Resurrection Mafia - Page 2

On September 05 2011 09:48 chaos13 wrote:
Jackal I have one problem with your claim.



Maybe it's a host slip and I'm seeing just seeing conspiracies, but the PM you describe gives away how you were returned to life.

On September 05 2011 09:50 sandroba wrote:
Also we should not lynch zombie today. We lynch bum who is 100% scum and ace who is 95% scum. That will keep kp neatly at one even if the game is not over somehow, so killing off ressed players is a waste today.

On September 05 2011 09:50 jcarlsoniv wrote:


But...you still died? lol



From OP

On September 05 2011 09:55 Drazerk wrote:


Got a PM when I died saying I MAY be revived and to continue reading the thread.

On September 05 2011 10:02 jcarlsoniv wrote:


Oh I understand. Did you try to protect someone night 1?

On September 05 2011 10:09 jcarlsoniv wrote:


I don't find bum's claim as ridiculous as you do. I don't necessarily believe his claim, but I have had a sneaking suspicion that I am the pious since the first night. This makes it very difficult for me to decide which one of you to believe. Your arguments against his claim ARE very weak. "Coloring his role green instead of blue, and using the word "are" instead of "is".

On September 06 2011 00:13 chaos13 wrote:
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see 4 scum in this setup. If it was a standard game, yeah probably just 3, but with the ability of town to confirm people like sinani and varp and resurrect them, and with roles like Daywalker (which unfortunately doesn't seem to be present) and Guardian Angel (assuming your claim is true) and the Pious Voter (assuming they don't suck at scumhunting) I would say town has a definite advantage that would be balanced out by 4 mafia. I don't want us to get stuck in a tunnel of believing there is only 3 scum and then be confused later.

I also don't think mafia will zombify ON. There would be no point to it. He would be lynched immediately so all they've done is made us waste a lynch. They don't actually gain KP from it in the end. Instead they're more likely to revive a town player that was lynched or killed. Why wouldn't they? It turns town against town, essentially, forcing us to use a lynch against our own members.

On September 06 2011 04:22 wherebugsgo wrote:
Wtf why would mafia not res ON? That's 1 KP, mafia plus zombie= 1 KP.

On September 06 2011 04:45 sandroba wrote:
If we kill both scum today it's game over afaik. If priest is alive target palmar.

On September 06 2011 04:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
What's a VI?

Also I say we lynch jcarl/kenpachi tomorrow. If ON somehow gets ressed then replace one of them with ON.

No offense to either of you guys, but kenpachi has been super hardcore mode lurking and jcarl suggested we have 5-6 mafia (rofl) and has been doing things that suggest to me he's new when apparently he's more experienced than sandroba.

That is rather fishy to me.

On September 06 2011 05:08 wherebugsgo wrote:
I didn't actually even think about that.

I think you might be right, Jackal. Also Kenpachi's last post is really makin me suspicious of him.

Lynch kenpachi instead of Ace?

On September 06 2011 07:29 sandroba wrote:


Well, I'm almost positive ace is scum. He pushed the lynch on redFF ytd, but seen how absurd the idea was he didn't get much support except from the scum team. Also from his day1 play and considering the setup VI is very unlikely (there is double lynch and players get ressurected ffs).
Bum is 100% scum and ON was scum, so it's not like it's the end of the word if somehow we mislynch ace.

On September 06 2011 09:54 sandroba wrote:
I have no hard proof all I have is behaviour and logic. Mafia is indeed a game of assumptions and that's how you work out the most reasonable explanation. The hard facts I have is that kp was 2 + minion day1 and 1 day2, plus the fact that I've been roleblocked twice while voting bumatlarge when otherwise he would be lynched.

Now the number of mafia players present is an important expeculation. I've given many reasons already why a number of mafia greater than 3 would be imbalanced and in one of your posts you agree with my logic. It also can't be lower than 3 due to balance and kp from day1. That being said that does indeed confirm varpulis and sinani as town.

One thing I find funny is that you jump all over redFF's claim, but you say nothing about bum's. That is contradictory to your own personal logic. Look at bum's claim. If he was town and indeed had that role how would you use that? You would try to fucking confirm townies by checking lists that had one vote looking for pious. That would be the most obvious thing to do and probably imbalanced as it would 100% confirm a player to bum in that case. Yet you never bothered to look into his claim nor at his behaviour. I wonder why.

Another example of contradictory behaviour:


Why? How come? Don't you find it slightly intriguing that there is a medic on a setup that people can ressurect? Jackal is suddenly legit to you based on nothing, but somehow you think when other players use reasoning to deduce if a claim is likely or not to be legit than they are "jumping to conclusions". Nice double standards right there. Your rules only apply to others, but not to you when you are pushing your objectives.

On September 06 2011 10:15 sandroba wrote:
@Jackal That's not the point in my post. Are you convinced Ace is scum yet? =P

On September 06 2011 10:18 Ace wrote:


What happens if there is 4 Scum