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On August 23 2011 23:48 tnkted wrote: Ok I think I've figured out scum: It's Eiii, Wiggles and Chaos13. So we should start with lynching Wiggles IMO Twinkles you're so cute when you're trolling. The red bustierre helps too. Wtf are you on about? | ||
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On August 24 2011 00:20 Navillus wrote: Dammit I need to role something more interesting than townie one of these days... anyway, I've never played a mini before so I'm very open to any mini-specific advice anyone has. Let's confirm his claim. ##Vote: Navillus | ||
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So ya Palmar made a joke at my expense. I wouldn't use that as a basis to get him killed. At least not yet anyways. | ||
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On August 24 2011 05:54 TheFerryman wrote: Lol, not smurfing, I just actually took the time to read the guides and previous games before jumping in and playing a game. What do you think of my accusation of wiggles? Am I off base? If it wasn't Wiggles I'd say you're spot on. But Wiggles is the only one here that I'm aware of that has won a game as the SK before. But I also used this rationale to talk myself into believing Wiggles couldn't be scum once when the scum team was playing like 2 year old kids on Valium. I don't believe Wiggles to be the 3rd party atm. I would say Palmar has more likelihood of that but that isn't saying much right now either. If you're right kudos to you. I'd rather wait a bit and see what develops. If Mr. Wiggles is town he is probably the best player we have. | ||
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On August 24 2011 06:12 TheFerryman wrote: Hmm, is there any reason, other than pure meta why you think I might be wrong? I mean I don't really see what relevance wiggle's victory in survivor mafia has to do with the fact that his play right now is exactly in line with they way the EH is supposed to play. What am I missing? I agree wiggles is a strong player, but that doesn't mean we should be afraid to lynch him, not with such a damming post. I'd really appreciate it if you would flesh out why you don't think wiggles is third party. Thanks. Purely based on Meta. Like I said that assumption on my part was wrong before too. | ||
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On August 24 2011 07:59 TheFerryman wrote: EBWOP: "Optimal Play" varies on a player by player basis, but the *objectives* remain the same. In the case of wiggles, its to appear pro-town while pushing his agenda. Wiggles achieves it by making long policy posts, you would do it in a different way. In the end what matters is the objective and the mentality behind it. Really. Who are you smurfing for? | ||
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On August 24 2011 08:23 TheFerryman wrote: Instead of speculating about whether or not I'm a smurf, try reading my case and commenting on it. You can assume whatever you want. I'm new, I was waiting for a smallish game, so I took the opportunity to read through as many games as possible. Now focus on things that actually *matter*. I did read your posts. That's why I asked again. Was more a joke than anything. I can't disagree with your analysis. But I can wait a bit before I decide on who I'm voting for and why. If you read all the games I've played you'll find I'm pretty useless on day 1 and typically dead by day 2. | ||
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I have only read this page and will get caught up shortly but I do have a question for the Ferryman. You state rightly so that we are here to lynch scum. Yet you are obsessed with the EH. Why? I understand he's 3rd party. I understand he's anti town. I also understand that he won't kill anybody barring a chance encounter with the psych. Scum are most certainly going to begin killing us. Fuck the EH for now. We have bigger fish to fry. Of course I might be all wrong as I have just read this page atm and if so I'll be more than happy to stfu after I get caught up. I'll post my thoughts in a bit. I also have to catch up on XLIX. | ||
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Ferryman we get it. You think Wiggles is the EH. You may very well be right. Guess what? Right now I don't care about the EH. But you sure as hell do. You are either the psych or scum. I know you have a very good grasp on how this game works. You are also on the opposite end of the brilliance spectrum from Cyber_cheese. Put your efforts into something other than tunneling your EH suspect. Please. I'm filtering all of you from most to least interesting so I'm going to be a while. | ||
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On August 25 2011 08:42 Cyber_Cheese wrote: At the moment, my views hinge on two important people 1) If MrWiggles turns out not to be the eldritch, then I believe Ferryman to be the eldritch himself. On the off-chance Wiggles isn't the eldritch, then I believe Ferryman to be town, based off various arguments that Ferryman has made against wiggles. 2) If Tnkted is mafia, I believe Navillus to also be mafia because Tnkted chose to ignore what Navillus said at the start of day 1 about being a townie, before looking a few posts further and voting Palmar based off his joke, this would also make Palmar innocent in my eyes. Again, this is perfectly inversed. You wanna redo that one champ. | ||
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On August 24 2011 04:22 tnkted wrote: If anyone else has a stronger read that can convince me I would lynch them instead, but for d1 lynch palmar is my vote. Your immediate jump on Palmar is scummy. I understood that what he made was a joke. He was directly poking at me. On August 24 2011 03:15 tnkted wrote: Wait a minute. how does insanity effect mafia? Do their kills fail or something? Nice effort. On August 24 2011 05:29 tnkted wrote: I don't think he's acted any scummier than Palmar, but Palmar has a better excuse to lynch. Navillus said the sort of thing I said all the time when I was a newbie. Palmar said something that could either be a joke or a slip and I'm rating the chances of either at 50-50. This is so freaking scummy I had to go brush my teeth. Pick it up Twinkles. I'm really not liking what I'm seeing. | ||
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On August 25 2011 09:52 Erandorr wrote: also please stop this tldr shit . it bothers lazy people like me . if you do that at least use colors and pictures to keep me interested k? Really? ![[image loading]](http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_B9DKXRnL-iE/TRx9ykjZJxI/AAAAAAAAAPE/pANLBQDiOz8/s1600/get_out.jpg) | ||
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On August 25 2011 10:44 Sevryn wrote: we only get two extensions so i would much rather wait till we need more discussion later in the game for an extension. @jackal Did you read that we get an extra day if we lynch the EH? I think we should focus on lynching scum when we have a good candidate like Cheese today and if we don't I think the case on wiggles is quite strong. Didn't realize that until Ferryman pointed it out to me. I agree with Chaos13 on tnkted. ##VOTE: tnkted | ||
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On August 25 2011 20:42 chaos13 wrote: The only thing I don't like about the tnkted lynch right now is how quickly people are switching without actually providing new analysis. And this: Jackal never agrees with me so willingly. On August 25 2011 09:02 Jackal58 wrote: Your immediate jump on Palmar is scummy. I understood that what he made was a joke. He was directly poking at me. Nice effort. This is so freaking scummy I had to go brush my teeth. Pick it up Twinkles. I'm really not liking what I'm seeing. I assumed you were agreeing with me. | ||
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If tnkted is scum so is Palmar and Sevryn. Lynch tnkted. | ||
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Subtle disconnects. + Show Spoiler + On August 25 2011 02:08 Sevryn wrote: its in scums best interest for town to randomly lynch and ignore scum slips while i was reading the thread i was going to do a write up on CyberCheese however tnkted beat me to it this guy self admitted to jumping on bandwagons. he plays the IDC if i get lynched card this guy is scum. ##vote Cyber_Cheese | ||
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On August 26 2011 08:31 JeeJee wrote: not sure if serious.. all that post shows is sevryn going "I was going to make a case against CC but tnkted did it already" i did pretty much the same thing, am I related now too? + Show Spoiler + On August 26 2011 03:52 Sevryn wrote: Trying to save who you think is townie is not scum play as palmar proved in TL Mafia XLIV I will switch my vote to wiggles so we can get him lynched I still think ferryman made a very strong case against him. Cyber cheese needs to pick up his play. ##unvote ##vote Mr. Wiggles Subtle disconnects. | ||
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I'm going to try to digest wtf has gone on over the last 24 hours or so. | ||
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Palmar once again I am guilty of looking at you with a jaundiced eye. Sorry man. Day ones poopfest centering on breadcrumbing made me curious as to who if anybody had. On August 27 2011 03:33 JeeJee wrote: indeed, this is an interesting point. making sure that the scenario where ea/psych visit one another is accounted for properly is all we've focused on, but the most likely thing to happen is that neither will visit another. someone's basically not-EA if that happens checking palmar is the best idea i think. under the assumption that psych decides to follow the plan (i dont see why he wouldnt), i'd be hella more comfortable knowing palmar's not the EA. my other suggestion is wiggles. ugh, you read my mind. my god, where did the 'horror' come from. and like everyone's saying it too. damn shit annoys me :< ##visit palmar I could probably do this with every post in this game but each of those letters follow a period. I don't believe in accidents. | ||
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On August 28 2011 03:08 tnkted wrote: actually the C in Scum doesn't follow a period, but otherwise the message says 'im scum u mad' Reading Jee Jee's posts reveals he's replied to/agreed with/been focused on sevryn faaaar more than anyone else, so perhaps sevryn is our lynch tomorrow. Also town needs to start talking asap. You're right. It is at the beginning of his next paragraph though. I still can't see it as an accident. On August 28 2011 03:10 Forumite wrote: Jackal, after the talk last day and the unfortunate demise of Palmar, there´s not much to go on, but where do you think scum hide, apart from JeeJee of course. Where they always hide. Right in front of us. I'm not convinced Tnkted is town. | ||
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On August 28 2011 03:23 JeeJee wrote: surely you're not serious. look hard enough and i'm sure you can find something like this in anyone's posts if they post enough. major fos on both tnkted and wiggles for just jumping on this without thinking it's simply a coincidence. Go find me one the says I'm scum after every period or parenthesis break and I'll entertain the idea that it was an accident for about 3 nanoseconds. | ||
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WHERE DO YO THINK HE LEARNED HOW TO POST IN ONE LINERS!!!!!!! | ||
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On August 28 2011 03:10 Forumite wrote: Jackal, after the talk last day and the unfortunate demise of Palmar, there´s not much to go on, but where do you think scum hide, apart from JeeJee of course. After rereading all of Jee Jee's posts I'd say the scum are all hiding in the same spot he was. Searching for the EA and calling it the pro town thing to do. Yes the EA needs to be dealt with. But not at the expense of everything else. | ||
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On August 28 2011 03:38 JeeJee wrote: [/spoiler]Lmao. Scum. | ||
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On August 28 2011 03:38 JeeJee wrote: + Show Spoiler + and just for you jackal, this post spells 'fuck you'. how ridiculous. first, him and palmar got into a big argument, especially during the night as he just waltzed in after-deadline, voted for psych to visit ferry, but only AFTER trying to dissuade us from ... using this plan completely! Clearly, this particular variation of the plan has been checked and re-checked, and the worst case scenario has been fixed, such that it's actually a good plan. keeping in mind a townie perspective, he would have no reason to randomly say "oh btw this plan sucks lol" y'all should also remember he was a suspect of palmar. overall, not to say town=right, but palmar's reasons were good-natured and I personally agree with his conclusion, especially after knowing that. u should too. Fixed that. | ||
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On August 28 2011 06:34 Cyber_Cheese wrote: I'm not entirely convinced on JeeJee.for two reasons 1) he could be trolling as town, out of boredom or something 2) if he's been using it as code, who were the recipients? surely theres some more examples, maybe even people replying? point 1) is weakened by his reply after it was spotted At this point, I think wiggles is clean: If I were the mafia, I'd choose someone intelligent, active, and that was trying to get an innocent lynched Are you suggesting there is a traitor role in this game? If there is it's not in the OP. Do you know something we don't? Is that why you killed Palmar? Jee Jee if it wasn't for the U Mad at the end I'd briefly consider coincidence. | ||
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On August 28 2011 10:06 Navillus wrote: Also the writing is weird and looks forced, but... Jackal how on earth did you notice that??? Because the writing was forced and weird. | ||
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On August 28 2011 10:23 chaos13 wrote: lmfao JeeJee is seriously regretting that right now I bet. 1) I can't ever see town being stupid enough to intentionally put a mafia claim breadcrumb in their posts. 2) Code? Nah. He just got arrogant and thought he could get away with it. Of course, this could be set up for Jackal to gain a bunch of town cred. I wouldn't put it past JJ and Jackal. Especially Jackal. His scum play scares me after I watched him as mafia in a game I hosted. It scares me good. ##Vote JeeJee I suck as scum  | ||
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On August 28 2011 12:37 Navillus wrote: Ehhh, more specifics what made you look closely, what did you notice first, how did you see it? I spent almost 3 hours looking at every post in this game for breadcrumbs. I wasn't looking at anything of Jee Jee's in particular. I saw the U Mad first. And then found the rest. I found one other post that may contain a breadcrumb but I'm not positive it is. At any rate I am not going to share that post, or user, or what he may be claiming. Y'all can go find it yourselves. | ||
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On August 28 2011 12:21 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Good question... Are we able to turn the other half of the day into an extension and make up for the one we burned if 12/12 vote him? Only scum want a short day. Y U scum Cyber? | ||
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On August 29 2011 00:10 chaos13 wrote: That question applies to everyone. Go back through his posts and see if you can figure it out. I'm 90% sure he is the EA. If nobody has figured out why by the time I get home today I'll tell you how. He needs to be lynched tomorrow. This is a refreshing change of pace. You're almost always 100% sure I'm scum. | ||
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You are Mafia. Many have been crushed under your violence, but when you move into quiet rural town intending to subjugate it as usual, you might unknowingly have disturbed slumber of the force beyond your understanding... You can privately talk with each other throughout the game, and choose to kill one player every night. If you turn insane, you will be notified of the fact immediately; you will receive # of the insane people (including you) in the town at beginning of the every day. You win when your number outnumber or is equal to the surviving town-aligned players. How many crazy people we got?????? | ||
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On August 29 2011 11:40 chaos13 wrote: JeeJee, sevryn, and Jackal are all higher. My lynch order of choice would be JeeJee, Jackal, sevryn, tnkted. Why Jackal? Can anyone tell me which role in the game would want to spend 3 hours looking for breadcrumbs? The father role. I was killing time and drinking coffee waiting for a call from my son telling me he arrived at the motel they were spending the night at. | ||
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Really? And what brings you to that conclusion? My belief that scum are more dangerous to us than the EA at this stage of the game? I suggest you look at the two people with the least amount of posts in this game. One of them is the EA. | ||
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![[image loading]](http://verydemotivational.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/demotivational-posters-winning1.jpg) Why the hell wouldn't we talk now? | ||
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On August 30 2011 07:10 chaos13 wrote: I would suggest the Psychologist don't visit Jackal, precisely because he is the EA. I'm going to vote Jackal tomorrow and be pushing for his lynch, so what is the point in causing our psych to kill himself by visiting Jackal? Show me your reasoning. And whoever the Psych is feel free to visit me. You'll be safe and sane in the morning. Stay away from Erandorr and Eiii though. Eiii doesn't normally lurk. I have no idea who Erandorr is though or how he plays. In 3, 2, 1........ | ||
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On August 30 2011 07:56 chaos13 wrote: Explain to me how our psych visiting him is good. It doesn't kill the EA, it doesn't remove him from the game, it doesn't take away his power, and we have no way of knowing for sure if the psych actually visited who everyone voted for. It gets us a dead townie. Instead, they should visit who they think was most likely targeted last night. I'm not the EA ya nit. | ||
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On August 30 2011 07:56 chaos13 wrote: Explain to me how our psych visiting him is good. It doesn't kill the EA, it doesn't remove him from the game, it doesn't take away his power, and we have no way of knowing for sure if the psych actually visited who everyone voted for. It gets us a dead townie. Instead, they should visit who they think was most likely targeted last night. Who did you visit last night Chaos? | ||
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If I were scum Chaos you would be dead today and not the Ferryman. So unless you are either A) The EA or B) Scum please kindly start looking for realsies instead of insisting I am something I'm not. Of course if you are either scum or EA please continue to tunnel me. | ||
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On August 31 2011 03:19 tnkted wrote: I'm not sold on a chaos lynch yet... he seems more like, dumb than someone posting scum objectives. Jackal clearly isn't EA or we'd have lost our psychologist. Did we all abandon the wiggles lynch? Unless you are either the EA or the Psychologist you cannot make that claim. No matter how true it is you possess no knowledge of who the Psychologist visited unless you are him. The other option is you are the EA. | ||
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On August 31 2011 03:25 chaos13 wrote: This is total wifom here. It would be so easy for you to say this from an EA or mafia perspective, so it doesn't go any length to convincing me you're town. With that said, I seem to be the only one suspicious of you, so pursuing you will do no good for today. You're doing an excellent job of voting for me with no explanation and completely ignoring my request to pressure me if you think I'm suspicious. If you want to vote for me, don't leave the information where it's at. Ask me questions and see if my responses are still scummy. Point out the mafia/EA objectives I have been pushing this game. If at the end of the day I'm still your #1 suspect, so be it. Don't do a one-liner vote. Thanks :p I'm doing my best here. I'd like to find out from everyone why they think Jackal isn't the EA, because from my perspective he is the most likely candidate for it right now. Maybe some outside opinions will help me figure things out. Your only reason for calling me the EA is because I spent Sunday morning looking for breadcrumbs. I spent Sunday morning looking for breadcrumbs because I was sitting next to my phone waiting for my kid to call me. Let it go man. There are several other peoples in this game that have shown more interest in the Psych and the EA than I have. We also have 2 people that hardly post at all. Look at them first. | ||
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On August 31 2011 04:26 tnkted wrote: I think I can make that claim assuming that the psychologist is following orders and visiting the person we voted for. We all voted for you, so we can assume that psych visited you and didn't die. That's what im basing that claim on. Why, are you the EA? Nope. EA is going to be Eiii or Erandorr. | ||
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Ya you're doing it again dude. | ||
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On August 31 2011 09:28 chaos13 wrote:  General consensus seems to be that I'm wasting time. So be it. Jackal is no longer a suspect. I'll start looking elsewhere. Put forward your ideas. I still want to see them. This is right up there with people believing the Psych visited me. Complacency will kill us as surely as misplaced zeal. At least give me a synopsis of it. If this game comes down to lylo and we're still both in it and you're town and you believe me to be scum or 3rd party we're fucked. Unless you're scum or the EA then stuff it. | ||
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And I'm just gonna spoiler this and answer below. Most of it addresses the same issue so my answer will cover most of it. + Show Spoiler + On August 31 2011 22:36 chaos13 wrote: Because they're waiting for my analysis of you. Sorry about the wait everyone, I was frustrated with this game last night and decided it would be best to clear my head and smarten up before attempting some analysis. Let me preface this by saying I am no longer at all sure that Jackal is EA. There's evidence for it, but when the whole town starts questioning you there comes a point where you begin to wonder if you're sniffing down the wrong trail. So here we go. What needs to be determined first is what the goals of the EA will actually be. This is simple. 1) Visit the psychologist 2) Do some serious mafia hunting. You want town cred and you're not afraid of getting hit for being correct. A lot of Jackal's posts are solid. He's really good at not giving anything away without making it obvious. I'll just go with the posts that stand out to me. While this is a reasonable post, it has some strange motivations behind it. He would really like Ferryman to quit searching so hard for the EA, because apparently scum are more important. Let's see how that would work out. 3 scum, takes us 3 days to lynch. 3 kills by that point, 3 lynches, and possibility of psych dying due to EA. That brings us down to 2 insane townies 3 sane townies 1 EA Assuming we lynched mafia every day from day 1, this is a worst case scenario, with the EA visiting the psych and two townies who survived. This doesn't look too good to me. Whereas if we lynch the EA, we skip a night phase and get 2 lynches in a row...looks good to me. Jackal isn't one to miss something like this. EA and mafia are equal priority, and his wanting to take out mafia over EA doesn't look too good. Again, he's pushing Ferryman away from hunting the EA. Something I would really like to point out is this No possibility of him being the EA. What better cover would there be for an EA than hunting for their own role? Not for a moment does Jackal consider this possibility. In games I've played previously I've been about to hit submit and then realized I made a slip like this. I consider this to be a slip revealing that he's the EA. I've already gone over this stuff, but I'll mention it briefly again. 3 hours looking for breadcrumbs? Jackal's hunting the psych, which you'll remember is priority #1 of the EA. And then this. Sorry for wasting so much time yesterday. Let the discussion begin. On the Ferryman I simply wanted him to stop tunneling. At the point I made that first post you quoted we were all well aware of what he thought of Wiggles and adding more of the same just gave us all another 20 paragraphs on "NO U" to read. That's it. No ulterior motivation. And yes he came across to me as either Psych or scum. Not the EA. And if I truly was the EA Ferryman would not have been sane when scum hit him. I would have visited him. The EA isn't posting in this game. It's either Eiii or Erandorr. One is scum the other is 3rd party. And I really was killing time when I went through all the posts in this game looking for breadcrumbs. No ulterior motive there either. And wtf does "Sevryn was prodded" mean? | ||
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On August 31 2011 23:25 tnkted wrote: Player List 1. Mr. Wiggles 2. Cyber_Cheese 3. Sevryn 4. TheFerryman 5. chaos13 6. 7. Navillus 8. Eiii 9. 10. Jackal58 11. Forumite 12. Erandorr 13. tnkted These are my reads. So, before we start getting off track here, ##vote: sevryn like we should have been doing earlier. I'm getting red vibe off forumite. If you read his post history it's all soft FoS's that he doesn't really follow through on. I don't think chaos13 is scum, I just think he doesn't read very closely and gets too excited about his 'scumtells' that don't actually mean anything. That being said, Chaos, you aren't reacting properly to pressure at all. I think you're town, but if you keep acting batshit insane whenever people don't agree with you, I'm changing my vote to follow wiggles. EVERY VOTE SEVRYN NAO Is Sevryn still alive? Is Sevryn blue? Wtf does PRODDED mean???????? | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=257133&user=46485 The Erandorr filter: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=257133&user=117613 If I had to choose which was which I'd call Eiii scum and Erandorr 3rd party. But there's really not a lot to go on with either. | ||
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On September 01 2011 00:32 Forumite wrote: Are you saying that you don´t like the way I play, or that I´m playing like a scum in this game? Because I´ve been accused of being scum because of weak FoS many times. What do people think about Navilius? And no, it´s not a FoS, I just don´t have a good read on him. Navillus started strong and has also gone into what appears to be lurk mode. | ||
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Other than Ferryman's meta argument against wiggles I don't see much there. His vote on Palmar appears to be in response to Palmar deciding to push a no lynch. I wasn't online when day 1 ended so I don't really have a feel for the timing of it all. I also freely admit that I have a townie bias on Wiggles in every game we play together. Much the same as I always suspect Palmar as being scum. If you can give me something I'm not seeing other than The Ferryman's meta argument I'll consider it. Tnkted has given me the wilbers off and on through this whole game. He has some posts that scream "Scum" at me and others that make me think he's town. I think it is safe to say that either he is scum, 3rd party or a vanilla townie. Tnkted has never gotten a blue role he couldn't wait to claim. Seriously. He claims every game. So ya they could be the remaining scum but other than the voting I don't feel comfy voting for either of them yet. Hell I don't feel comfy voting for anybody yet. I'm still not liking the lurking that Erandorr, Eiii and most recently Navillus have exhibited. It's also a bit odd that Nav and Erindorr used the same excuse. I was in 4 different games when this started. No excuse. Now I'm in 2. Fucking scum. So go ahead and make a case on Wiggles or Tnkted for me Forumite. Cause I don't see anything on Wiggles and most of what I think of Tnkted I've already posted. For now I'm going to put a vote on Eiii. He's lurking. Hardcore. ##Vote: Eiii | ||
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On September 01 2011 12:11 tnkted wrote: Jackal, what are your thoughts on Sevryn? I think he's town atm. I think you're scum or 3rd party. On September 01 2011 18:49 Erandorr wrote: jackal, why so scummy? Says the lurker. What's your excuse today? My vote is going on Wiggles. I want to see who shows up to change it to a no lynch. ##UNVOTE:Eiii ##VOTE: Mr.Wiggles | ||
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On September 02 2011 00:23 Forumite wrote: Cyber_Cheese Sevryn chaos13 - visit? Navillus Eiii Jackal58 - visit? Forumite Erandorr tnkted Odd, of the players that the Psych was asked to visit, it´s only Jackal and Chaos13 that still live, and Night 2 voting were confused enough that we can´t know who of those two that actually got the visit. Wiggles and JeeJee turned out to be scum and got lynched, so the visit on Wiggles was wasted. With the switch in player, Erandorr will be even harder to read. I want the Psych to visit him tonight. ##Visit Erandorr Erandorr is being replaced for not voting. He's not being modkilled, he's being replaced. I think that says something about what Erandorr is. | ||
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On September 02 2011 04:05 Cyber_Cheese wrote: I'm reading the OP, and it says mod killed people within a time frame will be replaced, but never specifies a time frame specifically if I'm not mistaken. I don't think we can actually act on this with any definite measure. I do however think we should lynch whoever takes over Erandorr, because it will be very hard to get an accurate read on a new person in Erandorr's shoes. Ya careful with that. Erandorr may well be the Psych. | ||
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On September 02 2011 10:06 chaos13 wrote: At this point I say the psych should STOP visiting who they think the EA is. Why? Because all players that have flipped so far are sane. That means there is a very high number of insane players and the EA is close to winning. Instead, visit who you did the first night (assuming they're still alive). If the EA has any degree of intelligence they will have visited this person the night after, because they're pretty much guaranteed a safe insanity. Comprende? At this point we don't need a dead towny. | ||
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On September 02 2011 11:26 Cyber_Cheese wrote: EA needs every living person to be insane, if the psych visits EA there is still 7 people alive assuming worst case scenario and a maximum of 6 will be insane, but if you use one of those values you have to subtract1 from the other because it assumes who the mafia visit ##Visit Kurumi If Kurumi's psych, then ##Visit Eiii Psssttt. It's night time. | ||
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On September 02 2011 21:22 Cyber_Cheese wrote: It's almost like he's trying to downplay the EA's threat level I don't think so. On September 02 2011 08:04 Jackal58 wrote: I believe Tnkted to be the final scum and Eiii or Erandorr/Kurumi to be EA and Psych. 4 People have died and all 4 have been sane. That makes me think the EA has been inactive. Errandor more so than Eiii. I think we are at a point in the game where it is beneficial to attempt to lynch the EA. If we succeed we have put ourselves into a situation where we now go straight into a second day and we can get the final scum and end this. I'm downplaying nothing. | ||
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On September 03 2011 10:12 Forumite wrote: The thread has slowed down. With 8 players left, we need 5 votes to get a lynch. We were slow with getting the voting going yesterday, so going right ahead now. ##Vote tnkted Tnkted is most likely the remaining scum. I think our vote today should go on the most likely EA candidate don't you? | ||
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On September 03 2011 14:05 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Won't the day be extended either way? ##Vote Tnkted Ya it is apparently. I was thinking the EA lynch was the only one that extended day but it's the elimination of a faction that does. ##VOTE: Tnkted | ||
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On September 04 2011 02:30 Navillus wrote: I don't love the case against tnkted but accepting death has always been a scum thing when I've seen it so I'm going to look over him more carefully, and Jackal with 1 scum left there's no reason not to lynch scum we get a free day. Ya I misunderstood the free day mechanic. | ||
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On September 04 2011 23:32 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Well it makes sense he was sane, which is a shame because the EA's closer to winning. for the psych vote tonight I'm thinking ##Visit Sevryn Or whoever his replacement is anyway. On September 04 2011 23:36 Kurumi wrote: ##Visit Sevryn I think he is EA. This will make us sure. No No Psych needs to revisit whomever he visited before. Odds are they are now insane. Odds are the EA is close to winning. If Psych dies now odds are the EA will definitely win. On September 04 2011 23:53 wherebugsgo wrote: LOL. Jackal not dead yet = definitely not a townie. Also upon reading the first several pages Cyber is either really stupid or really scum/third party. And no. redFF is that you? Sevryn hasn't said much in this game and as soon as you replace him you immediately call me scum. Y U scum Bugs? | ||
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On September 05 2011 01:30 Forumite wrote: Visiting Sevryn/wherebugsgo sounds good, without a good read, perhaps we can at least eliminate him as a possible EA. Keeping the psych alive by having him visit people he's already visited and knows are not the EA keeps him alive and keeps you from winning. | ||
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Forumite Other than myself he is the only player remaining that has been actively trying to find scum. [green]Jackal58[/greeen] I know I'm town. Scum/Psych/EA all lie in here: Kurumi Navillus Eiii Erandorr showed that he was actively lurking the thread earlier. Kurumi hasn't posted enough to get a read on. He did try to put suspicion on Sevryn/WBG as EA though. Navillus - Lurk,lurk, lurk Eiii - Lurk, lurk, lurk Of those 3 Navillus was more active and I am getting more of a blue vibe from him. I support an Erandorr/Kurumi or Eiii lynch today. WBG next time don't wait, give us your thoughts please. | ||
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On September 06 2011 04:17 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Oh my god I edited my post ... Everything under the vote was new, the rest is unchanged On September 05 2011 23:10 Jackal58 wrote: Cyber_Cheese If he is scum/EA he is brilliant. I don't believe he is brilliant.  | ||
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On September 06 2011 00:26 Kurumi wrote: Obviously I won't let lynch myself etc. It is hard to jump in as someone in a game and be a bit disoriented about the game (add that the player I am replacing was hardcore lurking..) Also yay for insane kill. On September 06 2011 04:40 Kurumi wrote: Killing me won't skip the night. I wanted to hear question You might have. I got nothing, so I wrote nothing, ez huh? Oh, besides that stupid question "where will scum go" by forumite lurkers because they're more than half of alive players? duh If Jackal is right about Forumite and Cyber_Cheese Eii is scum and Navillus is EA. Navillus is lurking too btw, he promised to give some "insight" on the situations in the thread (never delivered) was against tnkted lynch aand is for Kurumi lynch. Because Errandor and I were lurking and he is lurking. Lurky lurker suing lurky lurker. See? Cyber Cheese - Read both of these very carefully. Put them in context of my post regarding who I believe to be in the lurker pool. Please change your vote accordingly. ##VOTE: Navillus | ||
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On September 06 2011 10:33 Navillus wrote: Woah Jackal how did errandor and kurumi get out of this with no suspicion? Kurumi is Erandorr. Among you 3 (Kurumi, Eiii and yourself) I said lays the final scum, EA and Psych. Read Kurumi's last 2 posts with that in mind. | ||
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On September 06 2011 11:16 Navillus wrote: First off the statement that EA and scum are definitely among the lurkers is very questionable, obviously given a choice they would be but you can't suddenly realize that you can get away with lurking and become a lurker if you've been talking you won't suddenly stop and frankly I think most people lurk or don't based on personal play-style and IRL situation not a conscious choice half-way through the game ALSO I don't see how what kurumi said couldn't just be him trying to direct suspicion onto eiii and myself since he was part of the group, "yay an insane kill" really? is that all it takes to convince you that someone isn't the EA, okay then YAY AN INSANE KILL (I'm off the hook now right?) You agree but disagree. It's Kurumi's immediate leap to you and Eiii being EA and scum without regard to either of you being Psych coupled with his Yay comment that makes me believe he is blue not red. | ||
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On September 06 2011 21:44 Forumite wrote: Still 24h left on the day. Okay, Jackal, you say Navillus should be lynched, what do you back it up with? Day 1 voting is unsure, he jumped on Wiggles at the end, and appeared to genuinely want him lynched, the late voting doesn´t exclude a scum, but makes it less likely with tnkted as an alternative lynch. As far as I remember, the Psych was never asked to visit Navillus. Overall, that´s not a very strong case. Do you have any posts or evidence apart from this? Go reread his reaction to Jee Jee's lynch. He seemed to be very uncomfy with it. He has gone into lurk mode since. He calls my calling out of lurkers questionable while saying scum/EA will lurk if they have the chance. Of course they have the chance. They just stop posting. And my bad on the time. I would have swore the day started on Sunday morning. 3 day weekend has screwed me up. | ||
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On September 06 2011 11:39 Jackal58 wrote: You agree but disagree. It's Kurumi's immediate leap to you and Eiii being EA and scum without regard to either of you being Psych coupled with his Yay comment that makes me believe he is blue not red. Shit. We're fucked. Good job Kurumi. Looking at votes I've changed my mind on Cyber. He and Navillus need to die. But I think we're too late. | ||
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On September 08 2011 04:19 Cyber_Cheese wrote: I'm kinda glad I wasn't trusting Jackal in all that. If it makes you feel any better I just shot you. That was my last action before I was told we could call it a draw. Forumite knew I was scum. I knew he was EA. For the past 3 days or so. Awkward. | ||
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On September 08 2011 07:52 Forumite wrote: Really? I did a check on lurkers and their activity in different games, your activity looked about normal. Also, while the plan with jackal worked, there can be suspicions anyway. Jackal is a good player, and Scum likely want to kill him off early, if he found JeeJee then all the more reason to kill him quickly. That´s what wherebugsgo was on to, Scum kill Jackal, unless he´s scum too. As for Cyber, Jackal and Me, we were considered Town at the end, and should really have been killed off by scum, to remove active players and to leave Town with more potential scum to choose between. That the EA is bulletproof work against the role in this case, I was too noticeable when hunting Wiggles, I should have died after his lynch, and that´s exactly what jackal tried to arrange. I blew your fucking head off. Unfortunately you didn't have a head and it blew Chaos13's head off.  For the record I didn't want to bus Jee Jee. I only did it to get an extra day out of Mr. Wiggles. And next time you want to say something Bugs don't wait for the day post. Dead men tell no tales. I couldn't believe you guys didn't lynch me after that. Oh wait. We were busy killing Wiggles. | ||
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On September 08 2011 10:32 GreYMisT wrote: My guess is EA is not allowed to roleclaim, revealing that he knew who you were would indirectly reveal that he is the EA. not sure though. He could have made a case against me with out role claiming. I called him EA once and nobody noticed it. | ||
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. wanna make this a 24hr day so this pain stops quicker? :X
