EPTOn November 10 2011 06:25 redFF wrote:
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you're stupid, really.
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you're stupid, really. | ||
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I'm glad you guys think I'm so good, that I would be capable of leading town astray for 3 days straight by myself, with 3 afk scumbuddies. Good god. | ||
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Occam's razor SIMPLEST explanation. Good FUCKING god. | ||
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this is false and you know it. You hosted that game. You saw me try to lynch Nisani over and over. we did not shoot him. In what world does any of what happened make sense with me being scum? | ||
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gg scum | ||
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On November 10 2011 06:52 redFF wrote: yeah wbg lost you guys the game when he said it was impossible he was scum with GM. yeah... this was an uphill battle all game. We were punished for the fact that the PC appeared scummy. This game was bs IMO, town was terrible and we got punished for finding the medic on n1 and the PC claiming n1? such a joke. We needed a roleblocker and we would've won. | ||
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seriously this setup was really imbalanced IMO | ||
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On November 10 2011 06:54 Curu wrote: Also scum concedes in LYLO wtf? Why would you do that... cause Kurumi doesn't like playing to his wincon... | ||
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no... someone even pointed out that scum missing a roleblocker means that it inherently is not balanced. PC can claim n1 and scum have to gamble. Doc plus PC where PC claims day 1 and there is no roleblocker=we were dead from day 1. There was nothing we could do to stop the check going through on day 3 and if we tried shooting the PC we would've been killed even harder. | ||
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no, there was nothing else I could do on LYLO when all 3 of my buddies were completely AFK all game. You guys derped into winning. It was unbelievably frustrating. Some of the logic on day 3 was atrocious. | ||
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On November 10 2011 06:57 Kurumi wrote: stop thinking about the roles, starts thinking about playing the game Kurumi stop telling me about playing the game when you did nothing to help your team. | ||
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It was 50/50 for us to win on day 3 and that's with two mislynches in a row. | ||
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http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Follow_the_Cop it's really only breakable with a roleblocker. I wouldn't call the setup imbalanced if I hadn't experienced it myself (I'm not blaming anyone, I don't blame Palmar, I'm just saying that in the future this needs to be changed) IMO mafia should never be punished for forcing a roleclaim. People claiming and then loling to victory is just crazy stupid IMO. This game is about analysis, not dumb luck. | ||
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On November 10 2011 07:06 GMarshal wrote: That is why I argued for either a roleblocker/framer or a miller in the pregame, DT is just too powerful without it, especially if there is a high probability of protection roles being present. roleblocker would've balanced the setup, IMO. I personally just hate roleclaims. If I ever host a game I will probably punish roleclaimers very hard. TL towns tend to believe any role claim fed to them, but that's a big problem when generally only townies gain from roleclaims. Very rarely do scum roleclaims actually gain scum anything. Sometimes you see them do something but more often than not mafia only really gain from counterclaiming. Counterclaiming on day 1 this game would've taken balls, but we would've been dead day 2 and that wouldn't have been good. | ||
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On November 10 2011 07:07 redFF wrote: honestly wbg we weren't even a full cop. the lynch was between you and s&g and you lost. ![[image loading]](http://operatorchan.org/vg/arch/src/vg33255_deal%20with%20it%20gabe.png) yeah, I lost. I can tell you for a fact I'm not ashamed of my loss. I don't particularly care, particularly as I wouldn't have done anything differently if I was put in the same exact situation a second time. | ||
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I even repeatedly sent Kurumi PMs telling him what I wanted him to do and every single time I'd look in the thread and there'd be this random single post that would make me and Radfield look like shit. And I disagree with you completely on the day 3 business. I really don't think I got lynched on day 3 for any fault of my own. That lynch literally could've swung either way, and all the facts were on my side. I know for a fact I would've hated to be in GM's or super's shoes as town. We were in a good spot. Town just flipped a coin and it landed correctly. Also follow the cop IS an issue with the parity. All they need to do is check people who don't die and they have more than enough information on day 3. We couldn't do anything about a day 1 claim. That isn't our fault at all. | ||
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