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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 20 2011 18:29 GMT
#5
if a town player gets resurrected as a zombie, does his win condition change?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 29 2011 22:11 GMT
#45
15 you say

mid-sized games I love, and people keep killing me in the other games.

/in
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 29 2011 22:37 GMT
#47
On August 30 2011 07:23 chaos13 wrote:
Sure. Palmar needs someone to blame for everything that goes wrong.

/in


I need to rage a bit at you.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 29 2011 23:05 GMT
#49
##Blitz: Jackal
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 30 2011 19:24 GMT
#58
don't be a girl syllo, join the fun.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
August 31 2011 08:51 GMT
#71
yay!

Sanbroda!
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 01 2011 00:11 GMT
#92
On September 01 2011 09:09 chaos13 wrote:
Day 1 Begin

Let's make this a positive pro-town atmosphere for once. Be nice to each other and avoid spamming. If you can't handle that you're scum.


Shut up.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 01 2011 00:16 GMT
#95
(ît's a joke)

btw, sandroba should be storming in here with a plan any time soon.

but really, double lynch scummy fuckers, only res people who get night killed, maybe even vote whom we res so we can know if the necromancer is using his res, insta-re-lynch anyone who gets ressed without our consent.

derp derp!
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 01 2011 00:17 GMT
#97
Can mafia decide to nightkill mafia?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 01 2011 00:18 GMT
#99
On September 01 2011 09:16 chaos13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 09:11 Palmar wrote:
On September 01 2011 09:09 chaos13 wrote:
Day 1 Begin

Let's make this a positive pro-town atmosphere for once. Be nice to each other and avoid spamming. If you can't handle that you're scum.


Shut up.


##vote: Palmar

If we have a voting thread I'm gonna make that official. If you want to bring stupidity into this game you can get kicked right out as far as I'm concerned. I don't want anyone getting in the way of town being productive for once. I'm beginning to get really frustrated with the disregard for respect and positive town play in this game.


Town would be productive if people could pull their heads out of their asses and just read the thread without resorting to emotion. The only stupidity are people who get so blinded by the methods of others that they can't even think straight.

I'm here to find scum, not to please your idea of a "pro-town atmosphere".
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 01 2011 08:23 GMT
#147
On September 01 2011 12:20 Varpulis wrote:
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On September 01 2011 12:18 redFF wrote:
On September 01 2011 12:03 Varpulis wrote:
On September 01 2011 11:58 redFF wrote:
meh your first post was still scummy as shit varp, dont lurk, spam or troll, thanks for the tip.

what happens in almost every game?

People lurk, peoplePalmar spams, and the trolling bit is mostly just so i could fit in my "don't fakeclaim" thing, because apparently people don't know that. If you've been following XLIV, a fakeclaim got our medic killed (it was the medic fake-claiming).

I thought it was pertinent to add that little tip.

yeah your mafia...that was easy!

nice tunnel bro.


Tunneling can be extremely useful. In my opinion (and quite contrary to most other people's opinion) the best environment to find scum is when everyone is shouting and emotional. Only problem with this is half the town is always unable to disconnect themselves from the shitfest and re-read for hunting scum.

btw

This sentence:

"nice tunnel bro"

= I think you're scum.

##Vote Varpulis
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 01 2011 12:32 GMT
#151
So how about we lynch Varpulis and jcarlsoniv?

I think that'd be a good way to start the game.

Also, if sandroba doesn't start posting I'd be fine with lynching him.

I think redFF and chaos13 are almost definitely town, but I need more evidence to be conclusive.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 01 2011 12:53 GMT
#153
On September 01 2011 21:43 bumatlarge wrote:
Ill talk about wherebugsgo later today. Let's say I'd make him out to be similar to sandroba in terms of intelligence


I don't know what that means to you, but Sandroba is one of the stronger players in this game. Wherebugsgo has the ambition and time, but he's still relatively new.

Like, Sandroba is in my "If he's wrong, he's scum" category.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 01 2011 13:41 GMT
#157
Let's turn the question around, why should I not want to lynch you? All you've done so far in this game is post observations and summarizing the events already going on. I'm not saying red is town because I think he's good at scumhunting. I read the thread and draw my own conclusions. redFF is not a bad player, so after reading his posts I'm leaning towards town right now.

On you, however, I'm leaning towards scum.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 01 2011 15:16 GMT
#163
On September 01 2011 23:22 Ace wrote:
why do I sign up for these games


Why do you bother? It's not like you're actually trying. Most of us are. Why do you act as if what people are saying right now is final? We talk in circles to try to figure out what drives each one of us until we can pinpoint whoever is anti town.

The people that don't join in on the conversation are those who are really dangerous to town, because they don't leave behind anything to investigate them on.


By the way, I don't want to lynch jcarlvson anymore.

Now I wanna lynch Varpulis and Sandroba.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 01 2011 16:23 GMT
#167
add sinani206 to the list of people I don't want to lynch right now.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 01 2011 16:29 GMT
#169
On September 02 2011 01:26 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2011 00:16 Palmar wrote:
On September 01 2011 23:22 Ace wrote:
why do I sign up for these games


Why do you bother? It's not like you're actually trying. Most of us are. Why do you act as if what people are saying right now is final? We talk in circles to try to figure out what drives each one of us until we can pinpoint whoever is anti town.

The people that don't join in on the conversation are those who are really dangerous to town, because they don't leave behind anything to investigate them on.


By the way, I don't want to lynch jcarlvson anymore.

Now I wanna lynch Varpulis and Sandroba.


Why the sudden change of heart?


Do you miss the attention?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 01 2011 16:40 GMT
#171
It's something about your attitude, I think.

I don't think I can properly explain what swings my thoughts one way or the other, but it's mostly just reading the posts you post, and then trying to put myself in your situation, both as scum and town to try and figure out what made you post the things you did. I have decided that it's unlikely you'd have posted what you've posted, especially the last posts or so, if you were scum.

Thus, I'm inclined to not want to lynch you right now.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 01 2011 23:09 GMT
#195
sandroba has shown his face.

Don't know what to think yet, but meh.

I'm fine with killing Varpulis and ON at this point. Can do Varp/Bum too.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 02 2011 10:12 GMT
#242
@Bumatlarge: I already figured everything out.

@OriginalName: That's surprisingly bad, you should know Kenpachi always claims town.

So, I think it's unanimous that Varpulis should hang today. Everything from his apathetic "nice tunnel" defense to trying to deflect the lynch onto a random lurker screams that he should be lynched. He insists we should be scumhunting yet has not provided any scumhunting of his own, aside from "Kenpachi lurks, let's lynch".

sinani206 is a weird one, thing is even when he's town he is always up for lynching because he just posts incredibly scummy. He's also a favourite candidate for scum to try to lynch, but it's very hard to make the distinction of scum and well... townies who just think he's scummy. I'd rather not lynch sinani206 today.

redFF is posting in a manner that seems very fluent and unrestricted. This is unusual for him, although he's been known to make one-liners as scum too. Problem is that I feel like he's not making careful one-liners, but extremely dangerous one-liners. I think lynching redFF would be a really bad idea today.

chaos13 is another person that feels really open in his posting. He's slowly settling into what I'd consider his town meta of asking questions and being completely unable to find scum unless everyone is holding hands and being happy. I think he'd be one of the worst lynches today.

I think Wherebugsgo is town.

jcarlsonv also looks like he's town, I was sceptical at first, but all his posting looks like someone who is just earnestly trying to contribute to the discussion.

I'd not be cool with lynching Sandroba right now, no reason to lynch one of our best town players, especially when he seems to be putting effort into reading past games to form his opinions, I need to keep an eye on him though, because if he starts being wrong I should get him lynched.

Bumatlarge:

I don't like this post, I don't like it at all:

##Unvote varpulis

I still find it likely that varpulis can be scum (redff has made good points), but in the event that he is not, I would look heavily into these people, in order of scuminess IMO.


This is so weird, if you think it's likely he is scum, why do you feel necessary to coddle up to redFF's arguments, yet try to find some other lurkers, your list almost smells of "Let's make a list of people who are scummy and see which one picks off". Which is basically fishing for town opinion.

Thing is, it's ok not thinking Varpulis is scum, like, there's nothing wrong with being wrong, but the way you present this idea is... not something I like. I think you could possibly be a good lynch candidate today.

Ace and Jackal are just derps at this point, Jackal kindly provided us with a useless post about double lynches, and Ace is roleplaying. They've provided nothing that can be used to determine their alignment.. I expect a contribution from them or we get our daykiller guy to gun one of them down.

OriginalName is someone I'd strongly consider for scumderp, because he's just playing uncharacteristically bad. He's the person of the three I feel least strongly about though, if we can I'd lynch Varp and Bum.

And finally Drazerk and Sknowman, along with that Kenpachi person. Nothing to read, nothing to analyse. With Jackal and Ace that means there are in my opinion 5 complete null-tells in the game, and some of them are bound to be town. Those of you who are town really need to start posting so we can determine your alignment.

So without further ado, I think Kenpachi stupid and bad lynch. I think the race should be between:

Bumatlarge
Varpulis
OriginalName


So, i'm asking you all to take a bit of a leap of faith here, consider switching your votes to one of these guys, because any vote outside the three is going to be a wasted vote.

Ideally, we will have at least 5-6 votes on Bumatlarge and Varpulis each, but if someone feels one of my reads is blatantly wrong, I present a third option.

I'm going to switch my vote to Bumatlarge to get the ball rolling there. Anyone voting outside of those three should do one of the following:

a) Move your vote to one of the three.

b) Explain why the lynch is a bad lynch.

##Unvote Varpulis
##Vote Bumatlarge



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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 02 2011 10:30 GMT
#243
About mechanics (I'm actually suspicious of Sandroba for not posting this).

We should only resurrect people who we're almost certain are town. We should never resurrect lynched people. The high priest should use his power sparingly, I asked if mafia could shoot mafia because if not we'd get instantly confirmed townies by ressing the NK'd people, but mafia can, even if it's unlikely, shoot their own and have us res them for town cred.

We should always instantly lynch anyone that gets resurrected without good reason. In fact, we should only resurrect people who we agree on, I suggest majority voting for ressing people.

I think it may be beneficial not to use the high priest power, because even town-aligned reanimated zombies count towards mafia KP. So if we just agree to resurrect no one, we're basically gimping the mafia team of their greatest power.

Need to think on it.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 02 2011 10:36 GMT
#244
Oh, and here's a new rule:

Defending players with good arguments will not be considered scummy in this game.

So if anyone feels like my reads are off, I want to hear why, there's no such thing as being autoscum for defending people, it's only how and why you do it that can be analysed.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 02 2011 17:05 GMT
#262
feeling less sure about bum...

feeling more suspicious of sinani.

I need to re-read more.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 02 2011 17:08 GMT
#264
Varpulis should die, I agree.

But we need 2 lynches, I'm re-reading bum's, sinani's posts right now

I don't agree with lynching jcarl or ace at the moment.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 02 2011 17:08 GMT
#265
jcarl because I don't think he's scum, and Ace because he's completely a null-read at the moment.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 02 2011 21:07 GMT
#314
My vote is staying on Bum I think, I already laid out the reasons, and after re-reading sinani's posts, I think he's just playing his usual super-scummy townie play.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 02 2011 21:09 GMT
#316
On September 03 2011 06:08 sandroba wrote:
Igrok, can we please get a vote count?

We have to consolidate the votes now, so mafia can't lynch whoever they want.


I'm not sure we will get a vote-count, because of things like vote-block and pious thing.

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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 02 2011 21:19 GMT
#318
On September 03 2011 04:12 Ace wrote:
stop giving reads on every player in the game. It's fucking useless.


Hi, it's less useless than you.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 02 2011 21:23 GMT
#320
he voted for chaos13: I'll just say this now, I can't conclude chaos13's alignment. Like, I think he's town but someone else needs to pick up the slack. I simply can't know his alignment because his play is illogical.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 02 2011 22:24 GMT
#335
I fully support everyone doing whatever sandroba tells them to do atm.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 03 2011 07:36 GMT
#410
don't know if redFF is being accidentally or maliciously bad.

need to decide.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 03 2011 12:13 GMT
#411
##Vote bumatlarge
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 03 2011 14:18 GMT
#414
I agree with sandroba.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 03 2011 14:19 GMT
#415
let's just lynch jackal, ace and bum
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 03 2011 14:26 GMT
#416
oh lol, jackal is deadest.

let's kill ace and bum, gogo
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 03 2011 14:37 GMT
#417
Btw, Ace, if you post like whatever you think and know about the game right now, and if you happen to be town, we can probably piece the rest of this together.

I think WGB/Sandroba/redFF/Myself/jcarl are town

I think Kenpachi/Ace/chaos13 are null reads

I think ON/Bum are scum

Thing is, ON/Bum both pressured Kenpachi yesterday, which reduces the chances of him being scum, so if I'm correct it's down to Ace or chaos for scum.

Let's do it.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 03 2011 15:12 GMT
#420
yeah, chaos13 is the remaining scum.

gogo

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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 03 2011 16:06 GMT
#429
On September 04 2011 00:55 Ace wrote:
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On September 04 2011 00:51 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On September 04 2011 00:22 Ace wrote:
impossible. If sinani is scum then their KP wouldn't be reduced the same night because that would be bad modding or a totally different mechanic we aren't aware of. Scum don't lose KP on a night one of their members die, it always goes into effect for the next night.


I would want confirmation on this from iGrok. Cuuuuuuz that's stupid. If we killed a scum, that sucks for them, but we killed a scum. The rules say mafia kp is n/2. If we lynch a scum, that reduces scum numbers.


o wait I forgot sinani died by lynch, not night kill. Nevermind.


At which point are you going to enlighten us with some of your reads? you voted chaos13 last night, and based on chaos's latest post I think it's not a bad read.

It's pretty frustrating having to fish information out of people, but really, you are the last huge unknown factor in this game.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 04 2011 16:45 GMT
#557
On September 05 2011 00:35 wherebugsgo wrote:
A noob mafia :D

Neener neener ace whatcha gonna do when we come for youuuu

BTW where is Palmar? Palmar when you read this I want your opinions on ON/bum/Ace. I know you think chaos is mafia but judging from the way chaos posts large analyses (that ultimately are usually cherrypicked/wrong, from the analysis I've seen him put up in XLIV, here, and in cosmic) he's probably town.


pretty busy today, can write up stuff tomorrow.

two games in a row I have concluded that chaos13's reads cannot possibly be this bad, and thus he must be mafia, but two games in a row he has proven me wrong, once again I'm basing my read on him on the fact that I just don't agree with his reads.

Ace hasn't written anything, thus his alignment can't be determined yet. I think he's just being an asshole and not scum, but with so little to go on, the error margin is big.

Bum/On are my two primary targets for lynching today, only problem is that this setup sucks, so if we stick 4 on one, and 3 on the other, the mafia can stick 3 on the third and voteblock one of the three voting for bum/on, and thus guarantee a town kill, then they just reanimate someone as zombie and kill two more townies.

I haven't really done the math, but I can't see a way to actually win this thing.

I'm fine with lynching bum and on, let's do it. I'd be fine with day-vigging one of them and lynching chaos or ace.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 04 2011 16:50 GMT
#559
we should just make a list and have the dayvig shoot whoever doesn't comply with what's on the list.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 04 2011 19:46 GMT
#590
so, it's pretty clear we want to kill originalname and bum, can we please day-vig Ace? Just to make sure the votes cannot be swung in that direction.

So, please, daywalker... shoot Ace.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-05 07:05:56
September 05 2011 07:02 GMT
#709
+ Show Spoiler +
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 07 2011 08:54 GMT
#980
On September 07 2011 10:32 OriginalName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2011 10:18 wherebugsgo wrote:
Kill ON and Jackal

##vote OriginalName


ARE YOU SURE NOW!?!
ARE YOU SURE?


rofl

die scum die.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 07 2011 13:20 GMT
#985
should probably just kill jackal
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 07 2011 16:04 GMT
#988
##Vote Jackal58
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 09 2011 00:52 GMT
#1024
herp derp :D

It's not like roles actually matter when everyone posts enough on day one to get complete reads on everything.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 09 2011 00:52 GMT
#1025
can we see the mafia qt?

I wanna see the reasoning behind your n1 kills.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 09 2011 01:05 GMT
#1032
WBG definitely has all it takes to be a great player, I said so already.

I didn't get jackal on day 1, I am disappointed, the other two were easy.

Thanks for hosting iGrok, the theme and the setup turned out to be really awesome. I think the vote-block was kinda op, but the rest was really good.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
September 09 2011 14:51 GMT
#1044
The roleclaim felt off, but the main thing that ruined mafia this game was that half of town really established their innosence very early in the game.
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