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10 of 10 Mafia remaining ? of ? Goons remaining ? of 1 Godfathers remaining ? of 1 Roleblockers remaining ? of 1 Framers remaining Also, through my powerful deducing abilities, I have determined that there are not ? goons, but 7! | ||
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Sorry guys, just did a fucking social written exam so I may not be keen on writing a ton so I'll try to keep active. My thoughts are pretty basic right now because I don't really feel day 1 is the best time to start (sort-of)tunneling after my experiences in my last game. Foolishness - :/ Don't know why he buddied up to BM so hard so quickly without even seeing him play. Palmar - Occam's razor dictates we should lynch this guy because he's displaying all of his supposed traits when he's mafia (never played a game with him as mafia before except when I was mafia and he was brilliant, but that was like a year ago). Wherebugsgo - On January 13 2012 19:11 wherebugsgo wrote: wtf all you tryhards already have massive mayoral candidacies going? -_- I'll support sandro/Foolish/BC for mayor if I feel any of them are town. That'll take some reading. Which I don't feel like doing right now. Right now, I feel like playing Akali. The rest of you: if you are voting anyone other than those three, please explain why. This post ticked me off. First of all, he's making excuses outright for being inactive. Secondly, he's limiting the game to 3 people right off the bat, saying they won't need any reasons to elect other than your vote, but any other votes would. This is just weird and... meh. BC - You're the current lead for who I'm going to elect tonight, but I'm most likely going to do it tommorow when I have more thoughts on you. My first impressions tell me that you're town aligned, but people are saying you're really fucking good as scum so I don't want to make the mistake of putting you in a DT-invul role. On the whole mason thing, let's be honest guys it's like a 60% town read over scum read. It's pretty fucking neutral, but the fact he's being this transparent this early on leads me to believe that he's being town. Again, if he gets a mafia to claim mason for him, and he turns out to be mafia later on down the road, we get a two-for-one deal, which would obviously be awesome. I'll be reading as it goes, trying to make up my mind on a few things! | ||
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 ).Anyway, on to current subject matter first: Re: Palmar All I can say is one more day. If what people are saying about him is true, he's done this before first day and "turned on" so to speak in the second day. Of course, he has also just stayed like this. Basically, there's nothing to particularly LOSE if we don't lynch him today, as we won't magically forget he's been a lazy bastard for the entire game so far when the mayor is elected now will we? Re: Mattchew being elected Said already, you're not confirmed, and you're obviously a pretty bad spot if you think you're confirmed because you pmed a dude. If we could see that PM log, that story may change though (if Foolishness says a role you don't want revealed you can censor that if it's keeping you). Seriously, if you're campaign is about transparency, show us examples. Re: BC Accusations BCs defense is pretty good on it IMO, and it does seem like he's stretching the facts a bit, especially when BC actually quoted what he said. Of course, this does give me some suspicions as I really don't know who to trust out of the two at the moment as they both have good arguments against one another. That said, proc seems a bit fuzzy for me, as he's been really inactive and just suddenly shows up and disappears again, just to cause chaos. RE: Masons/PMs Shut up. This whole discussion is fucking retarded, seriously. I know I was in it, but we're over this, let's pick who the fuck we should lynch, k? Now on to some stuff I was looking at: - Sandroba: Why is everybody trusting him so blindly while he's offering so little to the table right now? He's pushed Ciryandor, made a generic mayor post, and pushed Mason mass claim HARD (I know I agreed, but now that I think about it it doesn't really add as much transparency as I thought. Claim =/= pm logs). That's all I have to say about him :/ - Wherebugsgo: On January 13 2012 19:11 wherebugsgo wrote: wtf all you tryhards already have massive mayoral candidacies going? -_- I'll support sandro/Foolish/BC for mayor if I feel any of them are town. That'll take some reading. Which I don't feel like doing right now. Right now, I feel like playing Akali. The rest of you: if you are voting anyone other than those three, please explain why. Already mentioned this post but will again cause no one payed attention to it. Will gladly support no-support votes for sandroba/Foolishness/BC, but won't accept any others and says he wants support if it's another choice. - Has also pushed an easy case on Palmar. If we do lynch Palmar and he turns out to be scum, I'm worried about WBG's alignment FOR SURE. Overall read is pretty null, but the several instances of getting people back on track and the fact he is pure tunneling Palmar right now leads me to believe he's more town than mafia. I actually thought he was scummier until I read his filter again Going to bed now, expecting to be at page 100 by then XP | ||
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On January 14 2012 17:38 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Palmar you covered. Why opz/me/sheth/bum? He has covered you, look through his filter. | ||
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Another would be shit like this: On January 15 2012 11:08 wherebugsgo wrote: no, it isn't. It's not even completely based on meta. CC and Palmar just keep asserting that it's completely based on meta on the fact that I summed it up with one word, saying meta. The reason I summed it up was to bait to see if Palmar would spin that I had no case. He did exactly that. You don't find it weird that he wants VE in office despite calling VE bad over and over? What's the use of electing someone bad to an office that protects them? What's the use if VE would never get shot? Why would Palmar not run for office if he's town? Why would Palmar suddenly support Protact and provide no reason for it? Why is Palmar not scumhunting? Why is Palmar focusing so much on defending himself when it's only me who is attacking him? He focused on defending himself so much, in fact, that he's literally commented on nothing else. Which is not that shocking, I suppose, since he hasn't done anything to begin with. Why do Palmar's only two non-one-liner posts contain almost 100% fluff? None of these are meta reasons to kill Palmar, yet no one cares. Yes, it was completely based on meta. Look through his filter, and he doesn't mention any of the shit in this post until this post, he even said stuff like: "Cyber_Cheese, but it's clear you don't actually understand how powerful meta is". I also found some contradictions in him saying Palmar isn't scumhunting, when he's only been presuring Palmar the entire time, and he says that Palmar is just saying this is bad, with no explanation, and he does the same thing repeadtedly. Conclusion: Leaning Scum on WBG | ||
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IMO, DTs should target Masons and Jacks. This gives us a higher chance of landing on a mafia. | ||
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On January 14 2012 02:14 VisceraEyes wrote: WIFOM with a dash of CONFIRMING THAT YOU WERE ROLE-FISHING? You're right - scum can't be this bad. Don't role-fish. It's what scum do to try and find blue roles to kill at night. Try and find scum, not our blue roles. They'll do their job without you cheering them on because you found them. -.- Great post. On January 14 2012 03:36 VisceraEyes wrote: This is the post BM is pushing as Cyber_Cheese trying to "force a mislynch" This post is very obviously a joke based on site-meta...Mr. Wiggles rolls scum A LOT and I for one giggled when CC posted this. Anyone who says BM's case on CC trying to "force a mislynch" of Mr. Wiggles is assuming 2 things: 1) CC was serious about that vote, and 2) Mr. Wiggles is automatically town. Both of these things are ridiculous to assume at this point in the game. I'm inclined to believe Mr. Wiggles is town based on his posts myself, but when CC had posted this, and subsequently when BM called him scum for it, Wiggles hadn't posted ANYTHING. If anything, I'd say it makes BM suspicious for knowing that Wiggles is town and CC was pushing a "mislynch". Think, guys. Great post again. On January 14 2012 03:39 VisceraEyes wrote: BC, I consider your claim to be scummy for this reason: you're essentially leveraging your role to win you this election. Discuss. Now we're getting somewhere. Notice that this is a contradiction on his part, as he himself uses his role to put himself in a spot for election. On January 14 2012 05:17 VisceraEyes wrote: BC, are you for or against a mass-mason claim? I like the idea behind the discussion this is generating, but I'd like your opinion as much as you'd like everyone else's opinion. Personally, I'm torn on the mass-mason claim. It makes sense in that Mafia will be put to the decision to either kill them or let them mason away...but with their own masons, it seems to me like they'll probably avoid killing them as to not draw any attention to THEIR masons (by them surviving). Yay! Neutrality. BTW, one post later (in his filter), he decides that mass claim would be a good idea. On January 14 2012 10:31 VisceraEyes wrote: JJ wut up dawg, you rollin wit me? I'll make you my Minister of Slips or Secretary of TownCred...both positions are vacant up in this piece. :D WBG: Are you like, convinced of Palmar's guilt? His play has been null as fuck if you discount any meta, which is what I've forced myself to do at this point. It's D1 after all, and there are better D1 lynches in my opinion. Another contradiction. For those that didn't know, he was one of the first to attack Palmar based on meta, and even made it part of his campaign to lynch him. He then changes his opinion AGAIN when questioned. He goes from: my campaign is lynching him, to not the best D1 lynch, to yeah, let's fucking lynch him. On January 15 2012 04:55 VisceraEyes wrote: ##Daykill: Cyber_Cheese That's right motherfuckers, I'm the Town Jack. CyberCheese is pushing his scum candidate BC, who needs to NOT be mayor. You asshats need to unvote BC if CC flips scum and whoever is mayor needs to lynch me if he flips town. Tired of this shit. Jitsu masoned me, and was trying to get me to comment on BC/Protract. I think he's scum too. Also on my list of scum is Palmar, for obvious reasons. Yeah bitches, he doesn't just accuse those who accuse him, he tries to daykill them. Oh yeah. On January 15 2012 06:17 VisceraEyes wrote: Seriously guys this is all hands on deck. I'm very town and I'm very Jack. I need to be mayor. VOTES ON VE GOGOGO This isn't me trying to leverage my role to win the election - if I wanted to do that I would have done that already and not called BC out on it right after his claim. This is me trying to keep one of our most powerful roles IN THE GAME. I'm not going to do anymore stupid shit if you elect me. ...yes it is. On January 15 2012 06:50 VisceraEyes wrote: L, I'll prove I'm Jack by shooting tonight and Masoning you tomorrow then. That's my plan. This would waste his role completely. On January 15 2012 17:56 VisceraEyes wrote: @GiygaS I listen to you bro. Remember that game where you and Palmar fucked me up as mafia? His play was spectacular that game...he really convinced me he was a townie when I was calling for his HEAD D2. You played the fallguy to a T, not outting him at all. I was thoroughly impressed, and I'm not the only one. Palmar doesn't do shit like that anymore. When you left, Palmar's play took a SHARP turn for the worse, and he's lucky to live past D2 these days. I thought he was scum all game too...especially when he still vouched for me for office. I guess my point is, I think you're barking up the wrong tree where WBG is concerned. Here's how you handle that guy. @WBG Would you link to the most recent game where you were town and Palmar was scum? @Cyber_Cheese Would you point to a post with content that Palmar made during D1 that wasn't within 30 minutes of the lynch please? Failing that, could you stfu about WBG's meta-only case on Palmar? I'm going to feel really bad for saying this... But I can't tell if you're being genuine, or you're just trying to cater to emotions. Reminder that I'm only saying this because I need to be as objective as possible in Mafia. >.< Finally, his slightly spammy play (6 pages already, and a lot of it is just discussing flavor of the page shit). | ||
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On January 16 2012 06:50 Toadesstern wrote: had a townread on bum early on. Later on he said he wants sandroba to be sheriff (who I think to be scum) and he said trusts palmar to be town without giving a reason while everyone else who said he trusts palmar gave a reason why he does so. Although he said he wanted sandroba to be sheriff he voted kita, switched to BM and ended up on proc as far as I know. Another thing is him regretting his vote so early: klick me Feels weird overall but I'm not so sure. Also there's a lot of connections between him and bc+sandroba which I both think might be scumm. I thought protact is town. I'm really unsure about what to think off him right now. Certainly don't like those vote boosts he got. In a game of lol, you'll get my thoughts about sandroba in about 40 mins :p What is it about people in Mafia that only play MOBAs (Dota2, HoN, LoL)? | ||
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