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On November 26 2011 21:25 xsksc wrote:
Good morning.
Zona confirmed for me that if I protect 3 targets and 2 are hit, my protection on all of them fails.
Palmar and bugs, do you guys have any input on how I should use this tonight? My plan thus far has been protect the fuck out of Palmar, but it's getting a bit more complicated now.
Protect only one person.
And do not tell any of us who it is.
Leave your eyes open though, and read the thread carefully. If you do that you'll probably know who scum would
most likely shoot.
Although, I think you already know.
Realize tomorrow, we can win. Protect whoever you think will give us the best chance to win. The best townie.
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On November 27 2011 06:54 DCLXVI wrote:Show nested quote +On November 27 2011 04:48 hyshes wrote:On November 27 2011 04:16 DCLXVI wrote:
Why must you assume that every role works the same in this game as it does in others. I know I am a miller because that is part of my role. I would not claim miller if I was scum because of this response, I felt it was necessary to make the best out of our dts since their time is short. Easy to say after you made the mistake.. I told you before there was a drawback to my role, this is it. @WBG Are you seriously still considering lynching lanaia tomorrow?
Are you seriously still trying to appear townie?
Yeah, I'm considering lynching the five people who have been most anti-town this game. Yours is #1 now.
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I HAVE to choose 3 targets if I want to protect someone.
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choose two scum and then the one guy I'm telling you to protect.
That'll ensure that the protection succeeds.
Also if we have any vigilantes/KP roles, please shoot DCLXVI and Sabin010.
Xsksc, use the two scum protections as two of these players: Lanaia, GreYMisT, Zephirdd.
In order for them to make your protection fail they will have to shoot one of the players we want dead anyway.
Win-win situation, eh?
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Claiming miller should always be autolynch. The only reason you would claim miller is mafia for protection. If you knew your miller role you would have breadcrumbed it right from the start of day one.
Don't give me this bullshit, you're dead tomorrow DCLXVI
At the people wondering about WBG: He can well be scum, ezpz, but up until now we have been lynching retarded townies, and he has been making non-retarded statements. He's great scum, and the only way to figure out his alignment is to put him up against the wall later in the game. Until then, I'm gonna consider him town. Similar logic applies to tyrran. The fact they've been trying to help town makes them look town.
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and also if 4 of those are indeed scum they'll just gambit and shoot the one that isn't lol.
If it's sabin010, somehow, then lolololol
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Palmar, do you agree with WBGs plan?
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+ Show Spoiler [Claimed Roles] +Players Alive:
Cyber_Cheese - Town Obsessive Stalker(Tracker)
DCLXVI - Miller Doctor
GreYMisT - Vanilla
RebirthOfLeGenD - Town Alignment
Lanaia - Town Elder(Double Voter/Double Anti-Voter)
Lemonwalrus - Town Rolecop(gets roles, not alignment)
Palmar - Town Records Cop(can only check people he voted on)
Sabin010 - unclaimed
Tyrran - Vanilla
Zephirdd - Town Restraining Doctor(protect+roleblock)
bumatlarge - unclaimed
hyshes - Town Mason
wherebugsgo - Vanilla
xsksc - Town Doctor(Protects as many targets as the day had lynches)
The Dead:
Kenpachi, the Town Newbie Watchful Doc, lynched Day 1
sinani206, the Town Roleblocker, lynched Day 1
LSB, the Town Vanilla, killed Night 1
prplhz, the Town Corpse Jack, lynched Day 2
HarbingerOfDoom, the Town Vanilla, killed Night 2
risk.nuke, the Town Vanilla, killed Night 2
Drazerk, the Town Frail Mason, killed Night 2
Nisani201, the Town Vanilla, lynched Day 3
Forumite, the Town Vanilla, lynched Day 3
MrZentor, the Town Vanilla, lynched Day 3
Kibibit, the Town Tracker, modkilled Day 3
Coagulation, the Mafia Magician, modkilled Day 3
Updating list.
Honestly I don't believe on DCL's claim. Why would being a Miller Doctor be a drawback at all? Sure a alignment check would give scum, but that doesn't stop him from being a doc(which is what I understood from his posts earlier: he was a doc but he had limitations for protection).
This is basically inviting vigilante shots on his ass, and then if he survives he would say he protected himself. AKA a method to waste vigi shots.
(speaking of which, nobody claimed vigilante yet. Sabin, bumatlarge and RoL are the only ones who didn't roleclaim, and RoL is confirmed town)
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On November 27 2011 08:08 Zephirdd wrote:+ Show Spoiler [Claimed Roles] +Players Alive:
Cyber_Cheese - Town Obsessive Stalker(Tracker)
DCLXVI - Miller Doctor
GreYMisT - Vanilla
RebirthOfLeGenD - Town Alignment
Lanaia - Town Elder(Double Voter/Double Anti-Voter)
Lemonwalrus - Town Rolecop(gets roles, not alignment)
Palmar - Town Records Cop(can only check people he voted on)
Sabin010 - unclaimed
Tyrran - Vanilla
Zephirdd - Town Restraining Doctor(protect+roleblock)
bumatlarge - unclaimed
hyshes - Town Mason
wherebugsgo - Vanilla
xsksc - Town Doctor(Protects as many targets as the day had lynches)
The Dead:
Kenpachi, the Town Newbie Watchful Doc, lynched Day 1
sinani206, the Town Roleblocker, lynched Day 1
LSB, the Town Vanilla, killed Night 1
prplhz, the Town Corpse Jack, lynched Day 2
HarbingerOfDoom, the Town Vanilla, killed Night 2
risk.nuke, the Town Vanilla, killed Night 2
Drazerk, the Town Frail Mason, killed Night 2
Nisani201, the Town Vanilla, lynched Day 3
Forumite, the Town Vanilla, lynched Day 3
MrZentor, the Town Vanilla, lynched Day 3
Kibibit, the Town Tracker, modkilled Day 3
Coagulation, the Mafia Magician, modkilled Day 3
Updating list. Honestly I don't believe on DCL's claim. Why would being a Miller Doctor be a drawback at all? Sure a alignment check would give scum, but that doesn't stop him from being a doc(which is what I understood from his posts earlier: he was a doc but he had limitations for protection). This is basically inviting vigilante shots on his ass, and then if he survives he would say he protected himself. AKA a method to waste vigi shots. (speaking of which, nobody claimed vigilante yet. Sabin, bumatlarge and RoL are the only ones who didn't roleclaim, and RoL is confirmed town)
No one (aside from pretty much hyshes) is confirmed town this game.
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Doh, sure. Maybe I should rephrase
If Lemonwalrus is actually a rolechecker that confirmed Palmar being an alignment checker, then RoL is actually Town
Would need some hell of a conspiracy theory for that to happen, esp. because nobody else claimed DT roles. This is a game of assumptions and not math, so I assume these are true.
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that's a logical call.
But you and GreYMisT are still scum.
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Oh apologies, you voted Coag.
Only GreYMisT then, carry on.
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Why have some people still not claimed? It was supposed to be a mass claim and you've had well over 24 hours now...
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On November 27 2011 07:31 xsksc wrote:
Palmar, do you agree with WBGs plan?
I haven't given it a ton of thought, but yes.
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I'm almost certainly dead tonight, gl town. I hope I made the right decisions.
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Ok so here's a list of my thinkings in the event I died.
At the moment there is 5 dt claims, and 4 medics. Something is clearly wrong there.
The other DT's:
Lemonwalrus- Breadcrumbs? You claim to have checked Palmar, and Nisani. Notably clearing Palmar of some suspicion and confirming a dead guy. I believe him nonetheless.
Palmar- Breadcrumbs that aren't the results?
wThere are a few things I have a problem with about your play this game, pushing to lynch Nisani and Chaoser among them, but first and foremost is this post:
On November 23 2011 00:48 Palmar wrote:
So, I've been having a conversation in another thread.
How does everyone like my new plan "Just do whatever Palmar tells us to do"?
Everyone in favor go ahead and give me a ##Fistpound
And it's mostly to do with the fistpound.
SUre telling people to trust you blindly is scummy, just like directing the blues night 1, but it seems in character enough.
What does the fistpound have to do with your role?
If we assume lemonwalrus is telling the truth, he is town, he did check you and he did find you were a dt, I can think of quite a few ways that check might be incorrect.
Either way on your alignment, you have two people willing to follow your bad plan.
Palmar is a viable lynch candidate.
This leads me to WBG and Tyrran. If your town, they might be trying to buddy up to Palmar, and if he is scum it was a chainsaw defence when Forumite voted him from at least one of them.
Tyrran doesn't really stand out, after getting in your good graces, he seems to have trailed off and just followed Palmar. Given that he has been wrong on the lynches so far, I find this suspicious.
WBG seems to be everywhere, using some pretty bad logic to accuse people, and has a huge focus on the Coagulation lynch.
For some reason he seems to be intentionally discounting the possibility that scum might have been voting Coagulation, busses aren't uncommon, and Coagulation seemed to set himself up for the lynch rather nicely with the mass voting.
It seems like the perfect opportunity to grab another list that has the people he wants on it.
We already knew Coagulation was being mod-killed, why did we need to lynch him?
I would suspect WBG first out of these two.
The survivng medics:
DCLXVI. Why would he claim miller? I can't make much sense of it. If mafia has some sort of framer to make themselves look town, he wouldn't bother claiming miller to save himself from checks. This is either a ploy, to make people not trust the red-check on him because there is no mafia role like that, or the truth.
Zephirdd claimed a role-blocking medic, which is convenient for a scum roleblocker as Forumite pointed out before he died, but also in line with any jail keeper role.
Xsksc has an ability based on the number of lynches that just so happens not to work if multiple of his targets get hit. I'm inclined to believe him over the other two at any rate.
On Lanaia: The ability seems like a second version of Coagulation. I'm inclined to believe they are on different teams, because theyr abilities are really good.
Finally, Sabin010, I looked at his filter and he looks pretty scummy. I'll make an argument if I'm still alive, but he seems to be scum.
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Note that lemon confirms palmars claim AFTER palmar said it, so he could be bs'ing, I don't know
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The fistpounds do nothing you asshole, I'm just being a funnyman.
I already claimed in full.
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