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10 pg in the 8 h i've slept.
Coming back to BM:
On January 21 2012 12:50 Bill Murray wrote:
I'm not taking a bomb off
I'm either putting another bomb out, or jailing to try to protect someone like a medic like if someone like Foolishness was just a townie, I could jailkeep them for 2 nights to guarantee they get to late game. That is more valuable. I am 50% protactinium is scum based on the election - it's either him or BC. I'm not moving that bomb, unless we're lynching BC.
So, you believed his hatter claim, and now this?
1.Foolishness has not been that useful to town this game.Protact has.
Same old,same old with scum running for mayor.What if you, my friend were that one scum?
Also, general vagueness in his post, which is not something you want at this stage as town.
Why da fuck move that bomb if BC was lynched? Best choice seems to move the bomb on BC seeing that you believe someone up top is scum.
IMO, this is a pretty late, weak attempt at bussing, knowing that BC's case can't go till the end.Also he tries to make BC look town, which is pretty much undecided
From what I could glean from the thread, mafia seemed not to care about killing the mayor or the sheriff.Well that may well be the sign that they have, most likely, the top 2 spots in town ATM.
Sandro's flip tells me that they had to lynch scum D3:
It was BM or an inactive,drunk sandro. Obvious choice here.
But, hey , mafia are mafia, and BC and Foolish moved their votes onto Sandro 3 or so h before deadline, simulating fear that Protact may die. This was an elaborate move orchestrated by scum, and Bm's wagon never got there. Dirty,scummy votes will be found on sandro's wagon, as they wanted to avoid lynching both BM and Sandro, so they got onto sandro because it makes them look pro-town.
I ain't buying it.BM has fucked up big time, we gotta vote him out tomorrow.
Vote Double lynch tomorrow.They'll have 5 members after BM's dead, if we nail 1 on D5/N4 either through vigis or DL, we have crippled them enough to make things easier.
I am expecting hiro to claim jailed, regardless of whether it is the truth or not. This actually helps town nail BM, is a relatively undetectable lie, as if he isn't Jailed/RB he can give his reads with 1 day delay. So unless hiro is SCUM,
prepare for a jailed claim.
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Ps: Tell me how to write in red font PLS
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I don't ,,assume'' there is a RB. I say there's a strong probability for it to be one.
Please explain why hiro wouldn't lie in this situation.
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,,Most of the town wants to lynch BM''
That didn't seem to be the case yesterday. We would have gotten rid of 2 scum then.
It doesn't matter about hiro's read of BM.As long as he feels BM's scum, he should do this,because at this moment, Mafia may well have 8 votes, not 6 and can rig the election by starting a third-party bandwagon under the fear that BM's a hatter and that he may claim putting bombs on other important players. We gave him a night's respite for nothing, and now mafia may rig this again.
Hiro will not be counterclaimed if he claims jailed: It would start a fight that would perhaps end in lynching a DT.
Any counterclaims to hiro's claim to be jailed will be considered as Scum.
Reason:The gain in information,by claiming jailed, is far outweighted by the possibility to start a fight.
Also, I account for the possibility of hiro being scum.If he is scum, he wouldn't want to lynch BM tomorrow and claimed DT KNOWING sandro was getting lynched anyways.I explained this above.He gained town credit, and now I account for the possibility of him leading us into a mislynch by being scum,and then claiming framed/miller whatever.
Now, if everyone reads my post, no one should counterclaim if hiro claims jailed. I am basically forcing hiro to claim jailed in order to have BM lynched. It is the nr 1 priority now.
If hiro reads this and doesn't claim jailed, something is fishy. We'll look into his DT claim then, and decide.
I think this way we get the most scum in the fastest way possible. Correct me if i'm wrong.
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I'm not asking you to jail hiro, I'm asking hiro to claim being jailed regardless of your choice this night.
This is to assure we're lynching you, scum.
You have escaped lynching yesterday by BS-ing us.I think that's unfair.
Stop bending what i say, I believed protact was bussing, I was not 100% sure. Unlikely, now that L has flipped red.
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On January 21 2012 22:58 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 22:51 rgTheSchworz wrote:
I'm not asking you to jail hiro, I'm asking hiro to claim being jailed regardless of your choice this night.
This is to assure we're lynching you, scum.
You have escaped lynching yesterday by BS-ing us.I think that's unfair.
Stop bending what i say, I believed protact was bussing, I was not 100% sure. Unlikely, now that L has flipped red.
How does L flipping red make it unlikely that Protact was bussing Macpo? How does anything you say make sense? Also, I really desire that we lynch BM tomorrow. The fact that he got elected is actually pissing me off right now.
L was on Protact's agenda, right? Ciry too, Macpo too.
I deem it unlikely that Protact would have pulled this off on 3 teammates.
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Hiro, In my eyes I'm not even sure you're a DT. Your claim came at an akward time, about 2h before deadline. Sandro was leading then, and was 80% sure to be lynched.
I wonder if you're not red and tried(succesfully) to get votes off BM.
I wouldn't have bothered lynching BM and Sandro back then, but then you come, claim DT, and surprise surprise, you claim roleblocked last night!
I don't paint you red from the get-go, but lynching BM was and is important, and you come and stop that. Your information could isn't something that scum couldn't have, and well, sandro was dying ANYWAY.
So fakeclaiming would not have been risky at all.
In fewer words: I want your say on BM, and why wouldn't you release the name you checked N2,
conveniently stating that most of us consider him town anyway.
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You mean kill not lynch surely? Lemme read last 3 pages, I have had the same thoughts about hiro.
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What's the point of crumbing if you actually tell you're crumbing? It's like you want to tell your boss something secret but you say out loud you're using morse code.
Pointless.This is clearly meant to confuse, as a VT check isn't that valuable unless it's someone important right?
Although I want to lynch BM, and hiro voted BM earlier, this has left some room for doubt.
The fact that you weren't medic saved means scum don't want you dead. Since some ppl suggest that scum doublestacked, why the F didn't they doublestack you?
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My friend, better give the name of your N2 check, and fast.
If your check doesn't make any sense, you're scum.
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Jaj22, I thought that he would get RB.But then scum have to use RB every night on him.
Now i'm not so sure 3-4 nights of roleblocking are worth a doublestack.
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So either Protact was higher priority, and they'll try to get hiro tonight, or there isn't a RB and Hiro is scum.
First case dictates Lynch BM. I am waiting for Hiro's response to cast my vote
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Once per night, you may send in a PM detailing a person you would like to block. That person will be notified that they were blocked .
So even if VE didn't use any actions N1 and N2 he would still be notified he was blocked.
Either VE is scum and obv wasn't blocked or there isn't a RB in the game.
No one claimed Roleblocked D2 and D1.
There was a clear target in VE to roleblock.
VE or Hiro are scum.
So, following this post ##Vote: Double Lynch
At this point where we got 1 scum outta these 2, not voting Double Lynch is and should be considered Antitown.
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On January 23 2012 08:22 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2012 07:47 Cyber_Cheese wrote:On January 23 2012 05:00 hiro protagonist wrote:Yes, I realize my actions helped keep BM alive day3. I will not make the same mistake, Of course I will help you lynch Bill today. I thought It was obvious in my last post thats what I wanted to do. I also want to re read the thread, which is what Im doing now. better to check twice than make a rash decision at this point. also, everyone should vote for the DL today. ##Vote: Bill Murry##Vote: Double LynchAs for the results of my day 2 check, I will release that if it becomes relivent. As for now, I Have a good reason for keeping that info quite  Give us the name and alignment, so we can work with that. We don't actually need to know the persons role. I really think hiro has said that the person he checked is blue, so giving us a name now would kinda be a giveaway. Keep the name until he thinks it's relevant.
My second check came back Green, but I wont reveal whom till just before the day post. or if BC wants to mason me, I will tell him, but I think he could chose better people to mason then me so
Stop speaking about bluehunting, this man has had a green check.Don't give him reasons not to release the name, we'll have a confirmed townie the moment hiro is confirmed.
The more we get out of hiro, the sooner we'll be able to judge his alignment.
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On January 21 2012 09:30 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2012 09:25 Slardar wrote:
Interesting to note BC, Protract and Foolishness all immediately have taken votes off BM. They're all scum? Is that what you want to say? pfff You guys. Sometimes I don't know what you're thinking. This setup is somehow balanced.
I am 100% sure that at least 2 of these guys are town.I am working throgh the thread right from the beginning and sorting my lists and copy quotes. it's incredibly annoying to deal with stupid things like this all the time. I mean. If I reread your filter in endgame. What do I think? If no funny coincidence confirms you as town, you're free to lynch in my eyes. You're unjudgeable. We have to get rid of people like this.
I think here supersoft is showing scumsigns.Bc and Foolishness I do suspect, partly because of meta on foolish, he's normally very active as town, and a great town player. This game he has done almost nothing. BC/Foolish are getting too much credit because of Protact right now.
Furthermore,unjudgeable means 80% town/20% scum, it's really not profitable to get rid of people randomly.
If they're not active they're gonna get modkilled anyway.
The solution would be to put the pressure onto these kind of guys,make them post relevant stuff so they can make mistakes.
Supersoft looks very scum to me.
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Because he dissmisses BC/Foolish too easily as town and that he wants to lynch slardar on the basis he's unreadable, which is basically a RANDOM lynch.
Look at GGQ, town attacked him for bad posts and supposedly sofdefending macpo.
Honestly, he too was unreadable, because he simply made no sense.
Someone apparently decided that he was scum, when it really wasn't that likely.
When you look for scum, you capitalize on changes in behaviour, or disruptiveness.
Not complete lack of logic.
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Don't argue about probabilities. I don't think L's and sandro's flip have any implications on BC/foolish 's alignment.
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BM, BM. Read my filter,the only reason I haven't voted yet is that I wanna hear Hiro's check N2. Then I'll vote, if there's nothing fishy about it, i'll vote BM, as I did D3.
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GG, apologies to the scum team, my computer broke down before I could vote.
Now I can pretty much gauge how much time is needed for a mafia game.
Hopefully I roll town next one, and don't get manslaughtered
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I'll be reading logs of past games while I sit my ban.Does great for the spirit.
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