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wtffffffffffffffff why would you wait until now to reveal that - I have literally 0 time to assess whether I should believe it or not.
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On September 28 2011 07:42 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2011 07:40 OriginalName wrote:On September 28 2011 07:38 chaoser wrote:
Calling bullshit on it The only thing it has going for it in my books is that it seems like too much effort to fake, but that in and of itself is kind of a null tell. Kitaman has had to have all the info dragged out at the last minute like he wanted to stifle dissucussion and create a last minute lynch as late as possible. Im not moving an inch. Not a single person is able to counter claim that Radfield was in contact with me. There is no way Radfield would contact his own teammate on night one. EVERYONE SHOULD BE SWITCHING TO CHAOSER.
Because that person might have died on the same night as Radfield :/.
But I have no clue why you chose this time to post all of that when you could have posted that a few hours back to prove your innocence.
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Yes, kitaman post the QT dump and then I'll consider voting for chaoser.
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Oh damn. Fine, I'll trust you on this kitaman. At the very least, I believe that you are a tracker, while chaoser is 3rd party.
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On September 28 2011 07:53 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +[6:52:30 PM] Charles Suo: you can paraphrase but no you cant give out the link or the whole QT Post parts of the QT and I'll vote ON. Else it's stays on you
Not ON, kitaman said that he checked him - and he didn't visit anyone last night.
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Fine, all this for kitaman's life. I don't understand why this couldn't have been posted earlier.
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Wow, I come back expecting to see Curu post the lynch post - and this is what I get.
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On September 28 2011 09:04 heist wrote:
Just look at this list:
Greymist
raynpelikoneet
jcarlsoniv
TranceStorm
Out of these 4, at least 1 is mafia. Bet on it.
The vote switch was to save kitaman - who confirmed himself as town tracker. I forget who suggested ON, but eventually kitaman decided to vote for him so we followed to save kitaman.
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On September 29 2011 11:26 chaoser wrote:
I also don't mind actual claiming, I am:
Theon Greyjoy, the Kraken's heir, previously the SK Treasure Hunter now the Vanilla Townie
I was going to write an epic win post too...
Are you trolling us or something? Why on earth would a character from another story (not to mention the fact that he isn't one of the major major characters) be put in a theme game? That makes absolutely 0 sense. I know you've 'breadcrumbed' this, but why would another a character from another universe be introduced as a 3rd party looking for the ring?
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Curu's having too much fun at our expense I suppose...
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Anyways, I'm voting for Cyber_Cheese again - his defense of iGrok - plus his preference of lynching chaoser over iGrok (despite having killed Radfield). His response to that claim was:
On September 27 2011 21:17 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2011 14:15 TranceStorm wrote:Anyways, if you are looking for a discrepancy in terms of players who defended iGrok while they wanted chaoser dead, then look at this quote here: On September 25 2011 03:26 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On September 25 2011 03:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 25 2011 02:58 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
I don't think killing iGrok is the optimal source of information when if we kill someone likely to be scum we can draw links between that person and others. We let him off yesterday, I don't really get why it's suddenly a huge mistake to have done that.
Go back and look at the claims of chaoser and igrok, if we must kill a neutral party, chaoser is the optimal choice.
However, keeping the third party for now might be better because any serial killers within it have a reasonable chance of hitting more of the remaining mafia.
Ideally, I would lynch Palmar today for being entirely useless and acting very scummy. I don't see that happening, so I'm going to
##Unvote
I'm going to vote ON because he was one of the people that followed both of Radfield's vote swings, among other previously listed reasons that convinced me.
##Vote OriginalName Why do you prefer chaoser lynch over iGrok, given the facts; 1) chaoser shot scum 2) iGrok didn't shoot anyone, instead he comes up with a Saruman over OriginalName. iGrok was wierdly enough checking ON night 2, when he was pretty sure Palmar is scum (at least he stated so). Why did he check ON over Palmar? The only reason i can think of is that he checked Palmar night 1. Is that so iGrok? Also he comes with this "ON being Saruman" thing just after heist and Pyo have accused ON. Don't you find it suspicious? Bottom line first, of course it's suspicious, that doesn't make it impossible. That claim wasn't one of the things that convinced me, because it likely was convenient lie. I wouldn't even put it past him to have found the real Saruman and lied about who rather than be forced out of that information so far from the lynch. Chaoser attacked the person who was leading the town best, The fact Radfield flipped scum doesn't necessarily excuse that. I'm not sure about iGrok's reasoning, but learning he could be blocked changed things. The rest of the difference between the two of them in my eyes is related to their claims. Chaoser used a claim that sounded relatively safe, but had many mistakes like Boromir as a neutral party when he was party of the fellowship and a 'win with town' victory condition. iGrok's is nothing near safe and is relatively more believable. Cyber_cheese has defended iGrok throughout the game. Both chaoser and iGrok made suspicious remarks in their claims that were pointed out. However, chaoser has the saving grace of having shot Radfield (no one has counter-claimed) yet Cyber_Cheese says its a better idea to knock off chaoser and has earlier argued for 'controlling' iGrok as well. I noteably didn't want to kill either, I just wanted to kill the one who claimed to have more kp first. I stick by Palmar being our best lynch.
Before I was drawn into the whole kitaman lynch thing, I made an argument against Cyber_Cheese about his defense of iGrok. He says that he only wanted to kill the one who 'claimed to have more kp first'. But, that's not what he said earlier at all. Read the quoted part and you will notice that said multiple contradictory things.
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On September 30 2011 03:24 Cyber_Cheese wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2011 02:04 chaoser wrote:On September 30 2011 01:54 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Because Palmar was scummier obviously
I swapped to tunneling Palmar, my vote was on him day 3 up until near the end of it.
Every vote on a non-majority person is useless?
So we should all have only one person with the votes on them at the end of the day? lol and yet you keep going back to TS, this was last night btw. I'm surprised that you say Palmer was "scummier" when you've been talking about TS, made the biggest case AGAINST TS, and continue to talk about TS as scum since day 1. 1) TranceStorm is the only person to have participated in all of them.
2) The mafia doesn't seem to be targeting the people who were in on the lynches. Posted last night. On September 29 2011 01:48 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Oh I overlooked Drazerk and Kitaman27 being on all of them too...
Both Pyo and I haven't been on any, and if we disclude the third which most of the town was on, GGQ joins us. Also posts this bullshit "I wasn't in any of them, I'm not scum." Only scum would feel the need to do this. Also you imply that you pyo and ggq weren't in them and thus have "townie points" but all of a sudden later: On September 29 2011 12:07 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On September 29 2011 11:21 chaoser wrote:
He also never actually gets on anyone as scummy and has been cruising through this game so far. Since you are rather indirectly asking for the list of people I think are scum: TranceStorm; there's a few reasons in my filter from day 1/2 and one last night. Archon_Toilet; comes in sporadically, votes someone at almost random, leaves. GGQ; comes in sporadically, seems to give it about 2% more thought than Archon and leaves again. You post this right after Palmer flips, even though you thought palmer was scum. So either you read through the thread hella fast to reevaluate who the last three mafia are or you just pulled out three convinent people. GGQ appeared alongside me in the hasn't last minute switched poll, and has done worse than Pyo this game. After Drazerk pointed out that Trance in fact wasn't the only person to be onboard every lynch, I made an excel sheet and pointed out interesting things I saw to raise discussion. I admitted to that group looking the scummiest, which you conveniently overlook, and of Pyo and GGQ, I find GGQ worse, so he made the cut. The four people that voted along side Radfield in both his lynches were: TranceStorm Drazerk OriginalName Kitaman27 And I'm willing to bet they aren't all town. ##Vote TranceStorm
First off, the first lynch doesn't prove anything at all. All 4 of the candidates were later shown to be townie - therefore, it doesn't prove or disprove scum motivations to change from one candidate to the other. Therefore, you'd have to expand your list a bit to look at the second lynch.
Funny enough, on the second lynch, you'd think that iGrok would have voted with Radfield if he was scum. Its convenient that his vote was on a Palmar as was yours.
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@Cyber_Cheese - as per the day 1 lynch. Look at it this way, if I were mafia, then I would have known that all three candidates were town - therefore, I could have simply kept my vote on prplhz and lurked through the lynch and come back and said "what the hell guys, obviously errandor was town blah blah blah". (Which is what you did btw). In my opinion, Radfield's moves were designed to draw attention away from the other lynches and to put the spotlight on the people who had followed him rather than on his mafia buddies who were safely voting elsewhere.
You say that I always vote late - that is true - but I will say that I like to take time to consider my choices before voting. I was wrong about Errandor (I had thought he lied, editing out a massive text wall does seem suspicious - imagine if any of us did that right now) and Jackal. But if I had not stayed late with my vote, I was able to save kitaman (who was confirmed town) from the mislynch.
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Also I would like to bring attention to what else Cyber_Cheese does. He accuses me of being on all of the majority lynches. That is true. But notice that Cyber_Cheese is never on a single one. In 3/4 lynches, he votes for side candidates who he knows will not get lynched and will consequently paint him in a bad light. This seems very quirky to me - it seems very much like Cyber_Cheese wants to avoid the spotlight of having made a poor vote. The one time that Cyber_Cheese does vote for one of the top candidates for the lynch, he's voting for ON against iGrok.
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@heist - You say that my interaction with Radfield was a respectful one. That's true, but go back and read through his posts once again - they are quite sensible and logical in their argumentation. I like many other players, was misled by him. No one really put up a fight against his arguments at all during the hours before each lynch (it was only after the lynch that people started saying 'Obviously he wasn't mafia').
Furthermore, think for a moment where my votes came in on both of the those lynches. They both came in at times when the person who I voted for had a large chance of being lynched. If I truly was mafia, wouldn't I have simply said "I don't feel comfortable about this lynch" and voted for another candidate to appear safer? Why would I knowingly vote for the townie candidate in both days 1 and 2 when people had already pointed out the suspicion revolving around my plan?
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The case against Pyo is a good one, but I'm sticking by my vote on Cyber_Cheese - I don't think he's justified why he preferred lynching ON and chaoser to lynching iGrok - which was the only lynch in which a mafia was actually lynched. I'm more than willing to stake my life (in this game of course) that he is mafia.
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On October 01 2011 06:52 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2011 06:51 Drazerk wrote:On October 01 2011 06:50 chaoser wrote:On October 01 2011 06:49 Drazerk wrote:On October 01 2011 06:46 chaoser wrote:On October 01 2011 06:39 Drazerk wrote:On October 01 2011 06:37 chaoser wrote:On October 01 2011 06:34 Drazerk wrote:
Pyo -
Why are Kita / Chaoser scum but not me?
I just want to hear your reasoning behind this. Because the celestial moon is waning and three fourths of the way across the sky, lining up perpendicularly with Venus, the planet of love. This causes a vortex of transmittance that allows for a wave signal that has a frequency of 0.9c to reach him and...fuck this shit...GM how do you even think of half the things you think of?? MAGIC! Holy fuck..you have 12k+ posts. How did you do that and I only have not even 4k and I've been here longer lol. I live report SC2 tournys I am 95% certain I have the TL record of most posts in a week because of it I dunno...kona had a pretty beastly posting rate back in the day. Jinro too. 2100 posts in a week beastly? Let's just say he's eased up a lot on posting since SC2 came out and he's still got you beat on average posts per X Average Posts Per Day 35.37 Average Posts Per Week 247.59
My Average Posts Per Day is 0.73 - haha. That takes real stamina to reach that high of a postcount.
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Hmmm. Why have Cyber_Cheese and heist moved off from voting for me (and to voting for each other at the moment). Nothing has changed from the previous day to this day so why should they have seemed to change their minds?
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On October 02 2011 18:48 heist wrote:
If it really comes down to the wire I have an iron claim. Imagine a LOTR character that HAS to be in this game simply for their importance. That's me. mr bigshsot. so ya no use voting for me. oh ya whos the other medic? confirmed townie foor sure.
Mig I wish you the best in all your endeavors.
That doesn't change much at all. For example, I will claim right now by saying that I am Théoden, King of Rohan, Vanilla Townie. He's a pretty important role. Does that change your opinion at all of me? No it doesn't prove whether I am or not mafia.
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On October 03 2011 22:46 chaoser wrote:
2011-2012 football (soccer) thread
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TS is apparently ok with not posting here but active and on TL to be posting on other threads. If everyone is willing, I'd be willing to lynch him today and make mafia choose between either shooting into two medics and me or shooting the last unconfirmed townie.
Look at the timestamps of those posts. Nothing happened between the time that I posted on this thread and the two other threads I posted in. Now something has happened and I will respond to posts now.
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