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On November 25 2011 19:42 Palmar wrote:
Killing these people (+ the people who don't care) should be a good idea.
Something like
##Vote Cyber_Cheese
##Vote Forumit
##Vote Sabin010
##Vote DCLXVI
##Vote xsksc
Let's leave the others for now.
Can I request Coagulation be modkilled for inactivity? In addition Kibibit should be pretty close to a modkill.
I do not agree on DCLXVI. It is unlikely that both him and Cyber_cheese are scum, since they both visited me day 1, and his medic claim makes sense, much more sense that Cyber town tracker claim.
On November 25 2011 20:08 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 20:01 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 25 2011 19:43 Forumite wrote:On November 25 2011 19:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
Forumite do you even know what a chainsaw defense is? He´s attacking those voting him, so close enough. The chainsaw defence is you and Tyrran going to Palmars defence whenever anyone doubts him. Look back to my fakevote, minutes after both of you jumped forward and questioned my alignment. Anyway this is not about what you and Tyrran did, I´m voting Palmar because he´s attacking anyone doubting him and threatening to give up if we don´t follow his lead. It´s an underhanded tactic, and I don´t like it. It definetly doesn´t help Town right now. Tyrran and I are only chainsaw defending Palmar if the following are true: 1. All 3 of us are scum 2. We defend Palmar not by actually defending him but ignoring him and attacking you instead Neither of those things are true, I know that for a fact. Please stop spouting garbage. I can´t know if 1 is true, and 2 isn´t required, it´s just a general sense of the defence. You can´t honestly say that the last turn, Palmar calling everyone bad, isn´t more focused on the voter rather than defending Palmar. This isn´t an exact science, scum know what Chainsaw Defence is and will try to avoid it, but this affair with Palmar giving up, and you and Tyrran defending him unquestioningly, reminds me of a Scum Chainsaw Defence, because of the coordination and focus on throwing doubt on the attacker.
Actually, its closer to a Town Chainsaw defense. Palmar is hugely likely to be town ( if you are not convinced, please carefully read his filter until you are), and is by far the best town player. Anyone trying to lynch him or start a bandwagon against him is either scum or really bad, and thus is a good candidate for lynching.
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I have a 100% sure reason to believe Palmar is town, it's not just a guess.
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On November 25 2011 19:58 Forumite wrote:
Hmmm. Right now I´m being voted on by the three musketeers (Palmar, WBG Tyrran), Coag (votes everyone), Zeph (OMGUS), Bum and RoL. Only Bum and RoL stand out, I expected the others.
Anyone wanna be D'artagnan ? We need to get rid of the scum, lead by Milady and the Cardinal de Richelieu !!
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On November 25 2011 20:12 Tyrran wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 20:08 Forumite wrote:On November 25 2011 20:01 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 25 2011 19:43 Forumite wrote:On November 25 2011 19:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
Forumite do you even know what a chainsaw defense is? He´s attacking those voting him, so close enough. The chainsaw defence is you and Tyrran going to Palmars defence whenever anyone doubts him. Look back to my fakevote, minutes after both of you jumped forward and questioned my alignment. Anyway this is not about what you and Tyrran did, I´m voting Palmar because he´s attacking anyone doubting him and threatening to give up if we don´t follow his lead. It´s an underhanded tactic, and I don´t like it. It definetly doesn´t help Town right now. Tyrran and I are only chainsaw defending Palmar if the following are true: 1. All 3 of us are scum 2. We defend Palmar not by actually defending him but ignoring him and attacking you instead Neither of those things are true, I know that for a fact. Please stop spouting garbage. I can´t know if 1 is true, and 2 isn´t required, it´s just a general sense of the defence. You can´t honestly say that the last turn, Palmar calling everyone bad, isn´t more focused on the voter rather than defending Palmar. This isn´t an exact science, scum know what Chainsaw Defence is and will try to avoid it, but this affair with Palmar giving up, and you and Tyrran defending him unquestioningly, reminds me of a Scum Chainsaw Defence, because of the coordination and focus on throwing doubt on the attacker. Actually, its closer to a Town Chainsaw defense. Palmar is hugely likely to be town ( if you are not convinced, please carefully read his filter until you are), and is by far the best town player. Anyone trying to lynch him or start a bandwagon against him is either scum or really bad, and thus is a good candidate for lynching.
Read his filter until I´m convinced? Really? Is "Palmar is Town" a big truth that can not be contradicted?
You know he´s been doing a few weird things in the thread, this latest with giving up obviously the biggest one, and I´m not comfortable with letting it go. Palmar has acted Town, but he´s also been leading Town to absolutely nothing, we´re still no closer to finding Scum. I want to make sure that Palmar isn´t deceiving us, instead of just hope for the best and follow him blindly.
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On November 25 2011 20:14 xsksc wrote:
I have a 100% sure reason to believe Palmar is town, it's not just a guess.
rofl, look at that.
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On November 25 2011 20:14 xsksc wrote:
I have a 100% sure reason to believe Palmar is town, it's not just a guess.
Could you elaborate? You´ve basically softclaimed detective, so you might as well hardclaim too.
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On November 25 2011 20:21 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 20:12 Tyrran wrote:On November 25 2011 20:08 Forumite wrote:On November 25 2011 20:01 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 25 2011 19:43 Forumite wrote:On November 25 2011 19:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
Forumite do you even know what a chainsaw defense is? He´s attacking those voting him, so close enough. The chainsaw defence is you and Tyrran going to Palmars defence whenever anyone doubts him. Look back to my fakevote, minutes after both of you jumped forward and questioned my alignment. Anyway this is not about what you and Tyrran did, I´m voting Palmar because he´s attacking anyone doubting him and threatening to give up if we don´t follow his lead. It´s an underhanded tactic, and I don´t like it. It definetly doesn´t help Town right now. Tyrran and I are only chainsaw defending Palmar if the following are true: 1. All 3 of us are scum 2. We defend Palmar not by actually defending him but ignoring him and attacking you instead Neither of those things are true, I know that for a fact. Please stop spouting garbage. I can´t know if 1 is true, and 2 isn´t required, it´s just a general sense of the defence. You can´t honestly say that the last turn, Palmar calling everyone bad, isn´t more focused on the voter rather than defending Palmar. This isn´t an exact science, scum know what Chainsaw Defence is and will try to avoid it, but this affair with Palmar giving up, and you and Tyrran defending him unquestioningly, reminds me of a Scum Chainsaw Defence, because of the coordination and focus on throwing doubt on the attacker. Actually, its closer to a Town Chainsaw defense. Palmar is hugely likely to be town ( if you are not convinced, please carefully read his filter until you are), and is by far the best town player. Anyone trying to lynch him or start a bandwagon against him is either scum or really bad, and thus is a good candidate for lynching. Read his filter until I´m convinced? Really? Is "Palmar is Town" a big truth that can not be contradicted? You know he´s been doing a few weird things in the thread, this latest with giving up obviously the biggest one, and I´m not comfortable with letting it go. Palmar has acted Town, but he´s also been leading Town to absolutely nothing, we´re still no closer to finding Scum. I want to make sure that Palmar isn´t deceiving us, instead of just hope for the best and follow him blindly.
Maybe the reason we're not closer to finding scum is people listening to you instead of me?
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On November 25 2011 20:22 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 20:21 Forumite wrote:On November 25 2011 20:12 Tyrran wrote:On November 25 2011 20:08 Forumite wrote:On November 25 2011 20:01 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 25 2011 19:43 Forumite wrote:On November 25 2011 19:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
Forumite do you even know what a chainsaw defense is? He´s attacking those voting him, so close enough. The chainsaw defence is you and Tyrran going to Palmars defence whenever anyone doubts him. Look back to my fakevote, minutes after both of you jumped forward and questioned my alignment. Anyway this is not about what you and Tyrran did, I´m voting Palmar because he´s attacking anyone doubting him and threatening to give up if we don´t follow his lead. It´s an underhanded tactic, and I don´t like it. It definetly doesn´t help Town right now. Tyrran and I are only chainsaw defending Palmar if the following are true: 1. All 3 of us are scum 2. We defend Palmar not by actually defending him but ignoring him and attacking you instead Neither of those things are true, I know that for a fact. Please stop spouting garbage. I can´t know if 1 is true, and 2 isn´t required, it´s just a general sense of the defence. You can´t honestly say that the last turn, Palmar calling everyone bad, isn´t more focused on the voter rather than defending Palmar. This isn´t an exact science, scum know what Chainsaw Defence is and will try to avoid it, but this affair with Palmar giving up, and you and Tyrran defending him unquestioningly, reminds me of a Scum Chainsaw Defence, because of the coordination and focus on throwing doubt on the attacker. Actually, its closer to a Town Chainsaw defense. Palmar is hugely likely to be town ( if you are not convinced, please carefully read his filter until you are), and is by far the best town player. Anyone trying to lynch him or start a bandwagon against him is either scum or really bad, and thus is a good candidate for lynching. Read his filter until I´m convinced? Really? Is "Palmar is Town" a big truth that can not be contradicted? You know he´s been doing a few weird things in the thread, this latest with giving up obviously the biggest one, and I´m not comfortable with letting it go. Palmar has acted Town, but he´s also been leading Town to absolutely nothing, we´re still no closer to finding Scum. I want to make sure that Palmar isn´t deceiving us, instead of just hope for the best and follow him blindly. Maybe the reason we're not closer to finding scum is people listening to you instead of me?
You don´t have much hope of Nisani flipping Scum, do you?
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On November 25 2011 20:21 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 20:12 Tyrran wrote:On November 25 2011 20:08 Forumite wrote:On November 25 2011 20:01 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 25 2011 19:43 Forumite wrote:On November 25 2011 19:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
Forumite do you even know what a chainsaw defense is? He´s attacking those voting him, so close enough. The chainsaw defence is you and Tyrran going to Palmars defence whenever anyone doubts him. Look back to my fakevote, minutes after both of you jumped forward and questioned my alignment. Anyway this is not about what you and Tyrran did, I´m voting Palmar because he´s attacking anyone doubting him and threatening to give up if we don´t follow his lead. It´s an underhanded tactic, and I don´t like it. It definetly doesn´t help Town right now. Tyrran and I are only chainsaw defending Palmar if the following are true: 1. All 3 of us are scum 2. We defend Palmar not by actually defending him but ignoring him and attacking you instead Neither of those things are true, I know that for a fact. Please stop spouting garbage. I can´t know if 1 is true, and 2 isn´t required, it´s just a general sense of the defence. You can´t honestly say that the last turn, Palmar calling everyone bad, isn´t more focused on the voter rather than defending Palmar. This isn´t an exact science, scum know what Chainsaw Defence is and will try to avoid it, but this affair with Palmar giving up, and you and Tyrran defending him unquestioningly, reminds me of a Scum Chainsaw Defence, because of the coordination and focus on throwing doubt on the attacker. Actually, its closer to a Town Chainsaw defense. Palmar is hugely likely to be town ( if you are not convinced, please carefully read his filter until you are), and is by far the best town player. Anyone trying to lynch him or start a bandwagon against him is either scum or really bad, and thus is a good candidate for lynching. Read his filter until I´m convinced? Really? Is "Palmar is Town" a big truth that can not be contradicted? You know he´s been doing a few weird things in the thread, this latest with giving up obviously the biggest one, and I´m not comfortable with letting it go. Palmar has acted Town, but he´s also been leading Town to absolutely nothing, we´re still no closer to finding Scum. I want to make sure that Palmar isn´t deceiving us, instead of just hope for the best and follow him blindly.
he's not doing anything weird. He's acting like a frustrated townie.
You, on the other hand, are either braindead or scum. It's too bad that each is equally likely, otherwise we'd know what you are by now.
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On November 25 2011 20:24 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 20:22 Palmar wrote:On November 25 2011 20:21 Forumite wrote:On November 25 2011 20:12 Tyrran wrote:On November 25 2011 20:08 Forumite wrote:On November 25 2011 20:01 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 25 2011 19:43 Forumite wrote:On November 25 2011 19:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
Forumite do you even know what a chainsaw defense is? He´s attacking those voting him, so close enough. The chainsaw defence is you and Tyrran going to Palmars defence whenever anyone doubts him. Look back to my fakevote, minutes after both of you jumped forward and questioned my alignment. Anyway this is not about what you and Tyrran did, I´m voting Palmar because he´s attacking anyone doubting him and threatening to give up if we don´t follow his lead. It´s an underhanded tactic, and I don´t like it. It definetly doesn´t help Town right now. Tyrran and I are only chainsaw defending Palmar if the following are true: 1. All 3 of us are scum 2. We defend Palmar not by actually defending him but ignoring him and attacking you instead Neither of those things are true, I know that for a fact. Please stop spouting garbage. I can´t know if 1 is true, and 2 isn´t required, it´s just a general sense of the defence. You can´t honestly say that the last turn, Palmar calling everyone bad, isn´t more focused on the voter rather than defending Palmar. This isn´t an exact science, scum know what Chainsaw Defence is and will try to avoid it, but this affair with Palmar giving up, and you and Tyrran defending him unquestioningly, reminds me of a Scum Chainsaw Defence, because of the coordination and focus on throwing doubt on the attacker. Actually, its closer to a Town Chainsaw defense. Palmar is hugely likely to be town ( if you are not convinced, please carefully read his filter until you are), and is by far the best town player. Anyone trying to lynch him or start a bandwagon against him is either scum or really bad, and thus is a good candidate for lynching. Read his filter until I´m convinced? Really? Is "Palmar is Town" a big truth that can not be contradicted? You know he´s been doing a few weird things in the thread, this latest with giving up obviously the biggest one, and I´m not comfortable with letting it go. Palmar has acted Town, but he´s also been leading Town to absolutely nothing, we´re still no closer to finding Scum. I want to make sure that Palmar isn´t deceiving us, instead of just hope for the best and follow him blindly. Maybe the reason we're not closer to finding scum is people listening to you instead of me? You don´t have much hope of Nisani flipping Scum, do you?
Depends how you define scum.
If we use the definition "A player who increases the mafia's chance of winning" then, he's 100% scum.
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On November 25 2011 20:22 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 20:14 xsksc wrote:
I have a 100% sure reason to believe Palmar is town, it's not just a guess. rofl, look at that.
It's to do with my role. I don't want to claim yet unless I have to. What's so funny about that?
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On November 25 2011 20:26 xsksc wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 20:22 Palmar wrote:On November 25 2011 20:14 xsksc wrote:
I have a 100% sure reason to believe Palmar is town, it's not just a guess. rofl, look at that. It's to do with my role. I don't want to claim yet unless I have to. What's so funny about that?
Palmar thinks it´s funny that a blue claimed to save him.
I don´t trust a claim until it´s a real claim. I don´t care about your role and full powers, but I want to know what night action make you 100% sure that Palmar is Town?
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rofl you don't need a blue claim to know Palmar is very likely to be town, you just need a brain.
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On November 25 2011 20:28 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 20:26 xsksc wrote:On November 25 2011 20:22 Palmar wrote:On November 25 2011 20:14 xsksc wrote:
I have a 100% sure reason to believe Palmar is town, it's not just a guess. rofl, look at that. It's to do with my role. I don't want to claim yet unless I have to. What's so funny about that? Palmar thinks it´s funny that a blue claimed to save him. I don´t trust a claim until it´s a real claim. I don´t care about your role and full powers, but I want to know what night action make you 100% sure that Palmar is Town?
Short of knowing the scum teams powers, I don't think that's possible...
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On November 25 2011 20:25 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 20:24 Forumite wrote:On November 25 2011 20:22 Palmar wrote:On November 25 2011 20:21 Forumite wrote:On November 25 2011 20:12 Tyrran wrote:On November 25 2011 20:08 Forumite wrote:On November 25 2011 20:01 wherebugsgo wrote:On November 25 2011 19:43 Forumite wrote:On November 25 2011 19:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
Forumite do you even know what a chainsaw defense is? He´s attacking those voting him, so close enough. The chainsaw defence is you and Tyrran going to Palmars defence whenever anyone doubts him. Look back to my fakevote, minutes after both of you jumped forward and questioned my alignment. Anyway this is not about what you and Tyrran did, I´m voting Palmar because he´s attacking anyone doubting him and threatening to give up if we don´t follow his lead. It´s an underhanded tactic, and I don´t like it. It definetly doesn´t help Town right now. Tyrran and I are only chainsaw defending Palmar if the following are true: 1. All 3 of us are scum 2. We defend Palmar not by actually defending him but ignoring him and attacking you instead Neither of those things are true, I know that for a fact. Please stop spouting garbage. I can´t know if 1 is true, and 2 isn´t required, it´s just a general sense of the defence. You can´t honestly say that the last turn, Palmar calling everyone bad, isn´t more focused on the voter rather than defending Palmar. This isn´t an exact science, scum know what Chainsaw Defence is and will try to avoid it, but this affair with Palmar giving up, and you and Tyrran defending him unquestioningly, reminds me of a Scum Chainsaw Defence, because of the coordination and focus on throwing doubt on the attacker. Actually, its closer to a Town Chainsaw defense. Palmar is hugely likely to be town ( if you are not convinced, please carefully read his filter until you are), and is by far the best town player. Anyone trying to lynch him or start a bandwagon against him is either scum or really bad, and thus is a good candidate for lynching. Read his filter until I´m convinced? Really? Is "Palmar is Town" a big truth that can not be contradicted? You know he´s been doing a few weird things in the thread, this latest with giving up obviously the biggest one, and I´m not comfortable with letting it go. Palmar has acted Town, but he´s also been leading Town to absolutely nothing, we´re still no closer to finding Scum. I want to make sure that Palmar isn´t deceiving us, instead of just hope for the best and follow him blindly. Maybe the reason we're not closer to finding scum is people listening to you instead of me? You don´t have much hope of Nisani flipping Scum, do you? Depends how you define scum. If we use the definition "A player who increases the mafia's chance of winning" then, he's 100% scum.
Fair enough, I can´t really argue with that, even though I doubt he´s flipping as the mafia variant.
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On November 25 2011 20:29 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 20:28 Forumite wrote:On November 25 2011 20:26 xsksc wrote:On November 25 2011 20:22 Palmar wrote:On November 25 2011 20:14 xsksc wrote:
I have a 100% sure reason to believe Palmar is town, it's not just a guess. rofl, look at that. It's to do with my role. I don't want to claim yet unless I have to. What's so funny about that? Palmar thinks it´s funny that a blue claimed to save him. I don´t trust a claim until it´s a real claim. I don´t care about your role and full powers, but I want to know what night action make you 100% sure that Palmar is Town? Short of knowing the scum teams powers, I don't think that's possible...
I don´t think it´s possible to know 100% either, but xsksc says he´s 100% sure.
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Who cares what he's flipping at this point? He's guaranteed to flip, it's pointless to discuss Nisani till he actually flips. Good god.
Right now the focus of the debate should be on whether or not Forumite, Zephirdd, and MrZentor should die today. I am of the opinion that they all need to die.
All in favor, please vote them. If you would like additional reiteration/explanation/handholding, please ask me. Or, just fucking read the thread yourself.
This game is incredibly frustrating, all your heads are so incredibly thick.
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Concerning Zephirrd, I think it is still to early to vote for him.
He actually has been defending Prplhz, and also was the target of Forumite. I say Forumite is a better target for today. Also, let not forget Sabin010.
This is his filter : http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366&user=111639, And you will find in mine my case against him. He promised an analysis of everyplayer that never came. I dont trust him.
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There are so many lurkers, not just Sabin010. Coag and Kibibit are hardcore lurking too, even got warnings for it.
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On November 25 2011 20:26 xsksc wrote:Show nested quote +On November 25 2011 20:22 Palmar wrote:On November 25 2011 20:14 xsksc wrote:
I have a 100% sure reason to believe Palmar is town, it's not just a guess. rofl, look at that. It's to do with my role. I don't want to claim yet unless I have to. What's so funny about that?
I want to know if I should believe your claim.
Can you give any additional information about your role?
I'm actually suggesting a mass-claim now that we have like 8 townies who have claimed anyway. It's not like mafia is lacking targets now.
xsksc will be the first to claim. (I have a good reason for this).
After that, everyone claim please. do NOT hold off your claims, as that's incredibly scummy.
I will claim immediately after xsksc has claimed.
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