actually went ahead and lynched him instead, I believe it was hyshes but don't hold me up on that. Now I am defending people in the interest of getting them lynched? Well that's up hill now wouldn't you say so. I said what I meant, the guy shouldn't get lynched. Blaming me for getting him lynched is stupid when all I ever said was that he was a moron but that he was probably town and people shouldn't vote him. @hyshes Why the hell did you vote sinani206 after I had written IN CAPS LOCK that you shouldn't vote him? Why did you think it was a good idea? What kind of information did you hope to gain from it? What information did you actually end up gaining? You didn't comment on his lynch at all since it happened so it doesn't seem like you got any information from it. Also your filter is very underwhelming at first sight, didn't have time to read it through 'cause I kinda have to go cook some food right now. You know you had written like 10 posts in all caps at that point so people was probably ignoring you. | ||
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On November 20 2011 02:55 hyshes wrote: Ok, stop the voting on drazerk. Me and drazerk are masons. Confirming this | ||
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On November 20 2011 02:57 prplhz wrote: @hyshes So you are mason and you chose to mason Drazerk or what? lol | ||
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On November 20 2011 03:01 Forumite wrote: We know how they work, but we don´t know how they works in this game. Did you both start with PM-rights to eachother from the beginning of the game, or did either of you need to choose the other to join the mason circle? Did your role-PM state that your mason-buddy is a confirmed Town player, or can one of you be scum? Start with PM at the beginning of the game. Other mason is confirmed town player. | ||
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On November 20 2011 03:11 GreYMisT wrote: I normally make a point not to accept roleclaims as fact right off the bat, but 2 alive confirmed town masons is a bit hard to dispute. On top of that I think this claim is probally true due to two things. First it could explain the activity levels of both players. With the ability to talk with each other it is likely their activity in the thread will suffer slightly. Secondly, the fact that hyshes only soft defended drazerk when his lynch was builing also makes sense. because he knew he could just claim mason to stop it. So ##Unvote: Drazerk I can only assume that you guys have been discussing things a lot. what are your thoughts about the game now that you are essentially confirmed? I don't believe Palmars scum shot but I also doubt that scum only has 1 KP or we have another role blocker / medic More than likely scum have held off a KP in order to make this claim. | ||
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On November 20 2011 03:33 Lanaia wrote: ##Unvote:Drazerk I suppose I'm super terrible at reading anyone this game. Rereading, will hopefully have something to say later. I was baiting on purpose you shouldn't feel bad | ||
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Main scum targets for today are Nisani and prplhz | ||
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On November 20 2011 04:23 prplhz wrote: ##Unvote Drazerk For now. Implying that your going to be voting for a mod confirmed town and are probably scum | ||
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No scum is that stupid. | ||
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On November 20 2011 05:01 GreYMisT wrote: So I take it you think they are both town? Main targets I think are scum today* | ||
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On November 20 2011 06:46 Nisani201 wrote: This is fun. ##Unvote: Drazerk At least now I can focus on more important people, like WBG and Palmar. However I think I focus on Palmar today. Palmar is probably town | ||
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On November 20 2011 07:21 Lanaia wrote: I very much agree with this post. And I've reread this entire thread and I'm having trouble. Very few people scream out to me anything that isn't null. This is basically all gut. I currently believe Nisani to be scum. ##vote:Nisani201 I would like to hear more from Coagulation and bumatlarge as well, though. You forgot a space | ||
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On November 20 2011 14:41 prplhz wrote: guys I don't think prplhz is scum, here is why...
Difference is I was intentionally scum baiting knowing I couldn't be lynched where you have actually been playing bad | ||
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On November 21 2011 06:45 chaoser wrote: I was working there, was doing a 16 hour volunteer ER shift yesterday. Ended up getting wayyy too sick. Need to use more purell next time. Thank you, my fever is sub 100 right now but I still feel like shit. Bad stomach virus probably. They want to keep me overnight for observation. Hopefully I can be out by some time tomorrow or tuesday Get better soon | ||
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On November 21 2011 07:24 Zephirdd wrote: Wtf, everyone unvoted Drazerk? What the hell happened when I was off? ##Unvote: Drazerk Just for the sake of it; I have about 50 pages to read and catch up. Plus MLG. I'll give my thoughts tomorrow only, probably. Barcraft was fucking awesome by the way. That is incredibly scummy by the way unvoting someone without knowing why | ||
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On November 21 2011 08:00 Nisani201 wrote: Palmar is an interesting case. Though many of you have a reason to trust him, we have to realize that part of the reason that he is trusted is because he is Palmar. The other reason is this post: + Show Spoiler + On November 16 2011 21:49 Palmar wrote: Actually, I just read Chaoser's filter ##Unvote: Coagulation ##Vote: chaoser So here's my reasoning chaoser needs to be lynched. First off, we should establish that chaoser is both analytical and critical as town. His play this game starkly contrasts that idea. He is throwing accusations and votes both left and right without actually doing much to back them up. Now, this leads us to think what would make chaoser throw his votes around like this. The only sensible reason to do that as town is to apply pressure, but when you are the one being pressured it's actually not beneficial to do this, because no one is going to listen to you anyway. The optimal town play in this situation is to try as hard as you can to build reputation for people to listen to you for. However, chaoser seems not even slightly interested in raising his status in the game, feeling pretty comfortable being not listened to at all. Something only scum is interested in. This one is particularly interesting. First off, we have to understand how sinani206 works to see if this is legit. Remember, sinani206 hasn't got the greatest track record as town or scum, but he does have his tells like everyone else. This little vote he placed on chaoser seems to be pretty genuine. Like he's not pro enough as scum to realize that doing something like that with his meta as scum is excellent play, and thus the simplest explanation is that sinani206 is town. chaoser should have understood this, yet he directly OMGUS votes sinani206, even gloating about the fact he's voting multiple people. So yes, I think chaoser would be an excellent lynch today. Also, just for future reference: This is chaoser soft-claiming a power-role. No reason to do it unless you're scum. If you can't understand how he's soft-claiming a power role, well... you deserve to be punched. So yeah, let's kill that guy. This is his initial analysis on Chaoser. There are 3 points in this analysis: 1. chaoser is voting a lot of people. 2. chaoser is OMGUSing sinani206 3. chaoser is "softclaiming a power role." The first point is incorrect because this game has a mechanic that is special for voting multiple people. The second point is wrong because chaoser's vote on Sinani206 is not OMGUS The third point doesn't even make sense. 1. Voting a lot of people is still stupidly scummy even with the game mechanic, In fact I would say the game mechanic behind the multiple votes would be much more beneficial for scum to abuse. 2. His vote was an Omgus vote 3. Soft claiming a power role is stupid ( Shush I know I did it in this game Palmar but town was stupid and never realized it ) and is normally something scum would do when they are being pressured into a lynch 4. Palmar has claimed being shot and I can guarantee you now that there is another medic in this game so I am more than willing to believe that Palmar is town. 5. Why are more people still not voting for you? | ||
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He gives me bad vibes | ||
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Hammer prplhz and Nisani and be done with it | ||
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On November 21 2011 08:40 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: You guys needs to calm down with the mass lynching though, how much time is left int he day cycle? Another 24 hours | ||
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On November 21 2011 08:43 Forumite wrote: I think it´s 26 hours left, but we don´t have to wait with lynching until the last hour. Personally I´d rather lynch too early than too late. There is no difference between lynching early or later other than the fact the lynch target has more options to cause havoc after the lynch ( See kenpachi who I thought was lying about his role ) | ||
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Sorry for my activity been rather ill lately | ||
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On November 23 2011 02:30 Palmar wrote: It's not like your astonishing contributions to the game leave you in any danger of being killed. She still has a powerful role in this game. | ||
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On November 23 2011 08:29 Lemonwalrus wrote: How come palmar didn't bold the first # in his fistpound? Is it paranoid of me to ask that question? Someone hold me. ITS A TRAP! | ||
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