No, I admit I confused the names. I know igrok+bum are dead but I don't give a fuck about their name of choice. The fact that you are using that as evidence and change your vote to whoever is suspicious of you says a lot about your aligment.

sandroba

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November 06 2011 18:42 GMT

#716

Vote: Team Chezinu

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November 06 2011 18:49 GMT

#718

Wbg, have you and rad been discussing the game at all? How much?

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November 06 2011 19:16 GMT

#721

So he is reading the whole thread and agrees with you on all your points on chaoser, right? Cool.
You built a huge case on chaoser, most of which I think is no indication at all of scum behaviour. The main thing that is bothering me about chaoser's team is the fact that he was posting so much when his ass was on the line, despite saying he would not be playing so activily, coupled with the fact that hyshes is gone after causing suspicion to be placed on his team. That is indeed suspicious behaviour from the team as a whole, but a couple other things like hyshes openess in the beginning and chaoser's posts make me lean town on them.

You on the other hand completely dismissed the case you build on chaoser despite claiming both you and your teamate being on the same page on it. All of that because I pointed to the fact that were you town your team was the most obvious shot. The bullshit about blue snipe makes no sense. Your team had the same chance of being medic/jailer as igrok's team or any other team. It makes no sense that scum would leave you alive to try to push your team today, as you had no previous suspicion on you before. Scum is not willing to fight this uphill battle and expose themselves in the process. This is a fact: If your team is town your team was the best shot by far based on both skill and activity. That's not equal you are scum by itself, since scum not always play optimaily and can sometimes try to be tricky. But it IS a reason to be suspicious. What really points toward you being scum is you dismissing your case and changing your vote because I called one team another name. That says shit about my aligment and is no reason to vote. You are pushing scum agenda since you are voting whoever is suspicious of you, and not looking at the big picture of who is saying things with scum mentality (which is you).

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November 06 2011 19:26 GMT

#725

So tell me which evidence you have that I'm not reading the thread, because I am. Also tell which are the things you dissagree with me and how that makes me scum.

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November 06 2011 20:25 GMT

#730

I've read your case on chaoser and said already that I don't think it is any good. The fact is that what tipped the edge on you thinking my team was a "better lynch" is that I confused one team name for another, which is ROFL.
Also I' was not speculating at all about igrok's kill. I was saying that it is a fact that if you and rad are town you would be the best shot. I don't think anyone can argue otherwise.
Now onto some speculation, blue sniping is shit in such a small game. Blues are not going to be inactive because they are trying to hide, since because there are so few players their behaviour will be extremelly exposed as oposed to a huge game when they can blend in. That's not to say it wasn't the case, but the whole point of this game is determining which scenarios are most likely. I can't find any good reasoning for igrok/bum kill besides you guys being scum. If scum wanted to simply push more suspicion onto my team they could have killed you guys either way and igrok would prob vote for me today.

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November 07 2011 05:25 GMT

#756

wbg if somehow you are town this game you are a retard. A suiting nickname following your own line of thought would be wheredidmybrainsgo. You are sprouting nonsense and most of the stuff you said about me regarding both previous games and the current one are flat out lies, but it really seems that you actually believe them. My meta is actually quite easy to determine, when I'm scum I try to look town and when I'm town I don't care about how suspicious I am when I'm stiring things up.
I'm hoping radfield could post more tomorrow and tell me what he thinks so I can actually get a more acurate read without having to sort through all your nonsense.

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November 07 2011 05:50 GMT

#758

First I didn't parrot w/e kurumi said, he beat me to it and I explained how in my opinion a double no lynch was statistically beneficial to the town. That thought was reinforced after kita claimed p-cop, making no lynch an even better option. Second in pyp mig never posted any plan and my plan was not a parrot of what rad was saying, I even had to convince him that not denying those roles was a better move (and would have pretty much proposed the same thing as town / was a mistake doing it as mafia). PYP I posted an extremlly pro town plan that really did go a long way making people believe I was town. This game I posted some controversial shit that could be argued both ways and would certainly not give me any townie points.
You also acuse me of pushing easy lynches when I'm saying you are scum now and previously said I didn't want to lynch anyone day1. Huh?

sandroba

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November 07 2011 20:08 GMT

#812

K I'm back. To be honest I'm not sure on who is scum right now. I really think one of either team chezinu and team edward pretty much has to be scum. The second one I belive is team nipple in both cases so I guess it's best if we lynch them first. Kurumi is not trolling at all this game and that is something he normally does as mafia.
Don't lynch my team, we are not scum.

##Unvote
##Vote: Team nipple

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November 07 2011 20:16 GMT

#816

I think kurumi/rol are mafia either way and I'm not sure on who from you/rad and chaoser/hyshes is mafia. So I'm gonna vote kurumi/rol. Problem?

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November 07 2011 20:27 GMT

#826

Well it's kinda hard to see things clearly when people suspect you and you know you are town. To me it really seems like wbg is trying to get us lynch and ignoring a lot of evidence that point to us being town (like me forgeting switzerland was dead and me an decon lack of sync in thread). But I admit I'm biased here since a lot of people share that opinion apparently so I'm willing to give more time to team chezinu and lynch nipple instead. And yeah nipple I think is scum due to inactivity/kurumi not trolling/process of elimination. Everyone besides nipple/chezinu/edward I believe to be town and I don't think edward and chezinu can be scum toghether so that leaves nipple as sure scum. Decon dissagrees and thinks team liquid may be scum instead, but I don't see a reason why they would defend us ytd being mafia, when we could very easily have been lynched.

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November 07 2011 20:30 GMT

#829

wbg my god man you nitpick at phrasing errors when you KNOW they are just that: errors. Everyone and their mother knows that kurumi only trolls hard when he is town. I'm saying he is mafia due to LACK of trolling.

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November 07 2011 20:34 GMT

#834

Yo wbg stop calling people names man. I know I called you a retard previously and for that I apologize, but I wanted to see how well you take it. You are certainly going overboard and some people may not enjoy it.

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November 07 2011 20:35 GMT

#835

He didn't troll that game kita and he pretty much lurked hard just like this game. I played in that game.

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November 07 2011 20:44 GMT

#845

On November 08 2011 05:39 Kurumi wrote:

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That's the worst argument I've ever heard.
First, I am not trolling because I am trying to treat this game seriously, I haven't played in a while.
Second, I wasn't trolling in LSB's game - Merc Mini 2. I was town. I died N1. Fucking tripmines.
Third, RoL told me he would beat me up if I would troll.
Also, both Your cases are fucking bad as hell. "Radfield alive, Radfield scum!" "Kurumi not troll, Kurumi scum!"

Exactly how are you treating this game seriously? I was waiting for you to point LSB game out, because it's true, you didn't troll that game and you were town. However, you invested a lot of time in that game and was actively calling people out and trying to succeed. This game you have done nothing, so your excuse can't be that you are trying to treat it seriously. An excuse that would be acceptable is that you have been busy and had no time to troll, but that's not the truth. The truth is that you are provinding exactly that: excuses for your "hide in a corner" behaviour. RoL is not even here to stop you from doing anything and it's not like you listen to anyone even when the whole town is telling you to stop trolling (ie personality mafia).
You scum bro.

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November 07 2011 20:46 GMT

#846

can someone unvote me, kurumi can hammer us at any moment.

sandroba

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November 07 2011 21:05 GMT

#862

Man anyone I challenge you to take anything I said and pin it to a mafia agenda which is to hide and avoid suspicion.

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November 07 2011 21:25 GMT

#867

1. I posted a controvesial plan that could be argued both ways to get reactions from people. The fact that I think no lynch was indeed optimal day 1 doesn't change the fact that people would most certainly have a strong response to this in one way or another. You ask me then who is mafia from those reactions? I ask you the same. The reactions are there for anyone to see and draw conclusions. As for who I think is mafia you already know that.

2. I acused wbg of being mafia after he dropped his case on chaoser and switched his vote to me due to a typo. Previously I said the fact that rad/wbg were not shot was suspcious, but not enough to assure they are mafia. Now I'm not really sure anymore on wbg anymore, because he could very well believe so much he is right and be completely wrong as proven by XLV, which I read to refresh my memory.

3. I layed a trap for kurumi when saying he was not trolling and thus mafia and he responded in a way that makes me feel very confident he is mafia, as pointed out in my post about his behaviour.

4. The other contributing factor that leads me to believe wbg may indeed be town and misguided is the fact that chaoser is looking worse and worse, sheeping wbg who he previously believed was mafia and voting me. I went against his lynch when wbg was pushing it as loudly as he is pushing mine right now. If he was town he would know that I had to be really stupid as mafia to do that in that spot. Chaoser doesn't share this mentality (which a townie would for sure consider), so I believe he is more likely to be mafia than wbg right now. The fact that he dissapeared the moment the focus shifted away from him and now he is back supporting someone he previously called scum to make sure a townie gets lynched is enough to tip the scale heavily towards chaoser being scum as opposed to wbg.

sandroba

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November 07 2011 21:30 GMT

#868

In fact after typing that it way more likely chaoser is mafia at this point and I'd be willing to lynch him or nipple.

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