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On March 07 2012 18:51 Palmar wrote:
Scum faced multiple problems this game. I'm not completely certain on how they could've tackled them better. But I think playing more for the long term would've worked better. Blazinghand was already a consideration for a team and due to his high activity he was at least managing to throw dust in my eyes. There's very little scum can do about me figuring out two townies and suggesting them with me, they have to rely on townies being wrong in that situation.

The correct play would've been for kita or chaos to oppose my team, and for blazinghand to align himself with us. Even at the cost of the team succeeding. By this point prplhz was still being lazy, and even though he later became the most obvious townie in the history of obvious townies, he was certainly not an auto-addition even if he supported this team. Getting Blazinghand on and sabotaging day 2 would've at least given scum a fighting chance.

I am not certain, but it might have been a good strategy for scum to start discrediting me hard right from the get-go, put me on the defensive. If you wait until I have shown that my reads are good, you're always going to be fighting from the back-foot. In a setup where no one is ever going to flip, tunneling the most likely townie to cause you trouble is not a bad idea. Once I established my reads and suggested my team, Blazinghand's attempt at discrediting me had no chance of succeeding except maybe convincing the two townies who weren't reading the thread properly.

By the time they allowed us to thoroughly establish the voting blocks by repeatedly suggesting new teams the scum just dug themselves a bigger hole. Kita's posting was uncharacteristically blatant. chaos13 rode the muddy waters along with the scum-aligned-townies, but as soon as VE's sense snapped in it was game over for scum. I think it's an absolutely terrifying position for scum to be in to have aligned themselves all against a strong town voting block. They need to make sure that they're on both sides of the argument.

Talking about town play. It was very rewarding to play in such a good town atmosphere. 4 out of the 6 townies quickly realized what was going on in the thread and continued to vote as a strong block until the game ended. I am no longer impressed by prplhz's strong analytical town play, he's quickly proving to be one of the best town players on TL in my opinion, so I've come to expect great things from him. More pleasantly surprising was Dirkzor's and Navillus's performance this game, they quickly established their innocence and the aligned themselves with the correct faction. Navillus needs to post more to be helpful, but the first step toward being a great townie is to know when to listen and what side to take. You don't have to be right, you just have to agree with the people who are right.

The two townies who didn't manage to figure out the game as fast as the other four might have been at a slight disadvantage from the beginning. Especially comparing a new player like Sentinel to other players like Dirk and Nav is maybe a bit unfair because it's easier for Dirk and Nav to know I'm right since they only have to agree with two reads, while Sentinel would have to accept three reads. That's just a harder thing to do.

VE is probably the most swingy player on TL, at his best he can smash down scum teams, bomb godfathers and has the invaluable ability to look ridiculously town when he is, and at his worst he ignores blatant information in the thread and aligns himself with scum. The latter is the VE that we saw this game. In the opening stages of the game he yayvoted two mafia infested teams, while shooting down two complete townie teams. If VE had shown up in good shape, scum would've been smashed ages ago, and I say this because I know he is capable of better performance than this.

VE's understanding later in the game was the nail in mafia's coffin. And despite him being as completely wrong as he was, he still maintained that ability to look very towny, and thus in a way contributed greatly to our victory.

Overall I'm very pleased with this game. This game is in many ways more rewarding to play than mafia, for both factions. I had a lot of fun and I'm sorry for once again calling everyone dumb, except of course when they were.

I am for the most part happy about my own performance this game. I did get a town team figured out very fast and I pushed it hard, revealing one scum to me in form of BH's ridiculous defense. When I started adding people to my list of townies I was never wrong, ending up with the 5 player block of prplhz, VE, Dirk and Nav.

I am slightly annoyed I didn't manage to convince town more easily. This game is a perfect example of a game where scum screws up a bit, but yet manages to confuse town for a long while because the leaders of town aren't doing a good enough job of convincing people, and part of town is not reading or understanding the thread properly.

Most importantly through, I thoroughly enjoy playing with everyone that played in this game. It made this game one of the more fun experiences I've had in mafia, believe it or not. chaos13 going afk was unfortunate but the game was figured out by then anyway.

Thanks for a good game.