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On September 29 2011 11:41 Cyber_Cheese wrote: No, I was just pointing out some inconsistencies in your collective logics, that was my reasoning behind not believing you. Suddenly you were a game of thrones character as a SK, turned into a vanilla townie because Palmar left? Somehow that doesn't make believing you any easier, but whatever. Notice all the Song of Ice and Fire breadcrumbs all over I've been posting? Yeah lol. I mention Kraken on Day 3, I talk about how Ned Stark was a stern but fair man. I mention salt and iron a whole bunch. Obviously there's also all the Lannister lines I dropped. That was for if I needed to claim Jaime Lannister so I could surprise people with my win con post but sadly you mafia roleblocked me and I couldn't win. Now you get to die to town. Also, the ring takes away the power of the holder to shoot people so I know it was mafia that shot me. They probably thought I'd kill Palmer and then they can kill me to get the ring. | ||
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On September 30 2011 01:06 Drazerk wrote: well this is an active town... Seriously...where is everyone? | ||
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On September 21 2011 05:32 Cyber_Cheese wrote: It's in the mafia's best interest to lure people away from discussions about scum, and on to things like lore and speculation on mechanics, and if they can speculate on mechanics and come up with a plan that may make them stronger at the same time all the better. With this in mind, I would like to revisit the possibility that the mafia atually did propose a plan to take control of the ring. Now assuming you were the mafia, who would you assign to propose the pro-scum plan that may or may not go through? In the words of MrWiggles (notably deceased): Now, all this person really needs is a few quiet days while people slowly forget what he did day 1 if things go bad, so they *could* try to lurk until it all blew over. With that in mind, lets take a second look at TranceStorm's plan to confirm townies- This seemingly bad town plan has a ton of flaws. -Townies might not be able to further pass the ring, and therefore not safely claim after the ring was given to them. The ring is now stuck on someone who can't move it, when the previous towns person could have moved the ring if he sensed danger. -The difficulty of finding a new townie who the ring should be passed to. With every pass, the chance of the recipient being a scumbag increases. Self explanatory -Bad payoffs. A 'confirmed' townie won't be able to accomplish much. -The chance of scum lying to gain whatever town cred exsists. This admittedly could potentially force a counter claim, and get a scum lynched for one townie, but the chance of scum actually trying it is low. -The assumption seems horribly scummy, it helps pave the way for scum to confirm themselves. It also seems to rely on a town aligned role with the power to search for the ring, just in case the scum player decided not to even try to pass it. -The plan overall balances a low payoff with a rather low reward. After the plan is dismissed, Trance proceeds to act wishy-washy and brings up a case on anyone he believes might legitimately form a bandwagon, before deciding to join a pre-exsisting one. I don't have much to say about this part because I don't understand why all three major wagons were town, but I believe mafia have their reasons to want to flip both WBG and prphlz, and so they bandwagoned onto a convenient easy target in Errandor. For the sake of this point, I advise you read through his filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=264699&user=27938 What I do know, is that DocH (deceased) was willing to oversee his plan rather quickly- If I'm not mistaken, that was among the most dismissive statements DocH said while he was alive. At the same time DocH was gaining town cred by helping to dismiss the plan after townies already had (Yet another benefit.) TranceStorm is Scum He's been tunneling TS all game and yet he votes Palmer twice (Day 2 and 4) (a useless vote since he was never in danger of being lynched, why not just put your useless vote on TS then?), and for day 3 voted ON. He only voted TS day one. Even now he talks about how he thinks TS is scum but his vote never gets to rest there. If you're so convinced TS is scum why are all your votes meaningless (voting for non-majority people that aren't TS)? SCUMMMMM | ||
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On September 30 2011 01:30 Drazerk wrote: Quick question - Who got role blocked? Kita did | ||
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On September 30 2011 01:54 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Because Palmar was scummier obviously I swapped to tunneling Palmar, my vote was on him day 3 up until near the end of it. Every vote on a non-majority person is useless? So we should all have only one person with the votes on them at the end of the day? lol and yet you keep going back to TS, this was last night btw. I'm surprised that you say Palmer was "scummier" when you've been talking about TS, made the biggest case AGAINST TS, and continue to talk about TS as scum since day 1. 1) TranceStorm is the only person to have participated in all of them. 2) The mafia doesn't seem to be targeting the people who were in on the lynches. Posted last night. On September 29 2011 01:48 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Oh I overlooked Drazerk and Kitaman27 being on all of them too... Both Pyo and I haven't been on any, and if we disclude the third which most of the town was on, GGQ joins us. Also posts this bullshit "I wasn't in any of them, I'm not scum." Only scum would feel the need to do this. Also you imply that you pyo and ggq weren't in them and thus have "townie points" but all of a sudden later: On September 29 2011 12:07 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Since you are rather indirectly asking for the list of people I think are scum: TranceStorm; there's a few reasons in my filter from day 1/2 and one last night. Archon_Toilet; comes in sporadically, votes someone at almost random, leaves. GGQ; comes in sporadically, seems to give it about 2% more thought than Archon and leaves again. You post this right after Palmer flips, even though you thought palmer was scum. So either you read through the thread hella fast to reevaluate who the last three mafia are or you just pulled out three convinent people. | ||
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On September 30 2011 02:48 TranceStorm wrote: Are you trolling us or something? Why on earth would a character from another story (not to mention the fact that he isn't one of the major major characters) be put in a theme game? That makes absolutely 0 sense. I know you've 'breadcrumbed' this, but why would another a character from another universe be introduced as a 3rd party looking for the ring? So you're saying Curu gave me two fake claims. One was Boromir and the other one was from another series? And that I'm lying about being what I am and I figured saying I was from another series would be MUCH better than just saying I'm Boromir, which would fit the role anyway since he wanted the ring for himself. And somehow I foresaw that I would need to claim a role from a completely different series somewhere down the line and breadcrumbed it? Oh, and Theon gets his own POV later btw so yeah, he's kind of a big deal. The only "major major characters" are Tyrion, Jon and Dany anyway and I'm pretty sure they're all too busy doing their own thing to fit into a role where the purpose is to get the ring (Trying to find a whore, On the Wall, Across the Narrow Sea) I'll paraphrase why I'm in the game from Curu's PM: Your life sucks, you never fit in at Winterfell and people called you a ward but really you were a hostage (I drop this word as a breadcrumb too). Hell, most people who watch the HBO show don't even know who you are (Sad actually since he plays a big role later). All you want is respect and recognition. Somehow you managed to rip open the space time continuum and teleport yourself into Middle Earth; Now you want to find the One Ring so you can finally gain recognition and power. When gollum left with the ring, I lost the power to use the ring to go back to Westeros so now I'm stuck here trying to score with hot elven chicks. | ||
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On September 30 2011 03:04 Drazerk wrote: I thought you was just lying about the theon thing lol and how dare you not call him a major major character he's one of my favourite characters! Mine too! lol I was really happy when Curu picked Theon out of all the other characters to give me as a role lol. I tihnk he's a major character, I don't think he's major major. Major major is like only those three. | ||
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On September 30 2011 03:17 kitaman27 wrote: Why would he automatically go down to not 4, rather than thinking the obvious number of 6? It's as if he is purposely trying to be ignorant of the likely number. Yeah I know but the fact that he unclaimed his smurf makes me think he's townie, if he's mafia and he used the un-smurf to seem townie that would be pretty lame since it's a "out of game mechanic" | ||
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On September 30 2011 11:15 kitaman27 wrote: Agreed. Everybody needs to be contributing. There are a bunch of people who are really not pulling their weight so close to LYLO. I'm ok with either a pyo or cybercheese vote | ||
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Also nice try at misdirection there by saying it's smarter to lynch me over Pyo, obvious scum #1. | ||
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