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Tyrran
France777 Posts
On November 24 2011 01:17 Nisani201 wrote: If I get lynched, and flip town, will you guys kill Palmar/WBG for me? I'm not voting for you because Palmar wants to do it. I'm currently voting for you because you are trying to lynch a blue. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On November 24 2011 01:22 hyshes wrote: @wbg: explain this. + Show Spoiler + On November 23 2011 19:05 wherebugsgo wrote: I would believe those are all townies. + Show Spoiler + On November 23 2011 19:47 wherebugsgo wrote: also ##vote Forumite for being repeatedly thick/repeatedly pushing stupid lynches. Stop it. Really. It's starting to get annoying. If you're actually town, take your head out of your ass and look at what you're doing. Whitin 1 post you change your thought on forumite? Without a post inbetween from forumite? Or any post concerning the matter? Everybody knows you don't post without reading the thread, so this makes no sence. He posted his thread before reading my post where I voted 3 of the lurkers who voted prplhz yesterday. It´s allready been answered earlier, you probably missed the post. | ||
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hyshes
Belgium428 Posts
On November 24 2011 01:46 Forumite wrote: He posted his thread before reading my post where I voted 3 of the lurkers who voted prplhz yesterday. It´s allready been answered earlier, you probably missed the post. I explained my question some more in my previous post. | ||
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Lanaia
Canada1142 Posts
I don't disagree with how Tyrran posted his blue reads. But I can say he is not correct on what my role is. Cyber_Cheese may have only known about what happened to Tyrran at night based on someone else's claim (prplhz) so he may be very well incorrect there. I'm not sure where he got the idea of you not being roleblocked (maybe just assumed you'd claim that) and assumed you weren't attacked as you may have said something about that, having been protected. Right now, I have no idea who I should vote, though there are several people who I will not vote due to feeling they are town. All I really know is that we do need to lynch scum today. And it kind of bothers me RoL is on me. I will be back after class. <3 | ||
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Kibibit
United States1551 Posts
On November 24 2011 01:46 Forumite wrote: He posted his thread before reading my post where I voted 3 of the lurkers who voted prplhz yesterday. It´s allready been answered earlier, you probably missed the post. I'll step out here then, since I'm trying to be less confused here. Is there any particular reason I'm not on that short list? I've lurked fairly hard and I did vote prplhz.I'm willing to go over my reasoning as to why. Right now, my activity pretty much puts me up on the chopping block without much defense to go on if we lynch any more townies. | ||
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Tyrran
France777 Posts
On November 24 2011 02:09 Kibibit wrote: I'll step out here then, since I'm trying to be less confused here. Is there any particular reason I'm not on that short list? I've lurked fairly hard and I did vote prplhz.I'm willing to go over my reasoning as to why. Right now, my activity pretty much puts me up on the chopping block without much defense to go on if we lynch any more townies. You are on the lurker list, but there are scummier lurkers in front of you. | ||
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DCLXVI
United States729 Posts
On November 24 2011 00:42 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: At the end of the day you can't ignore what mafia aganda is. Their goal is to kill as many of us as possible and while avoiding a suspect list is good if it means not killing people its a choice they probably won't make. To be honest I don't like the weird way you are trying to use this list. Why would you vote Chaoser/Bum when they aren't high in the +3 area. Seems strange. I can almost guarantee you among those 5 I mentioned there are a couple of scum. I would happily kill them all because its a good trade. Anyone else want to contribute? Zephirdd, Nisani, DCLXVI, Greymist, Cyber_cheese, Lanaia, Forumite These 7, kill them all. I welcome analysis on them if anyone wants to do it. I don't think voting off at least 3 people with power roles, likely blues, would be anything other than a mafia agenda: "Their goal is to kill off as many of us as possible." Is this really your best plan, to slaughter the remaining power roles? Neither of the lynches were hard for the mafia to push, I highly doubt each mafia needed to jump on both bandwagons. ##Vote RebirthOfLeGenD ##Vote Nisani201 I will hold off voting Palmar for now as I reconsider given last nights kills. | ||
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Tyrran
France777 Posts
##Unvote: bumatlarge ##Unvote: RebirthOfLeGenD | ||
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Tyrran
France777 Posts
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Nisani201
United States1400 Posts
DCLXVI I just looked through his filter and I think that I voted him for a stupid reason. This post is incredibly scummy, but that's pretty much it. I don't think there's enough evidence on him. ##Unvote: DCLXVI RebirthOfLeGenD Both RoL and Hiroruby have been lurking, and haven't contributed much, which makes me think that this is a scum strategy. I think that his old vote on Palmar was a way of separating him from Palmar because they are both scummy. His recent posts are interesting but I feel like he did it because he was called out on lurking, rather than to actually help town. Palmar Palmar is trying to control the town. There is no reason for a townie to do this. He has contradicted himself multiple times, and took his bullshit case on Chaoser way too far. He has been attacking me with empty statements throughout this entire game, despite the fact that he actually has no reason to believe I'm scum. wherebugsgo Besides parroting Palmar, is he refusing to believe the slightest possibility that I could be town. He keeps bringing up his bullshit case on me that makes no sense. Recently he made this and this posts, in which he colorized the name of players that were not confirmed. It isn't super-scummy, but it's not something that a town-aligned player would do. It means that he is going to illegitimate lengths to allude to the fact that I'm scum. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
Palmar, my play makes sense because it uses a well founded concept as voting analysis to determine who are likely scum. I have used it before and its effective. I know I proposed lynching 7 people simultaneously but I gave reasoning. If you really really think that some of the named people are town (which at least two of them are.) Then give us some beyond justifiable reason to remove them from that list of bad voters. Only really really exemplary reasons are worthwhile or we run the risk of mafia manipulating evidence and public opinion to let there members off the hook today. I assure you we have mafia in that list, and I will keep pushing for their mass lynch unless you can seriously undermine my reasoning. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
On November 24 2011 03:11 DCLXVI wrote: I'm not sure why voting fro drazerk was such a bad thing at the time. He admitted in the thread that he was purposely playing badly in order to bait reactions out of people. While I question his tactics I certainly cannot condemn anyone for voting for someone who tried to look as bad as possible. I don't think voting off at least 3 people with power roles, likely blues, would be anything other than a mafia agenda: "Their goal is to kill off as many of us as possible." Is this really your best plan, to slaughter the remaining power roles? Neither of the lynches were hard for the mafia to push, I highly doubt each mafia needed to jump on both bandwagons. ##Vote RebirthOfLeGenD ##Vote Nisani201 I will hold off voting Palmar for now as I reconsider given last nights kills. I narrowed it down to 4 people iirc. None of which included you or Lanaia. Do you disagree that there are likely maifa on that lynch? And you are wrong. The lynches may not have been hard to push in the sense that no one defended them, but either way you have to get the requisite vote count to actually get a player lynched. | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
On November 23 2011 18:37 Tyrran wrote: Cyber_cheeze : He his a powerful version of a Watcher. Look at this post : He seems to know what happened to me during day nigth, so i'd say he is a mixup between a watcher and a rolecop. (maybe with a drawback of some kind as this role seems a bit too powerful). I wish it was something that interesting. I'll bite the bullet and rolecall now: It's essentially Tracker, but I have a one-time use ability that shows me the actions that player performed that night as well. Tyrran and Sabin have done nothing, nights 1 and 2 respectively. On November 24 2011 02:00 Lanaia wrote: I'm not liking how little certain people are talking (like Coag). I don't disagree with how Tyrran posted his blue reads. But I can say he is not correct on what my role is. Cyber_Cheese may have only known about what happened to Tyrran at night based on someone else's claim (prplhz) so he may be very well incorrect there. I'm not sure where he got the idea of you not being roleblocked (maybe just assumed you'd claim that) and assumed you weren't attacked as you may have said something about that, having been protected. Right now, I have no idea who I should vote, though there are several people who I will not vote due to feeling they are town. All I really know is that we do need to lynch scum today. And it kind of bothers me RoL is on me. I will be back after class. <3 I know Tyrran wasn't roleblocked or attacked by deduction. If he was role blocked, he's either a townie who would have said so, or scum, except a town rb'er already flipped so we can rule scum out. If he was attacked, as town he would have said so, and as scum the town vigilante would have said so. And now for a controversial move: ##Unvote: Nisani201 His post quality and use of logic has stepped up since here: On November 21 2011 19:07 Cyber_Cheese wrote: I was on the fence about this one. I still don't feel sure about voting him, and I feel like there are better options for today. ##Unvote: Prplhz I feel like Nisani is much in the same boat as him, with the difference that Prplhz seems to be able to express some form of transparency for things he does. Nisani has shown he is capable of making good posts + Show Spoiler + http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366¤tpage=75#1495 And yet most of his posts are one liners, and votes with minimal explaination, he seems to be deliberately holding information back from the town ##Vote: Nisani And he's right, there isn't much of a case against him, aside from: On November 23 2011 18:53 Palmar wrote: Assuming you are correct about DCLXVI Tyrran, this is Nisani's vote record: (I think putting it in quotes stops ZBot from picking up on it) RoL, WBG and Forumite all look pretty good to me btw. It looks a little different with people who have actually flipped huh? Especially when we take the Drazerk vote into context, as pressure to make him reveal, and if he was claiming lynch-proof, to prove it. This lynch looks like it's mostly based on WBG pushing him baselessly. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
On November 24 2011 05:19 Palmar wrote: I find your choice of tracking tyrran very interesting. Please explain to me how you decided to track him? He looked relatively townie and hadn't had anyone accuse him, while using solid logic. He was going to have a lot of town sway leading into day 2, and I wanted to have some idea of whether it was misdirection or not. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22633 Posts
On November 24 2011 05:25 Cyber_Cheese wrote: He looked relatively townie and hadn't had anyone accuse him, while using solid logic. He was going to have a lot of town sway leading into day 2, and I wanted to have some idea of whether it was misdirection or not. And you convinced yourself that was good logic? | ||
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
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GreYMisT
United States6736 Posts
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
You all saw how your retarded lynches based on inactivity and "lack of contribution" turned out. Drazerk, sinani, prpl all flipped town. I give RoL greater than a 90% chance to flip town. Don't push his lynch. He is not pushing a scum agenda. If he was, he wouldn't want the amount of attention he'd receive with 7 simultaneous votes. I know that well myself, seeing as I played scum with him in the last game I played. Palmar: I don't care if you call me stupid, I will not be attempting to read between the lines for you on why bumatlarge is town. There are like three possibilities to me, none of which I trust. I go with analysis. I think he's scum. Nisani, chaoser, and Zephirrd should be the other main targets for today. Forumite seems to acknowledge that my vote on him was warranted. Please play more carefully. Don't push scum agenda while appearing to harbor town motives. Otherwise, when there's no better leads we'll probably kill you. ##unvote Forumite | ||
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Cyber_Cheese
Australia3615 Posts
On November 24 2011 05:36 Palmar wrote: And you convinced yourself that was good logic? That was the logic I used at the time. On November 24 2011 05:42 GreYMisT wrote: What exactly pressured you to claim right then? to save nisani? People wanted to know from yesterday, and it was agreed that I should reveal early day 3. Nisani is unrelated. | ||
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