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Chaoser - I´m getting Townwibes from the discussion he generates and the ease at which votes are thrown at him. Lanaia - Stupid mistake, but I think the un-anti-voting was motivated by being pressured/embarassed rather than trying to kill Kenpachi.
I want to hear more from LSB and xsksc. LSB has been offline for almost a full day. Those two are nowhere near the only lurkers, just the ones I feel responsible for.
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On November 17 2011 10:00 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 09:51 HarbingerOfDoom wrote:@Cyber_CheeseI'm going to keep a vote on Chaoser, it'll take something short of a miracle to convince me that random voting wasn't just him putting suspicion everywhere and muddying the waters to make the place more anti-town. You've voted for 5 different people so far, and are still voting for 3 of them. Palmar is voting for 5 people currently. Chaoser has voted for 5 different people so far, and is still voting for 4 of them. The only difference I see is that you and Palmar are mostly on the bandwagons while Chaoser's votes are more fringe votes. However, you were also the first and only vote to go on prplhz and the second vote, after only Palmar, to vote on Coag, so even you have cast some votes to the fringe. Why is his voting muddying the waters, and your's and Palmar's not? In a game with mutli-lynch, it's harder to define the boundaries of what is muddying the waters and what is legitimate contribution. He was voting without reasoning, on people he never mentioned. And we know it was on purpose because he did it twice. So what? That was almost 2 IRL days ago. Why focus on just his first posts when he has posted so much after that?
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For lurking ever since I called them out:
##Vote: xsksc ##Vote: LSB
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Palmar, Cyber_Cheese, ignoring Kenpachi, Chaoser and Lanaia for a moment, where´s your strongest Scumread? If you two could pick anyone else to lynch, and lynch now, who would it be?
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On November 17 2011 19:37 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 19:34 Forumite wrote: Palmar, Cyber_Cheese, ignoring Kenpachi, Chaoser and Lanaia for a moment, where´s your strongest Scumread? If you two could pick anyone else to lynch, and lynch now, who would it be? Following that latest post of Bumatlarge's, I'd probably lynch him. Wherebugsgo asked me about Bum earlier, to which I responded him being a null read, but that is such a bad post, I see no motivation for town to post in such a manner. I do not agree with most of your reads at the moment, but you seem genuine enough in your accusations that I also don't think you need to be looked at specifically at the moment. On November 17 2011 19:45 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 19:34 Forumite wrote: Palmar, Cyber_Cheese, ignoring Kenpachi, Chaoser and Lanaia for a moment, where´s your strongest Scumread? If you two could pick anyone else to lynch, and lynch now, who would it be? Prplhz is my second strongest scum read, but he manages to do that every game, so lynching right now would be Sinani. Thanks for your answers. I´m almost certain that Kenpachi is Town, due to how easily he was lynched early in the day, not sure what that says about Chaoser and Lanaia.
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LSB and xsksc, I like how you two occasionally come back to the game when pressured or voted upon, but I wish you were here more often. Miss you!
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On November 17 2011 22:13 xsksc wrote:I was asleep while all that shit went down last night I can't help it man, when I'm on nothing happens. I posted my analysis a couple of hours ago and not much has happened since then. What are your current reads forumite? Still think think I'm newbie scum based on my hello post? Cause honestly, that was a pretty silly case. Yeah, I don´t think you are scum, I still want you active in the game. The original case was a gamble, scum have been caught by things like that. It didn´t work now, but I also have your word that you are going to contribute despite being a new player, so it´s still a win! 
I´m agreeing with Palmar, we need another lynch, ONE by the way, not 5. I don´t want Chaoser or Lalala lynched.
I have to run now, but will be back several hours before the lynch.
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Back. Three and a half hour left in the game. I´d like for us to agree on at least one more lynch during the next 2 hours, and then be content with that. I don´t want to see a crazy bandwagon the last 15 minutes in the day, because someone gets brilliant idea, crazy plan, or just feel like killing someone.
On November 18 2011 04:16 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Well thats enough derping around, refreshing the page and wishing someone would post something. Anyone doing the same, who isn't currently voting on Chaoser, what is your stance on him and why?
Similarly, anyone who's played with Prplhz/Sinani before and isn't voting them, what is your take on their current alignments? They both seem to do the same thing every game, and they are doing it
We have currently killed someone for lurking. Personally I don't want a Sinani lynch to happen right now, but it's better than none. I feel like Chaosers flip will provide us with more information and a much higher chance of hitting scum than Prplhz flipping, based off both reputations and actions so far in game.
Those are the three candidates I'm currently willing to consider, outside of making Drazerk prove his claim. As I've said before, more than three lynches is something I don't want to risk. Earlier I disliked the Chaoser lynch because it felt like everyone wanted it, it didn´t think it would look like that if he was scum. I´m not as sure now, because the pressure on him hasn´t risen since yesterday, I guess it depends on if he´s shaping up or scum don´t want to hammer one of their own. I still think we should keep him alive, because he HAS shaped up since the first random votes. Perhaps not by much. Either way I don´t think we should kill ALL our veterans before they get a chance to contribute, they can´t all be scum after all.
On November 18 2011 01:34 hyshes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 01:28 Forumite wrote:On November 17 2011 22:13 xsksc wrote:I was asleep while all that shit went down last night I can't help it man, when I'm on nothing happens. I posted my analysis a couple of hours ago and not much has happened since then. What are your current reads forumite? Still think think I'm newbie scum based on my hello post? Cause honestly, that was a pretty silly case. Yeah, I don´t think you are scum, I still want you active in the game. The original case was a gamble, scum have been caught by things like that. It didn´t work now, but I also have your word that you are going to contribute despite being a new player, so it´s still a win!  I´m agreeing with Palmar, we need another lynch, ONE by the way, not 5. I don´t want Chaoser or Lalala lynched. I have to run now, but will be back several hours before the lynch. Than who would you suggest? When I posted and went offline, I had my eye on Bumatlarge. He´s been pointed out as scummy by several players, more than the 4 votes would suggest, unlike the Drazerk bandwagon that flared up over a few hours and have twice the number of votes now. Part of the reason I want him lynched is that I want to know how good Chaoser, Kenpachi and Palmar really are.
##Vote: bumatlarge
I really don´t like Drazerk's hint that he is unlynchable, either it´s a stupid powerclaim or an arrogant scumclaim, none of which is very flattering to his ability. I haven´t looked closer at him than that yet.
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On November 18 2011 07:20 Tyrran wrote: So within four hours, we must focus on getting another lynch. We already have 2 people a 8 votes, i suggest we focus on them. Both look scummy, both are in my likely scum list, yet Drazerk voted for Sinani206 so its unlikely that both are scum. I have 2 problems with this. First, if we wait until the last hour without lynching someone, then we will most likely get stressed and desperate to get another player lynched, and we are going to make mistakes. In the confusion Scum can easily sway Town and later blame the confusion for their anti-Town behavior. If there´s no other lynch an hour before lynch then we should let it be and be content. Second, if there are 5 Townvotes on two players, one Town and one Scum, then Scum are putting two of their own votes on the Town to push it to 7v5. Sinani206 and Drazerk are definetly suspicious, but I don´t want us to ignore Coagulation or bumatlarge, I think all 4 are worth looking at, and with 4 there´s a greater chance of a scum among them, forcing the others to speak up.
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On November 17 2011 09:11 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 09:10 Kenpachi wrote:On November 17 2011 09:08 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On November 17 2011 08:58 Kenpachi wrote:On November 17 2011 08:49 Kenpachi wrote: ill claim when we hit 12!1!11!!! now that i proved that you guys are indeed retards, i have no regrets. implies i have a role On November 17 2011 08:59 Kenpachi wrote: didnt want to. im against claiming On November 15 2011 13:29 Kenpachi wrote: real long day ok. hi i am Kenpachi and i am a Townie welcome to TL mafia to those who are just starting and i hope you have a good time here.
That is two lies in a game where we should be lynching all liars. ##Unvote: Coagulation##Vote: KenpachiTyping ## and : is a pain. Kk you suck. Scumteam: Hiroruby Drazerk Cyber_Cheese Unlike you I will never be lynched though Either he is doing a careless and unnecessary blueclaim, or a careless and unneccessary scumclaim.
##Vote: Drazerk
On November 17 2011 09:59 sinani206 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 09:48 chaoser wrote:On November 17 2011 09:45 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On November 17 2011 09:42 chaoser wrote:On November 17 2011 09:41 DCLXVI wrote:On November 17 2011 09:32 chaoser wrote:On November 17 2011 09:28 DCLXVI wrote:really kenpachi? I don't know you but I didn't expect you to whine so much and give up. Even if the town is bad, you can at least try pointing out their errors instead of just bitching. @Zona can he be put on the banlist for this? I certainly don't want to play with him again: Play to win. Make your posts, and choose targets for your actions in order to help your team achieve its win condition. How can you say he didn't play to win? His case prompted a lot of discussion and activity. Get off your high horse; you're sure as hell not good enough to be bitching about Kenpachi "whining and giving up". since when is it a prerequisite to be good at this game to say that this means someone gave up? + Show Spoiler +On November 17 2011 06:41 Kenpachi wrote: lol town sucks On November 17 2011 06:44 Kenpachi wrote: alright, tell me. Where is this day going? its going to shit. you know why? you guys are lynching me. Fact: When town lynches a town Kenpachi, they lose. you know why? because town sucks.
Killing off inactives with lynches is just so bad. lrn2play On November 17 2011 06:48 Kenpachi wrote: im going to fucking shoot myself. Walrus and risk.nuke need more experience because this is ridiculous On November 17 2011 06:55 Kenpachi wrote: i can do better than that. you guys are just so demoralizing On November 17 2011 07:06 Kenpachi wrote: very well. gg i surrender you win mafia On November 17 2011 07:07 Kenpachi wrote: "gg i surrender" On November 17 2011 08:51 Kenpachi wrote: No i want to piss you all off On November 17 2011 08:57 Kenpachi wrote: ##Vote: Kenpachi Im the Doctor that can only protect greens. oh and i also function as a watcher.
On November 17 2011 08:58 Kenpachi wrote:now that i proved that you guys are indeed retards, i have no regrets. implies i have a role On November 17 2011 09:06 Kenpachi wrote: This is the first in a long time since i went defeatist. the first time, i was really bad. this time, you deserved the punishment. srs and it goes on.... Kenpachi is way better than you are. I don't think he's missed a single vigi shot at mafia and I'd sure as hell rather have him at end game than you. When he flips scum who was relying on his reputation, you'll be eating those words. Or you'll be eating your words when lanaia, me and kenpachi all flip town. WTF is the point of that post? I thought we already discussed the difference between a winning decision and a smart decision in Team Melee Mafia. I'd rather lynch hiroruby, a smart choice than kenpachi, a bad choice. Seriously go fuck yourself, I'm done playing TL mafia; after this game I'll be co-hosting/hosting only. umadbro? I don´t know what he´s doing, taunting to make Chaoser slip, or just being irritating, but I don´t like the style. For some reason I often connect acting like this to scum.
##Vote: sinani206
On November 17 2011 20:24 Coagulation wrote: Who the fuck you calling useless as town?
I fucking snipe godfathers constantly. But you are not doing anything here, in this game. Shape up, please? If the please isn´t enough then perhaps pressure will help.
##Vote: Coagulation
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I must have missed something, why are people unvoting Drazerk?
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Just over 2 hours until night. If we haven´t lynched in 1 hour, I think we should let it be.
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On November 18 2011 09:34 risk.nuke wrote: there is so much last minute action going on. Still 1 hour, 20 minutes left, not last minute yet.
Personally I´m aiming for last minute inactivity.
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On November 18 2011 10:08 Kibibit wrote:Show nested quote +On November 18 2011 10:01 GreYMisT wrote:On November 18 2011 09:35 chaoser wrote:On November 18 2011 09:31 GreYMisT wrote:On November 18 2011 09:31 chaoser wrote:On November 18 2011 09:28 wherebugsgo wrote: You're all going to completely ignore nisani's OMGUS on me? lololol
He's just flailing around at this point. Everyone is OMGUSing everyone else at this point, look at the amount of knee-jerk reaction votes that are being thrown around for no reason. Obviously batman or aragorn needs to come and fix things Or theon Greyjoy Don't you know? Theon's retired with some nice elf babes. At this point people are branching out too much with everyone jerkknee voting people. This multi lynch is starting to become a anti-town mechanic cause no one feels the need to focus and stick with 2 to three lynches. I say starting tomorrow we do a strict people-are-only-allowed-to-vote-for-two-people-a-day rule. That allows for focus and no one will be going around voting on everyone and anyone they fucking want. I agree with this policy. Even though we all have more than 2 votes out at the moment, this would definatly lessen the amount of crap we have to sift through. I'd like to know if the people not voting sinani are doing so because they generally feel he isnt scummy, or they arnt because they dont want another lynch today. I only haven't because I don't have any sort of coherent feelings about him. Not like it matters much, I'm generally confused about day 1 due to the lack of hard evidence besides looking at peoples posts and going "Yep, that's scummy" While it might sound harsh, a lot of the information we get from Day 1 is who is lynched, how they flip, and how the voting went down, and of those the flip is most crucial. If there´s a huge discussion about a player, people defending, soft defending and starting counter-bandwagons, then we can´t really only use that information unless we know the rule of someone involved. It´s often discussed in games where it´s possible to no-lynch how not lynching is just extending the first day with 1 less player, more time to talk but nothing solid to talk about.
There is a point to lynching uncertain targets, if only because Town gets to decide who they want to know the alignment of, instead of waiting for Scum to choose who among the most influential Townies they want to flip.
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On November 18 2011 10:28 sinani206 wrote: theres no such thing as a counter bandwagon in this game. I know, I wasn´t talking about this game specifically.
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On November 18 2011 10:33 sinani206 wrote:he said he was town why would he lie If he´s scum then it´s in his interest to keep Town in the dark as long as possible, or risk Town using the knowledge of his alignment to find other scum. Him saying he is Town doesn´t prove anything.
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ninja'd
23 minutes left. I really wouldn´t mind 2 more votes on sinani206.
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Palmar, WBG, why do you want to keep sinani206 alive?
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On November 18 2011 10:47 bumatlarge wrote: I'll look into sinani, he seems to post unsurprisingly similar to nisani, but I'm not feeling confident about him either. I don't really feel a need to defend the votes on me, everyone who has has given piss-poor reasons. If we only lynch kenpachi tonight, that would be alright, but I'm still sold on prphlz, and would prefer to get rid of him now. I nearly cut my finger in half so I'd rather keep my posts short, but I will try to post more if thats all people want. As if that is magically going to help town. I´m beginning to understand why you want to lynch prplhz.
barely minutes left to vote sinani206, make up your mind.
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Sinani206, if one person votes him then he is lynched, if nothing happens in 3 minutes, then he lives.
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