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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 21:27 GMT
#1341
On November 10 2011 06:25 redFF wrote:
##Vote Team Chezinu

olawd


you're stupid, really.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 21:28 GMT
#1346
I cannot believe this.

I'm glad you guys think I'm so good, that I would be capable of leading town astray for 3 days straight by myself, with 3 afk scumbuddies.

Good god.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 21:30 GMT
#1353
THEY ARE NOT TOWN

Occam's razor SIMPLEST explanation. Good FUCKING god.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 21:31 GMT
#1356
Fuck you kurumi.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 21:31 GMT
#1357
also fuck you red
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 21:32 GMT
#1362
On November 10 2011 06:29 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 06:28 wherebugsgo wrote:
I cannot believe this.

I'm glad you guys think I'm so good, that I would be capable of leading town astray for 3 days straight by myself, with 3 afk scumbuddies.

Good god.

You did it in pony mafia.


this is false and you know it.

You hosted that game.

You saw me try to lynch Nisani over and over. we did not shoot him.

In what world does any of what happened make sense with me being scum?
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 21:33 GMT
#1372
-_-

gg scum
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 21:53 GMT
#1396
On November 10 2011 06:52 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 06:48 Kurumi wrote:
I fold. Who cares about RoL.

yeah wbg lost you guys the game when he said it was impossible he was scum with GM.


yeah...

this was an uphill battle all game. We were punished for the fact that the PC appeared scummy.

This game was bs IMO, town was terrible and we got punished for finding the medic on n1 and the PC claiming n1?

such a joke. We needed a roleblocker and we would've won.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 21:54 GMT
#1401
plus a medic fake claim on n2 into not lynching him wtf?

seriously this setup was really imbalanced IMO
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 21:55 GMT
#1402
On November 10 2011 06:54 Curu wrote:
Also scum concedes in LYLO wtf?

Why would you do that...


cause Kurumi doesn't like playing to his wincon...
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 21:57 GMT
#1406
On November 10 2011 06:55 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 06:54 wherebugsgo wrote:
plus a medic fake claim on n2 into not lynching him wtf?

seriously this setup was really imbalanced IMO

lol it was balanced shut up


no...

someone even pointed out that scum missing a roleblocker means that it inherently is not balanced.

PC can claim n1 and scum have to gamble.

Doc plus PC where PC claims day 1 and there is no roleblocker=we were dead from day 1. There was nothing we could do to stop the check going through on day 3 and if we tried shooting the PC we would've been killed even harder.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 21:57 GMT
#1409
I mean really when mafia is punished for forcing a role claim you know something is wrong with the setup.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 21:58 GMT
#1411
On November 10 2011 06:57 redFF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 06:55 wherebugsgo wrote:
On November 10 2011 06:54 Curu wrote:
Also scum concedes in LYLO wtf?

Why would you do that...


cause Kurumi doesn't like playing to his wincon...

you outed him as scum


no, there was nothing else I could do on LYLO when all 3 of my buddies were completely AFK all game.

You guys derped into winning. It was unbelievably frustrating.

Some of the logic on day 3 was atrocious.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 21:58 GMT
#1413
On November 10 2011 06:57 Kurumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 06:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
I mean really when mafia is punished for forcing a role claim you know something is wrong with the setup.

stop thinking about the roles, starts thinking about playing the game


Kurumi stop telling me about playing the game when you did nothing to help your team.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-10 00:12:50
November 09 2011 22:00 GMT
#1417
The situation was so messed up beyond recognition that literally anything could've happened on day 3. You guys basically just lucked out into killing me.

It was 50/50 for us to win on day 3 and that's with two mislynches in a row.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 22:04 GMT
#1421
This is the situation we faced this game:

http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Follow_the_Cop

it's really only breakable with a roleblocker. I wouldn't call the setup imbalanced if I hadn't experienced it myself (I'm not blaming anyone, I don't blame Palmar, I'm just saying that in the future this needs to be changed)

IMO mafia should never be punished for forcing a roleclaim. People claiming and then loling to victory is just crazy stupid IMO. This game is about analysis, not dumb luck.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 22:07 GMT
#1425
also planning shit is impossible when all 3 of your scumbuddies are gone.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 22:09 GMT
#1428
On November 10 2011 07:06 GMarshal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 10 2011 07:04 wherebugsgo wrote:
This is the situation we faced this game:

http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Follow_the_Cop

it's really only breakable with a roleblocker. I wouldn't call the setup imbalanced if I hadn't experienced it myself (I'm not blaming anyone, I don't blame Palmar, I'm just saying that in the future this needs to be changed)

IMO mafia should never be punished for forcing a roleclaim. People claiming and then loling to victory is just crazy stupid IMO. This game is about analysis, not dumb luck.

That is why I argued for either a roleblocker/framer or a miller in the pregame, DT is just too powerful without it, especially if there is a high probability of protection roles being present.


roleblocker would've balanced the setup, IMO.

I personally just hate roleclaims. If I ever host a game I will probably punish roleclaimers very hard.

TL towns tend to believe any role claim fed to them, but that's a big problem when generally only townies gain from roleclaims.

Very rarely do scum roleclaims actually gain scum anything. Sometimes you see them do something but more often than not mafia only really gain from counterclaiming.

Counterclaiming on day 1 this game would've taken balls, but we would've been dead day 2 and that wouldn't have been good.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 22:10 GMT
#1432
On November 10 2011 07:07 redFF wrote:
honestly wbg we weren't even a full cop. the lynch was between you and s&g and you lost.

[image loading]


yeah, I lost.

I can tell you for a fact I'm not ashamed of my loss. I don't particularly care, particularly as I wouldn't have done anything differently if I was put in the same exact situation a second time.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
November 09 2011 22:16 GMT
#1441
I couldn't bus Kurumi when he and RoL both came in at extremely odd times to soft defend us.

I even repeatedly sent Kurumi PMs telling him what I wanted him to do and every single time I'd look in the thread and there'd be this random single post that would make me and Radfield look like shit.

And I disagree with you completely on the day 3 business. I really don't think I got lynched on day 3 for any fault of my own. That lynch literally could've swung either way, and all the facts were on my side.

I know for a fact I would've hated to be in GM's or super's shoes as town. We were in a good spot. Town just flipped a coin and it landed correctly.

Also follow the cop IS an issue with the parity. All they need to do is check people who don't die and they have more than enough information on day 3. We couldn't do anything about a day 1 claim. That isn't our fault at all.
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