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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
November 22 2011 00:11 GMT
#1692
On November 22 2011 09:09 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 09:00 DCLXVI wrote:
I can confirm that I did visit tyrran last night, I wish you had roleclaimed that earlier prplhz. For what its worth I did not protect Palmar last night, leading me to doubt his claim
@harbringer
lots of things change when people flip, and i've been sick the past few days, so I have not put nearly as much effort in this game-day.

We know you couldn´t have protected Palmar if you visited Tyrran.

The fact that you confirm that you visited Tyrran suggest that prplhz is either a Scum watcher, or is telling the truth.

Fuck.


At this point I actually don't mind just flipping them both.

prplhz is already dead. I find it really, really weird that he didn't roleclaim earlier (as I suggested). No idea what to think of it.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
November 22 2011 08:13 GMT
#1766
So is this where I get to say "I told you so!"?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
November 22 2011 10:08 GMT
#1768
Oh right, to that splendid individual who protected me last night, a similar arrangement would be splendid for tonight!
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
November 22 2011 10:47 GMT
#1770
On November 22 2011 19:37 Zephirdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 19:08 Palmar wrote:
Oh right, to that splendid individual who protected me last night, a similar arrangement would be splendid for tonight!


He didn't. He visited Tyrran last night, and he said himself he didn't protect you.

I'm up for going on DCL tomorrow too. Also, DCL softclaimed medic and we know Kenpachi was a medic. We also had a JOAT. Does anybody else find it very unlikely that there is a third medic in the middle of all this?

Assuming that there is no third medic, either DCL or Palmar lies. And not just a silly lie, but a big lie that actually hurts town.


oh yeah and I told you so.


Hi Zephirdd.

I got protected last night. I'm not to worried about whether you believe it or not because you're actually capable of convincing yourself that this:

On November 22 2011 07:44 Zephirdd wrote:
Some players are contributing so much that they either are really, really, really good scum or just basic town;


Is somehow relevant to the game. The amount of contributions made to the game is actually completely null and void. It's how those contributions are made that matters.

I hope tomorrow will be the day people stop derping and try out a very much proven strategy through multiple games.

Listen to me.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
November 22 2011 10:55 GMT
#1772
@Forumite

Assuming you're town (if you're scum, then my hat just goes off to you for a game well played), you need to step back and re-read the thread. I know you're still relatively new to this, but you're in the process of learning a very important lesson (some veterans will remember a particular game where I was a town vigilante where I learned that same lesson).

You cannot expect perfect play of town, only when the situation warrants it can you expect people to play optimally, and even then, there's only a handful of people I'd expect to rise to the occasion and play in a logical way. Here's an important distinction: Your case against prplhz was correct, the conclusion wasn't.

You proved he did something stupid. You concluded that must make him scum, that's the logical leap you went through. I know it's a bit hypocritical when I've been pushing a case on chaoser based on similar logic, but the difference here is the player. prplhz has no history of playing optimally for town, chaoser on the other hand is good enough to be held up to those standards.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
November 22 2011 11:01 GMT
#1773
Also, re-reading the last few pages I see some people wondering about whether a medic or his protectee get told if there is a hit, this is from the OP:

On November 04 2011 11:44 Zona wrote:

If a player is hit during the night, but survives, that particular player will receive a message in the following format:
Show nested quote +
You were hit X time(s) during the night, but survived. (You have Y night lives remaining.)




I see no indication that the doctor gets told that he successfully protects someone, however, the doctor should be able to deduce that he did seeing as I claimed the hit.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
November 22 2011 12:00 GMT
#1778
I have no idea why this is difficult to understand for Forumite.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
November 22 2011 15:48 GMT
#1784
So, I've been having a conversation in another thread.

How does everyone like my new plan "Just do whatever Palmar tells us to do"?

Everyone in favor go ahead and give me a ##Fistpound
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
November 22 2011 16:40 GMT
#1789
On November 23 2011 01:36 Tyrran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 00:48 Palmar wrote:
So, I've been having a conversation in another thread.

How does everyone like my new plan "Just do whatever Palmar tells us to do"?

Everyone in favor go ahead and give me a ##Fistpound


My guts keep telling me you are scum, my brain keeps telling me you are town. I wish i knew why.


Because I'm an intelligent asshole.

You hate me, but I'm right.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
November 22 2011 16:45 GMT
#1791
On November 23 2011 01:30 Nisani201 wrote:
Yes, minions, come to Master Palmar. Obviously he is right in everything he says and does.


I was right about prplhz, were you?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
November 22 2011 17:08 GMT
#1796
On November 23 2011 01:54 Kibibit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 00:09 wherebugsgo wrote:
On November 22 2011 21:00 Kibibit wrote:
Allrighty, so later today, I'll attempt to retype up my defense of chaoser who has been replaced, but the biggest problem for me is that we've lynched or lost at least 1 person whom I genuinely thought were scum, which bothers me greatly as far as trusting my instincts on players. I'm going to make a few passes through this thread and get a better feel for things now that there's nothing else better for me to be doing at the moment.


Newsflash: your instincts suck, start using logic. The faster you learn that the faster you stop being terrible.

And I mean that in general, not you specifically.

It's less that, and more Day1 sucks dick for trying to use logic, and beyond Day 1 I've been a touch preoccupied.


That's wrong.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
November 22 2011 17:30 GMT
#1800
On November 23 2011 02:25 Lanaia wrote:
I hate night. I've always hated the night. I just get so anxious, you know?


It's not like your astonishing contributions to the game leave you in any danger of being killed.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
November 23 2011 00:57 GMT
#1810
IT'S A TRAP
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
November 23 2011 08:24 GMT
#1834
On November 23 2011 12:44 Nisani201 wrote:
Do you realize that there is no actual case against me? I have been using logic and reason this entire game. That is why I am voting DCLXVI. Think before you vote. I know you like Palmar but you have to realize that he's manipulating you.


No, you're not allowed to vote for a bunch of townies, then build cases against more townies, and claim you're using logic and reason.

Shut up.


About RebirthOfLeGenD, as much as it pains me to say it, that despite his awful play so far, there is no reason to believe he is scum, unless you believe Hiroruby was the mafia godfather. So I'm not willing to look at any case against him today. I would much rather we focus on chaoser (or his replacement), 666, or perhaps even nisani201, who I'm starting to lean scum on again.

Other potential candidates include sabin010 and xscsc (or whatever his name is), who haven't contributed anything of value so far.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
November 23 2011 09:31 GMT
#1839
State of the game:

Coagulation - nothing so far. I suggest we lurker lynch him today.
Cyber_Cheese - confirmed to have a role, has indirectly denied being medic
DCLXVI - confirmed to have a role, claimed medic
Forumite - nothing, led the lynch on prplhz
GreYMisT - reminds me of youngminii
RebirthOfLeGenD - unlikely to be mafia, useless though
Kibibit - nothing
Lanaia - terrible or scum, don't know which, I'm leaning terrible
Lemonwalrus - no clue
Nisani201 - asshole, and bad, hopefully scum so I won't have to policy lynch him day 1 in future games for bad.
Palmar - town
Sabin010 - nothing
Tyrran - has been pushing reasonable stances throughout the game
Zephirdd - no idea
bumatlarge - unlikely to be mafia, completely worthless atm though
MrZentor - vanilla town, offered to roleclaim despite having already done so?
hyshes - confirmed town through Drazerk's death
wherebugsgo - semi-active and is at least pushing sensible stuff, which could be interpred
xsksc - nothing to go on really.

About the night hits:

Yesterday only 2 hits happened. One killed LSB and another hit me. Today we have 3 hits. This is interesting, because it's definitely possible that one of them is a vigilante hit, although it is unlikely, given the choice of targets. No one actually suspected risk.nuke (except prplhz, and he shouldn't be listened to) and HoD, and Drazerk was a claimed mason. I have no reason to believe any of our vigilantes are that bad.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
November 23 2011 09:33 GMT
#1840
it's possible, but improbable that nisani and forumite are scum together, unless that day 1 argument was staged. And we did have the opportunity to punish lanaia's bad play as early as day 1, but we took the stance that it's more likely she's bad than scum, so I think we should stick with that now.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
November 23 2011 09:41 GMT
#1843
Unlikely, but irrelevant.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
November 23 2011 09:47 GMT
#1847
On November 23 2011 18:46 Forumite wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 18:37 Tyrran wrote:
@Palmar
Now that 2 medics have been revealed, and none protected you, your hit claim looks more scummy. Mafia is confirmed to have 2KP ( as i dont think any vigilante would have been stupid enough to shoot drazerk/risk.nuke), but it would be rather easy for mafia to only use one, and for you to claim hit. A third medic is rather unlikely dont you think ?

Palmar could also be a one-shot veteran, which means he was still shot, but survived despite there not being any medics involved.


I have already explained that there is no mechanic in my role that allows me to survive night hits.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
November 23 2011 09:53 GMT
#1848
Assuming you are correct about DCLXVI Tyrran, this is Nisani's vote record:

(I think putting it in quotes stops ZBot from picking up on it)

##Vote: Forumite
##Vote: Kenpachi
##Vote: Palmar
##Vote: Drazerk
##Vote: wherebugsgo
##Vote: prplhz
##Vote: DCLXVI
##Vote: RebirthOfLeGenD


RoL, WBG and Forumite all look pretty good to me btw.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
November 23 2011 10:00 GMT
#1851
On November 23 2011 18:53 Tyrran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 18:47 Palmar wrote:
On November 23 2011 18:46 Forumite wrote:
On November 23 2011 18:37 Tyrran wrote:
@Palmar
Now that 2 medics have been revealed, and none protected you, your hit claim looks more scummy. Mafia is confirmed to have 2KP ( as i dont think any vigilante would have been stupid enough to shoot drazerk/risk.nuke), but it would be rather easy for mafia to only use one, and for you to claim hit. A third medic is rather unlikely dont you think ?

Palmar could also be a one-shot veteran, which means he was still shot, but survived despite there not being any medics involved.


I have already explained that there is no mechanic in my role that allows me to survive night hits.


So you have a role ?


Everyone has a role.
Computer says mafia
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