EPTOn September 03 2011 06:18 sandroba wrote:
No, what I mean is a table showing who voted for whom.
No, what I mean is a table showing who voted for whom.
gimme a sec
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iGrok
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iGrok
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On September 03 2011 06:08 sandroba wrote: Igrok, can we please get a vote count? We have to consolidate the votes now, so mafia can't lynch whoever they want. There will be no vote count. I will tell you who has voted for who. Jackal58 =====chaos13 RedFF=======Varpulis Sknowman====jcarlsoniv Kenpachi=====Varpulis wherebugsgo==OriginalName sinani206=====bumatlarge Drazerk=======sinani206 jcarlsoniv=====sinani206 Varpulis======sinani206 Ace==========chaos13 Original Name==Kenpachi Palmar========bumatlarge chaos13=======Palmar bumatlarge====Kenpachi Sandroba======bumatlarge | ||
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sandroba
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jcarlsoniv
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On September 03 2011 06:32 iGrok wrote: There will be no vote count. I will tell you who has voted for who. Jackal58 =====chaos13 RedFF=======Varpulis Sknowman====jcarlsoniv Kenpachi=====Varpulis wherebugsgo==OriginalName sinani206=====bumatlarge Drazerk=======sinani206 jcarlsoniv=====sinani206 Varpulis======sinani206 Ace==========chaos13 Original Name==Kenpachi Palmar========bumatlarge chaos13=======Palmar bumatlarge====Kenpachi Sandroba======bumatlarge Ok, well from this we can still gather a table. This is (I'm sure) not 100% accurate because of pious and/or any other hidden voting mechanics. chaos13 (2) Jackal58 Ace Varpulis (2) RedFF Kenpachi jcarlsoniv (1) Sknowman OriginalName (1) wherebugsgo bumatlarge (3) sinani206 Palmar Sandroba sinani206 (3) Drazerk jcarlsoniv Varpulis Kenpachi (2) OriginalName bumatlarge Palmar (1) chaos13 | ||
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redFF
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On September 03 2011 06:47 sandroba wrote: Let's not lynch sinani, he is scummy despite alignment and I don't see anything that jumps scum in his posts so far. Let's lynch Bum and ON gogogo consolidate fast. -_- | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
On September 03 2011 04:10 Varpulis wrote: Alright, It looks like trying to convince you guys not to lynch me is a lost cause (admittedly i did a pretty poor job to begin with, but that's beside the point) I'm going to filter everybody and give my brief opinions on them. They won't be taken seriously now, i know, but hopefully they'll have more weight when a coroner checks me, which should happen eventually. The people saying that we shouldn't revive lynches are right. If scum want a lynch back, let them do it themselves. Zombies are temporary, so unless they're as scummy as scummy can be, lynching them night not be necessary. If they're increasing kp, by all means lynch lynch lynch, but if you believe mafia to have, for example, 3 players left, a zombie won't actually increase their kp, so you might as well just wait for them to die. High priest should be reviving night kills, because those are far more likely to be town. Without further ado, my reads: Jackal58 + Show Spoiler + leaning green, but there's not much to go on. he's playing his usual style as far as i can tell, and the reasoning behind his vote is relatively sound. RedFF + Show Spoiler + He's wrong, but he's not mafia. His suspicion and application of pressure and moderate tunneling are both pro town and effective. Sknowman + Show Spoiler + lurky, but his one post is good and informative. Not sure, leaning town. Kenpachi + Show Spoiler + no fucking clue, as usual. Wherebugsgo + Show Spoiler + scummy. Most of his posts are talking about mechanics and plans, aka "hey look i'm contributing without actually taking a stance or giving reads." Then he jumps on ace, who's as much lynch bait as i am at this point. sinani206 + Show Spoiler + also scummy. Soft defends me and then votes redFF with the explanation "he's scummy." When that doesn't work he jumps on the bumatlarge wagon again with the explanation "he's scummy." No explanation, nothing. Keep a close eye on this guy. Drazerk + Show Spoiler + lurky. Only 2 posts in the game, votes sinani, which i agree with. needs to post more. jcarlsoniv + Show Spoiler + i've got a town read on him, based on his attitude, activity, and the content of his posts. I don't see the scum motives in his posting, but this is more of a gut read than anything else Ace + Show Spoiler + had some early posts that weren't too bad, then started trolling with his journal. Null read, would like to see him actually contribute. A player who trolls even when asked to stop is a liability. OriginalName + Show Spoiler + Doesn't like meta lynching, votes Kenpachi on meta (???). contradiction, scummy. Needs to post more Palmar + Show Spoiler + Strong town. considers multiple points of view, and is able to step out of tunnel vision and make objective decisions. Filter him if you need any more convincing Chaos13 + Show Spoiler + wishy washy as hell. Not taking risks, votes palmar because Palmar was mean to him (aka didn't listen to his atmosphere post) Leaning scum bumatlarge + Show Spoiler + votes me because i made a "useless post" when there was nothing to discuss or post about. Unvotes with literally the same clause as redff (I still think he's scum, but let's lynch somebody else) Makes little sense to me. votes kenpachi on meta. I disagree with his posts about the high priest always reviving lynches. tl;dr the following people are scummy: WBG sinani206 Chaos13 bumatlarge Out of that pool, I'd like to lynch either sinani or bum. I'll look at the vote counts (I think i'll have to look through manually, but whatever) then make my decision with a proper accusation. THIS GUY IS SO MAFIA ITS FUCKING RIDICULOUS HOLY SHIT WHY IS HE NOT LEADING VOTES BY A COLOSSAL MARGIN. | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
##Unvote ##Vote Varpulis | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
On September 03 2011 05:13 Ace wrote: ## vote chaos13 Let chaos reign! THIS IS RETARDED. VARP SINANI SCUM OBV. This game is so dumb, on why are you voting kenpachi you know better than that. | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
varpulis, sinani, sandroba, originalname, ace(though his posting is getting better), bumatlarge. Don't resurrect varpulis or sinani plz coroner varp. | ||
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redFF
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On September 03 2011 06:23 Palmar wrote: he voted for chaos13: I'll just say this now, I can't conclude chaos13's alignment. Like, I think he's town but someone else needs to pick up the slack. I simply can't know his alignment because his play is illogical. what do you think of sinani. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
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On September 03 2011 06:52 redFF wrote: THIS GUY IS SO MAFIA ITS FUCKING RIDICULOUS HOLY SHIT WHY IS HE NOT LEADING VOTES BY A COLOSSAL MARGIN. It might have something to do with the fact that your main argument for why he's scum is "ZOMG HES SO SCUM". That tends not to be very effective. | ||
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sandroba
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On September 03 2011 06:54 bumatlarge wrote: what the fuck sandroba? ##Unvote ##Vote Varpulis What the fuck is what I say to you. Why are you voting varpulis? Are you even trying to find scum in this thread or do you only care about not being lynched? RedFF your meta argument is shit and too shallow. Explain to me how varpulis is scum in a coherent way and stop spamming he is scum in every single post you make. | ||
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redFF
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=257019&user=154261 | ||
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sandroba
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@Ace after all that talk about how bad it is for people to get lynched with 3 votes, won't you do anything to stop that from happening? like pushing your candidate or voting on one of the leading ones? | ||
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Palmar
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bumatlarge
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On September 03 2011 07:01 sandroba wrote: What the fuck is what I say to you. Why are you voting varpulis? Are you even trying to find scum in this thread or do you only care about not being lynched? RedFF your meta argument is shit and too shallow. Explain to me how varpulis is scum in a coherent way and stop spamming he is scum in every single post you make. Of course I will try to save myself, varpulis has been remarkably scummy this game and you're arguments as to why I'm on top of the list are ridiculous. My vote was on whoever I thought was scummiest at all times. On September 01 2011 09:54 Varpulis wrote: I have a proposal, for the purpose of maximizing efficiency with our mandated double lynch. For the first day, maybe the first 2, we lynch a scummy person, one of average activity, and the scummiest lurker. This achieves all of the goals of a day one lynch (lynch somebody who people have given an opinon on and who will give information when/if we see them flip, as per the goal of a normal game), as well as eliminating a lurker. Lurkers are hard to read and dare i say distracting to the town as the game goes on, so i'd like to take advantage of the tools given to us and get rid of them early. As the game continues we will have more information to go on, and the chances of us accurately lynching more than one scum are increased, so we can lynch normally. For someone who thinks they can accuse me for putting my vote where is convenient sure has some nerve to ignore what varpulis is saying here. Obsessing over lurkers is the oldest trick for mafia to appear active. And speculating on the format is necessary. We have to consider it in our lynches since lynches and kills are potentially temporary, and all powers revolve around dead people. On September 02 2011 02:17 Varpulis wrote: ugh. Not only am I still thought of as scum, but you guys are postulating a scumteam? Need i remind you that nothing is learned when i die. I won't flip, you'll have nothing to go on other than assumptions unless a coroner checks me. I'm not going to try to defend myself past this statement: I'm town. If you lynch me, you bring yourselves one step closer to lylo and one step further from winning. If you're deciding upon a scumteam based on who is defending me, you're going to lose this game handily. I'm going to try and reread the thread and find a better lynch than me. Generically trying to put off your death by saying there is no-flip? The bolded sentence refers to everyone, using it as a defense is desperation that early in the day. Varpulis is scum, and don't try to push it off him by trying to scold redff, who posted a very good analysis on varpulis. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
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On September 03 2011 07:23 sandroba wrote: Ace/jackal/ON/chaos/jacarl can you please switch vote to someone more meaningful? If things stay like they are as of now mafia pretty much gets to choose who they lynch. @Ace after all that talk about how bad it is for people to get lynched with 3 votes, won't you do anything to stop that from happening? like pushing your candidate or voting on one of the leading ones? Why is that? You sound like you have information that the rest of us don't have. Maybe the scum list, perhaps... I'm going out to dinner. I'm not changing my vote. I'm getting scummy reads off of sinani, and my vote is staying there. I'll be reading and keeping up on my phone. | ||
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sandroba
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The very good analysis you are refering to is basically redFF saying one of the first posts on the thread is non contributory and appearing to be pro-town. He pointed out that he did so as scum in a previous game, in which he got lynched day 1 for it. If you are judging only meta from his very first post, do you really think he would do the same shit again? Or do you think it's more likely that despite the risk of getting lynched he was legimately concerned about spamming/lurking/trolling going on in the recent tl games? | ||
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sandroba
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On September 03 2011 07:38 jcarlsoniv wrote: Why is that? You sound like you have information that the rest of us don't have. Maybe the scum list, perhaps... I'm going out to dinner. I'm not changing my vote. I'm getting scummy reads off of sinani, and my vote is staying there. I'll be reading and keeping up on my phone. Are you really this blind? If a roleblocker blocks one of the voters and the votes are this close they pretty much get to choose who doesn't get lynched. | ||
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