[10/14/2011 6:26:36 PM] Meapak Ziphh: Hi sandro.maculan! I’d like to add you on Skype. Meapak Ziphh
[10/14/2011 6:26:46 PM] Sandro Maculan: Sandro Maculan has shared contact details with Meapak Ziphh.
[10/14/2011 6:26:50 PM] Sandro Maculan: hey
[10/14/2011 6:27:17 PM] Meapak Ziphh: hey
[10/14/2011 6:27:32 PM] Meapak Ziphh: can you please explain this whole mess with Mig and Syllo?
[10/14/2011 6:27:41 PM] Sandro Maculan: yes
[10/14/2011 6:27:49 PM] Sandro Maculan: what do you want to know
[10/14/2011 6:27:54 PM] Sandro Maculan: specifically
[10/14/2011 6:28:21 PM] Meapak Ziphh: why will syllo follow mig to the moon
[10/14/2011 6:28:24 PM] Meapak Ziphh: for starters
[10/14/2011 6:28:35 PM] Meapak Ziphh: and why won't they release skype logs
[10/14/2011 6:28:55 PM] Sandro Maculan: let me just ask you
[10/14/2011 6:29:10 PM] Sandro Maculan: do you think syllo is town from that log of me and him
[10/14/2011 6:29:14 PM] Meapak Ziphh: no
[10/14/2011 6:29:20 PM] Sandro Maculan: exactly
[10/14/2011 6:29:22 PM] Meapak Ziphh: but not only from that log
[10/14/2011 6:29:26 PM] Sandro Maculan: that only means something
[10/14/2011 6:29:28 PM] Meapak Ziphh: there are other logs people have posted
[10/14/2011 6:29:33 PM] Sandro Maculan: to someone who you know well
[10/14/2011 6:29:43 PM] Sandro Maculan: and have meta from previous game
[10/14/2011 6:29:53 PM] Sandro Maculan: me/syllo/mig know each other pretty well
[10/14/2011 6:29:59 PM] Meapak Ziphh: right
[10/14/2011 6:30:13 PM] Sandro Maculan: and I know he wouldn't do that as mafia on that spot
[10/14/2011 6:30:31 PM] Sandro Maculan: you played personality where I could pm people
[10/14/2011 6:30:54 PM] Sandro Maculan: he lurked heavily on skype
[10/14/2011 6:31:05 PM] Sandro Maculan: talked to me the bare minimum
[10/14/2011 6:31:33 PM] Sandro Maculan: and even considered suicide bombing me night one because of the pressure
[10/14/2011 6:31:55 PM] Sandro Maculan: he couldn't lie, he dodged and avoided questions
[10/14/2011 6:32:23 PM] Sandro Maculan: I mean syllo btw
[10/14/2011 6:32:31 PM] Sandro Maculan: than mig I wasn't sure at first
[10/14/2011 6:32:48 PM] Sandro Maculan: but I hadn't talked to him a lot earlier
[10/14/2011 6:33:12 PM] Sandro Maculan: and syllo was pretty sure he was town
[10/14/2011 6:33:21 PM] Sandro Maculan: but right now
[10/14/2011 6:33:29 PM] Sandro Maculan: I'm confident as fuck he is town
[10/14/2011 6:33:47 PM] Sandro Maculan: from skype convos
[10/14/2011 6:34:19 PM] Meapak Ziphh: ok skpe decided to die
[10/14/2011 6:34:23 PM] Meapak Ziphh: sorry
[10/14/2011 6:34:26 PM] Meapak Ziphh: lemme read this
[10/14/2011 6:34:33 PM] Sandro Maculan: did you get my msgs?
[10/14/2011 6:34:46 PM] Meapak Ziphh: yeah
[10/14/2011 6:34:48 PM] Meapak Ziphh: just read them
[10/14/2011 6:35:04 PM] Meapak Ziphh: ugh
[10/14/2011 6:35:12 PM] Meapak Ziphh: there's one thing I hate doing
[10/14/2011 6:35:23 PM] Meapak Ziphh: it's blind faith
[10/14/2011 6:35:30 PM] Sandro Maculan: it's not blind
[10/14/2011 6:35:30 PM] Meapak Ziphh: from me
[10/14/2011 6:35:31 PM] Meapak Ziphh: from me
[10/14/2011 6:35:39 PM] Sandro Maculan: it's based on analysis
[10/14/2011 6:35:42 PM] Sandro Maculan: well yeah
[10/14/2011 6:35:43 PM] Meapak Ziphh: yes
[10/14/2011 6:35:48 PM] Sandro Maculan: you should talk to them
[10/14/2011 6:35:51 PM] Sandro Maculan: too
[10/14/2011 6:35:52 PM] Meapak Ziphh: analysis which you had experience collecting
[10/14/2011 6:36:02 PM] Meapak Ziphh: I don't have the same frame you do
[10/14/2011 6:36:18 PM] Meapak Ziphh: if syllo said to me what he said to you I'd be ready o lynch him now
[10/14/2011 6:36:20 PM] Sandro Maculan: well yeah
[10/14/2011 6:36:35 PM] Sandro Maculan: I have no such strong read on other players
[10/14/2011 6:37:02 PM] Sandro Maculan: hmm well you guys have no raport
[10/14/2011 6:37:19 PM] Sandro Maculan: taht makes no sense to say to another player
[10/14/2011 6:37:34 PM] Meapak Ziphh: yeah
[10/14/2011 6:37:41 PM] Meapak Ziphh: I understand that
[10/14/2011 6:37:49 PM] Meapak Ziphh: and I understand why you think he's town
[10/14/2011 6:37:54 PM] Meapak Ziphh: and I respect your read
[10/14/2011 6:37:58 PM] Meapak Ziphh: but put yourself in my shoes
[10/14/2011 6:38:19 PM] Meapak Ziphh: to an outsider that looks like lynchable material
[10/14/2011 6:38:39 PM] Meapak Ziphh: It's very hard for me just to take someone's word because of previous meta
[10/14/2011 6:38:47 PM] Sandro Maculan: that would be stupid as fuck to do as mafia
[10/14/2011 6:38:50 PM] Sandro Maculan: though lol
[10/14/2011 6:38:55 PM] Meapak Ziphh: what would
[10/14/2011 6:39:05 PM] Meapak Ziphh: what syllo did?
[10/14/2011 6:39:19 PM] Sandro Maculan: what he is doing
[10/14/2011 6:39:24 PM] Sandro Maculan: what mig is doing
[10/14/2011 6:39:32 PM] Meapak Ziphh: true and true
[10/14/2011 6:39:41 PM] Sandro Maculan: tieing themselves toghether this early
[10/14/2011 6:39:44 PM] Meapak Ziphh: but it's the same thing with dropbear
[10/14/2011 6:40:03 PM] Meapak Ziphh: I got an angry pm from him when I said I'd lynch him because I thought he claimed scum
[10/14/2011 6:40:26 PM] Meapak Ziphh: I didn't read his post close enough, but he'd done enough earlier shananegins with framer that I was already suspicious of him
[10/14/2011 6:40:35 PM] Meapak Ziphh: he used the "that would be retarded as mafia" line
[10/14/2011 6:40:40 PM] Sandro Maculan: dropbear is doing retarded shit despite alignment
[10/14/2011 6:40:58 PM] Sandro Maculan: but he was trying to get attention
[10/14/2011 6:41:10 PM] Meapak Ziphh: idk what his problem is
[10/14/2011 6:41:22 PM] Meapak Ziphh: but it's things like that which make me nervous
[10/14/2011 6:41:37 PM] Meapak Ziphh: I don't like letting people get away with "that'd be retarded as mafia"
[10/14/2011 6:42:05 PM] Sandro Maculan: well that normally works though
[10/14/2011 6:42:17 PM] Sandro Maculan: like mafia doesn't do random shit
[10/14/2011 6:42:25 PM] Sandro Maculan: that pulls a ton of suspicion
[10/14/2011 6:42:27 PM] Sandro Maculan: for no reason
[10/14/2011 6:42:35 PM] Meapak Ziphh: well I beg to differ... RoL...
[10/14/2011 6:42:37 PM] Meapak Ziphh: yeah
[10/14/2011 6:42:38 PM] Meapak Ziphh: lol
[10/14/2011 6:42:46 PM] Sandro Maculan: I was pretty convinced he was scum
[10/14/2011 6:42:52 PM] Meapak Ziphh: in Insane 2?
[10/14/2011 6:42:56 PM] Sandro Maculan: when he claimed to be picking framer
[10/14/2011 6:43:05 PM] Sandro Maculan: no I mean dropbear
[10/14/2011 6:43:06 PM] Meapak Ziphh: oh db
[10/14/2011 6:43:08 PM] Meapak Ziphh: yeah
[10/14/2011 6:43:24 PM] Meapak Ziphh: to me it seemed like a mafia trying to explain a future rolechekc
[10/14/2011 6:43:36 PM] Sandro Maculan: I made a post to why there is no townie reasoning to doing that
[10/14/2011 6:43:55 PM] Sandro Maculan: especially on his # and even more so claim that you are doing it
[10/14/2011 6:44:08 PM] Sandro Maculan: but when I thought about it
[10/14/2011 6:44:20 PM] Sandro Maculan: it seemed retarded from a mafia angle aswel
[10/14/2011 6:44:31 PM] Meapak Ziphh: yeah
[10/14/2011 6:44:35 PM] Meapak Ziphh: lol
[10/14/2011 6:44:41 PM] Meapak Ziphh: what do you think of radfeild?
[10/14/2011 6:44:51 PM] Sandro Maculan: I'm leaning town right now
[10/14/2011 6:45:00 PM] Sandro Maculan: but not as strongly as syllo/mig
[10/14/2011 6:45:11 PM] Sandro Maculan: but between the other candidates
[10/14/2011 6:45:27 PM] Sandro Maculan: I would rather it be him than the others
[10/14/2011 6:45:42 PM] Meapak Ziphh: I think he's town too
[10/14/2011 6:45:47 PM] Sandro Maculan: if syllo/mig is not possible
[10/14/2011 6:45:53 PM] Meapak Ziphh: but I think he's doing a pisspoor job leading it
[10/14/2011 6:46:11 PM] Meapak Ziphh: he reminds me of drh where drh was constantly second guessing himself
[10/14/2011 6:46:14 PM] Sandro Maculan: well right now
[10/14/2011 6:46:17 PM] Meapak Ziphh: he just pulled his second 180
[10/14/2011 6:46:25 PM] Meapak Ziphh: I don't think changing your mind makes you scum
[10/14/2011 6:46:29 PM] Sandro Maculan: people seem confused about the me/syllo/mig deal
[10/14/2011 6:46:38 PM] Sandro Maculan: and I'm sure scum are riding it
[10/14/2011 6:46:44 PM] Sandro Maculan: since there are plenty
[10/14/2011 6:46:46 PM] Meapak Ziphh: but it doesn't make you a good decider of the first lynch
[10/14/2011 6:46:49 PM] Meapak Ziphh: and yeah I agree with that
[10/14/2011 6:46:52 PM] Sandro Maculan: and radfield is suportig us
[10/14/2011 6:46:56 PM] Meapak Ziphh: it's a perfect wedge issue
[10/14/2011 6:46:57 PM] Sandro Maculan: so yeah
[10/14/2011 6:47:25 PM] Meapak Ziphh: what do you think about jimbo?
[10/14/2011 6:47:37 PM] Sandro Maculan: I'm pretty sure he is scum
[10/14/2011 6:47:51 PM] Sandro Maculan: look at the page he acuses me
[10/14/2011 6:48:12 PM] Sandro Maculan: and see him back pedalling when I call him out on his poor logic
[10/14/2011 6:48:14 PM] Meapak Ziphh: which one?
[10/14/2011 6:48:27 PM] Sandro Maculan: I'll find it gimme a sec
[10/14/2011 6:49:05 PM] Sandro Maculan:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=269956¤tpage=29[10/14/2011 6:49:42 PM] Meapak Ziphh: boy though, back to rad, he really is doing his best drh impression
[10/14/2011 6:49:48 PM] Meapak Ziphh: he has soooo many post
[10/14/2011 6:50:09 PM] Sandro Maculan: he is pretty much always like that no?
[10/14/2011 6:50:18 PM] Sandro Maculan: at least on the games I've played with him
[10/14/2011 6:50:31 PM] Meapak Ziphh: idk I only played pypinsane with him
[10/14/2011 6:51:13 PM] Meapak Ziphh: you know it's interesting
[10/14/2011 6:51:16 PM] Sandro Maculan: well from past experience he is just being radfield
[10/14/2011 6:51:24 PM] Sandro Maculan: he does that despite alignment
[10/14/2011 6:51:25 PM] Meapak Ziphh: I actually agree with a lot of what Jimbo said
[10/14/2011 6:51:28 PM] Meapak Ziphh: the bad part is
[10/14/2011 6:51:34 PM] Meapak Ziphh: he sounds so weak once you start pussing
[10/14/2011 6:51:43 PM] Meapak Ziphh: pushing*
[10/14/2011 6:51:52 PM] Meapak Ziphh: he brought up some decent points
[10/14/2011 6:52:02 PM] Sandro Maculan: which are
[10/14/2011 6:52:03 PM] Meapak Ziphh: but you pushed back and he almost completely folded
[10/14/2011 6:52:13 PM] Meapak Ziphh: lemme c/p
[10/14/2011 6:52:50 PM] Meapak Ziphh: To quote a conversation I had with Syllo,
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Syllo: that's how mafia tends to work though, people sheep opinions of others.
Jimbo: And you are OK with them sheeping you???
Syllo: Yes. Of course if I want someone elected, I need support .
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This is terrible play. You should NEVER rely on sheep to help you elect people, (to say nothing of the people sheeping). You don’t get a reaction that can help you gauge the situation, you effectively half the information that you should be basing your decisions off of. People NEED to form opinions of their own. Especially this early in the game, NOBODY should be trusting people enough to base decisions as important as mayor on another person. When Sandro and Arcto began saying things like “I trust syllo’s read on Mig” HUGE red flags went up in my head. We haven’t even had a flip/claim/information event yet, and already people trust someone that much!? It doesn’t make sense for smart townies to play this way, and I KNOW that sandro and Syllo are smart players.
[10/14/2011 6:53:13 PM] Meapak Ziphh: at that point, without a lot know yet about you, syllo and company he has a point
[10/14/2011 6:53:28 PM] Sandro Maculan: how so?
[10/14/2011 6:53:40 PM] Sandro Maculan: don't you think scum/town votes on a townie mayor
[10/14/2011 6:53:51 PM] Sandro Maculan: is equaly as valuable right now
[10/14/2011 6:54:09 PM] Sandro Maculan: If I can pummel people down
[10/14/2011 6:54:19 PM] Sandro Maculan: until they give in voting to who I think it's best for town
[10/14/2011 6:54:30 PM] Sandro Maculan: I don't mind at all
[10/14/2011 6:54:40 PM] Sandro Maculan: lol
[10/14/2011 6:55:01 PM] Meapak Ziphh: sorry had to let my sister in the house
[10/14/2011 6:55:11 PM] Sandro Maculan: or you mean the trust part
[10/14/2011 6:55:21 PM] Sandro Maculan: I did explain that to him previously
[10/14/2011 6:55:24 PM] Meapak Ziphh: the trust part and the sheeping part
[10/14/2011 6:55:32 PM] Sandro Maculan: and he told me on that same convo he posted
[10/14/2011 6:55:47 PM] Sandro Maculan: that he may be willing to step down
[10/14/2011 6:55:56 PM] Meapak Ziphh: hmm
[10/14/2011 6:56:14 PM] Meapak Ziphh: well anyway, I understand the "get elected at all costs" mentality
[10/14/2011 6:56:18 PM] Sandro Maculan: of course he could be town lying to try to extract info
[10/14/2011 6:56:30 PM] Meapak Ziphh: but it isn't particularly townie one
[10/14/2011 6:56:31 PM] Meapak Ziphh: anyway
[10/14/2011 6:56:37 PM] Meapak Ziphh: this is all kinda moot
[10/14/2011 6:56:47 PM] Sandro Maculan: do you understand that doesn't prevent us from finding scum
[10/14/2011 6:56:55 PM] Sandro Maculan: we just don't want to scare people off
[10/14/2011 6:56:59 PM] Meapak Ziphh: Jimbo's responses to what you said makes his earleier argumetns null
[10/14/2011 6:57:05 PM] Sandro Maculan: of voting afraid of being auto lynched
[10/14/2011 6:57:07 PM] Meapak Ziphh: yeah
[10/14/2011 6:57:26 PM] Sandro Maculan: there are 12 freaking scum this game man
[10/14/2011 6:57:32 PM] Meapak Ziphh: you're gonna have problems getting elected
[10/14/2011 6:57:35 PM] Sandro Maculan: you pretty much need scum to vote you
[10/14/2011 6:58:04 PM] Meapak Ziphh: unless you can talk with every single person in the game 1 on 1 people are still gonna be uncomfortable
[10/14/2011 6:58:26 PM] Meapak Ziphh: the only reason I'm not trying to lynch syllo is because of what you've told me
[10/14/2011 6:58:30 PM] Sandro Maculan: I've talked to a fuckton of people
[10/14/2011 6:58:37 PM] Meapak Ziphh: it's gonna take 1on1 explanations
[10/14/2011 6:58:39 PM] Meapak Ziphh: ok
[10/14/2011 6:58:39 PM] Meapak Ziphh: good
[10/14/2011 6:59:31 PM] Meapak Ziphh: read the exchange between wherebugsgo and prhplz and tell me what you think
[10/14/2011 6:59:41 PM] Meapak Ziphh: second to last page
[10/14/2011 6:59:48 PM] Sandro Maculan: I'm caught up
[10/14/2011 7:00:03 PM] Sandro Maculan: well wbg thinks I'm scum
[10/14/2011 7:00:04 PM] Meapak Ziphh: wbg sounds way to defensive
[10/14/2011 7:00:15 PM] Meapak Ziphh: I don't even know where prphlz came from
[10/14/2011 7:00:28 PM] Meapak Ziphh: but wbg got waay to rilled up
[10/14/2011 7:00:33 PM] Sandro Maculan: I think he is suspcious yes
[10/14/2011 7:00:45 PM] Sandro Maculan: but I'm not confident on him
[10/14/2011 7:00:56 PM] Meapak Ziphh: lol I'm not saying he's 100% scum
[10/14/2011 7:01:06 PM] Meapak Ziphh: I was just making sure I wasn't the only one seeing something wierd
[10/14/2011 7:01:28 PM] Sandro Maculan: well from our conversations
[10/14/2011 7:01:43 PM] Sandro Maculan: I can tell you that he is not reading the thread carefully
[10/14/2011 7:01:56 PM] Meapak Ziphh: well he's been banned before for inactivity
[10/14/2011 7:02:04 PM] Meapak Ziphh: it wouldn't surprise me if that happens again
[10/14/2011 7:02:07 PM] Sandro Maculan: and refuses to back off when called out on some of his bad logic
[10/14/2011 7:02:20 PM] Meapak Ziphh: oh wait are you talking about wbg?
[10/14/2011 7:02:28 PM] Sandro Maculan: yes
[10/14/2011 7:02:34 PM] Sandro Maculan: who are you talking about
[10/14/2011 7:02:42 PM] Meapak Ziphh: prplhz
[10/14/2011 7:02:52 PM] Meapak Ziphh: I think I modkilled him in the game I hosted lolol
[10/14/2011 7:02:54 PM] Sandro Maculan: prplhz
[10/14/2011 7:02:57 PM] Sandro Maculan: tbh
[10/14/2011 7:03:07 PM] Sandro Maculan: I don't bother much to read his posts carefully until late game
[10/14/2011 7:03:28 PM] Sandro Maculan: because he doesn't provide much despite alignment
[10/14/2011 7:03:48 PM] Meapak Ziphh: yeah
[10/14/2011 7:03:56 PM] Sandro Maculan: he can vote for townies to be lynched the whole game
[10/14/2011 7:04:03 PM] Sandro Maculan: without failing
[10/14/2011 7:04:05 PM] Sandro Maculan: and be town in the end
[10/14/2011 7:04:10 PM] Sandro Maculan: easily
[10/14/2011 7:04:23 PM] Sandro Maculan: so I don't eve try to analyse him
[10/14/2011 7:04:24 PM] Meapak Ziphh: lol
[10/14/2011 7:04:27 PM] Meapak Ziphh: ugh
[10/14/2011 7:04:33 PM] Meapak Ziphh: bumatlarge is giving me that feeling he did during drh's mingame
[10/14/2011 7:04:42 PM] Meapak Ziphh: the worst part is
[10/14/2011 7:04:54 PM] Meapak Ziphh: I could dissect his posts and not find anything obviously wrong
[10/14/2011 7:04:57 PM] Sandro Maculan: man
[10/14/2011 7:05:08 PM] Sandro Maculan: like I'm pretty sure mig/syllo are town
[10/14/2011 7:05:15 PM] Sandro Maculan: I think rad is town
[10/14/2011 7:05:31 PM] Sandro Maculan: your inventor shenaningans make you seem town to me
[10/14/2011 7:05:49 PM] Sandro Maculan: as I don't think mafia would bother with that
[10/14/2011 7:06:06 PM] Sandro Maculan: so that leaves
[10/14/2011 7:06:10 PM] Meapak Ziphh: for a second I forgot why you knew and I was like FUCK
[10/14/2011 7:06:13 PM] Sandro Maculan: most other vets
[10/14/2011 7:06:16 PM] Sandro Maculan: as scum
[10/14/2011 7:06:33 PM] Meapak Ziphh: was that an oblique way of agreeing with me on bum

[10/14/2011 7:06:37 PM] Sandro Maculan: like wiggles/chaoser/bum/jimbo etc
[10/14/2011 7:06:45 PM] Sandro Maculan: hahaha yeah
[10/14/2011 7:06:51 PM] Meapak Ziphh: who is jimbo's main
[10/14/2011 7:06:54 PM] Meapak Ziphh: it's driving me nuts
[10/14/2011 7:07:03 PM] Sandro Maculan: I believe it to be kav
[10/14/2011 7:07:09 PM] Meapak Ziphh: really
[10/14/2011 7:07:12 PM] Meapak Ziphh: fascinating
[10/14/2011 7:07:21 PM] Sandro Maculan: well
[10/14/2011 7:07:26 PM] Sandro Maculan: didn't you read the logs?
[10/14/2011 7:07:39 PM] Meapak Ziphh: which ones?
[10/14/2011 7:07:48 PM] Sandro Maculan: between me/jimbo
[10/14/2011 7:08:05 PM] Meapak Ziphh: not the entirity
[10/14/2011 7:08:09 PM] Meapak Ziphh: just skimmed it
[10/14/2011 7:08:20 PM] Sandro Maculan: he is pretty much kav or gm
[10/14/2011 7:08:31 PM] Meapak Ziphh: well then he's scum
[10/14/2011 7:08:31 PM] Sandro Maculan: and since gm is on the round tabble
[10/14/2011 7:08:50 PM] Meapak Ziphh: because kav is someone who I can almost always tell when he's town
[10/14/2011 7:09:07 PM] Sandro Maculan: I'm pretty sure he is
[10/14/2011 7:09:27 PM] Meapak Ziphh: hmmm well I've talked with him a bit
[10/14/2011 7:09:33 PM] Meapak Ziphh: time to put all that in a new context
[10/14/2011 7:09:43 PM] Sandro Maculan: =)
[10/14/2011 7:11:05 PM] Meapak Ziphh: as a complete tangent, I love the GOGO VER @MLG thread
[10/14/2011 7:12:18 PM] Sandro Maculan: yeah man
[10/14/2011 7:12:28 PM] Sandro Maculan: ver is pretty baller =P
[10/14/2011 7:12:58 PM] Sandro Maculan: he is a sick nerd baller lol
[10/14/2011 7:12:59 PM] Meapak Ziphh: I played BGH with him, RoL, and foolishness one time
[10/14/2011 7:13:09 PM] Meapak Ziphh: he was like the easy button
[10/14/2011 7:13:20 PM] Meapak Ziphh: one game RoL and I started team killing each other
[10/14/2011 7:13:24 PM] Meapak Ziphh: we still facerolled them
[10/14/2011 7:13:35 PM] Sandro Maculan: hahaha
[10/14/2011 7:13:38 PM] Meapak Ziphh: he would have like three bases on BGH
[10/14/2011 7:13:44 PM] Meapak Ziphh: RoL are derping around
[10/14/2011 7:13:51 PM] Sandro Maculan: bgh times man
[10/14/2011 7:13:51 PM] Meapak Ziphh: foolishness is doing his own thing
[10/14/2011 7:13:55 PM] Sandro Maculan: those were the best
[10/14/2011 7:14:02 PM] Sandro Maculan: so much shit talking going on
[10/14/2011 7:14:05 PM] Sandro Maculan: that gif
[10/14/2011 7:14:16 PM] Sandro Maculan: describes it pretty accurately
[10/14/2011 7:14:27 PM] Meapak Ziphh: lol
[10/14/2011 7:14:46 PM] Meapak Ziphh: heist lol
[10/14/2011 7:14:54 PM] Meapak Ziphh: we've got a ninja voter
[10/14/2011 7:16:59 PM] Sandro Maculan: heist is on my ignore list too
[10/14/2011 7:17:09 PM] Sandro Maculan: so I don't mind much taht he didn't explain his vote lol
[10/14/2011 7:17:47 PM] Meapak Ziphh: he's on my "most likely gonna get modkilled" list
[10/14/2011 7:19:12 PM] Sandro Maculan: greymist/sinani/hero/heist/prpl
[10/14/2011 7:19:24 PM] Sandro Maculan: those guys are hard to tell appart
[10/14/2011 7:19:29 PM] Sandro Maculan: scum from town
[10/14/2011 7:19:42 PM] Sandro Maculan: they are scummy as fuck no matter what
[10/14/2011 7:19:45 PM] Meapak Ziphh: yeah
[10/14/2011 7:19:58 PM] Meapak Ziphh: they're all like kenpachi juniors
[10/14/2011 7:20:06 PM] Sandro Maculan: hahaha
[10/14/2011 7:20:12 PM] Sandro Maculan: but kenpachi kinda has his tells
[10/14/2011 7:20:53 PM] Meapak Ziphh: but you can only see them after having played a million games with him
[10/14/2011 7:21:04 PM] Sandro Maculan: I've played like 5
[10/14/2011 7:21:22 PM] Sandro Maculan: I think I can get him right after a couple days
[10/14/2011 7:21:43 PM] Meapak Ziphh: I wonder if he actually took vt
[10/14/2011 7:22:07 PM] Sandro Maculan: lol prob not
[10/14/2011 7:22:12 PM] Sandro Maculan: as scum or town
[10/14/2011 7:22:18 PM] Sandro Maculan: I can't see that happening
[10/14/2011 7:22:29 PM] Sandro Maculan: he just claims vt every game
[10/14/2011 7:22:54 PM] Sandro Maculan: I can't recal him doing it this game though
[10/14/2011 7:24:01 PM] Meapak Ziphh: he already has
[10/14/2011 7:24:05 PM] Meapak Ziphh: he said he'd take it
[10/14/2011 7:24:09 PM] Meapak Ziphh: and then with his mayor post
[10/14/2011 7:24:13 PM] Meapak Ziphh: he put his name in greeen
[10/14/2011 7:26:29 PM] Sandro Maculan: you mean veteran
[10/14/2011 7:26:39 PM] Sandro Maculan: or vanilla
[10/14/2011 7:27:32 PM] Sandro Maculan: doesn't mean anything to me though
[10/14/2011 7:28:10 PM] Meapak Ziphh: vanilla
[10/14/2011 7:31:38 PM] Sandro Maculan: I'm off to bed man
[10/14/2011 7:31:43 PM] Sandro Maculan: ttyl
[10/14/2011 7:31:59 PM] Meapak Ziphh: alright
[10/14/2011 7:32:03 PM] Meapak Ziphh: I'm glad we had this talk
[10/14/2011 7:32:16 PM] Sandro Maculan: me too
[10/14/2011 7:32:16 PM] Meapak Ziphh: I feel slightly better about this whole syllo mig thing now
[10/14/2011 7:32:23 PM] Sandro Maculan: =P
[10/14/2011 7:32:28 PM] Sandro Maculan: gnight man
[10/14/2011 7:32:30 PM] Meapak Ziphh: night
[10/15/2011 6:02:23 PM] Meapak Ziphh: sorry man
[10/15/2011 6:02:25 PM] Meapak Ziphh: I can't do it
[10/15/2011 6:03:11 PM] Meapak Ziphh: I'm not gonna blindly take someone else's gut choice over my own
[10/17/2011 9:46:30 PM] Meapak Ziphh: let me guess
[10/17/2011 9:46:39 PM] Meapak Ziphh: you had a little talk with palmar
[10/17/2011 9:46:45 PM] Meapak Ziphh: and let slip that you're a bg
[10/17/2011 9:46:52 PM] Meapak Ziphh: what I'm still trying to find out though is why