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blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
January 20 2012 10:10 GMT
#2849
On January 20 2012 12:35 kingjames01 wrote:
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On January 20 2012 12:27 Scamp wrote:
kingjames01 I have a question for you.

Who do you think is mafia other than p4NDemik?


Well let's wait until BC has a chance to do his 'analysis' and then we can all decide together. Until then I am not going to respond anymore. Too many posts and we're all going to lose focus. If I am going to get mislynched I want to draw out a few of my suspects. I hope the mafia are wishing that they had killed me already.


According to the Day 3 tally flamewheel put up, BloodyC0bbler has voted for you. Do you have anything to say about this? I find it odd that you want to wait out for him to do more analysis of other targets. It looks like he already chose his two people unless this is to be changed. A few of your posts have also been a bit misleading at least to me.

Currently I'm leaning towards voting kingjames01 as my second target.
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blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
January 20 2012 10:33 GMT
#2852
What I mean by being mislead is what I will bold/red in your quotes below:

On January 14 2012 09:08 kingjames01 wrote:
Alright, I've been at work all day and it's taken me quite a while to catch up in the reading.

I'm going to reiterate, that I support the Bodyguards being made public. There was a point raised earlier which suggested that if this plan were carried through, the elected officials would be more vulnerable. I don't think that is the case. I have already stated my reasoning but here is the idea again.

If at least one of the Bodyguards is Town, then they player has to die before our Mayor and/or Sheriff are vulnerable.

If both Bodyguards die, everyone will be on guard and can then start to protect the elected officials.

If at most one dies, then the Mayor and/or Sheriff are still safe. Why? Because the mafia will have to trade at least one of their own to kill the Mayor and/or Sheriff.



Next, I think the Mass Mason Roleclaim is a terrible plan. The mafia know the roles of 10 players out of 50, namely, their own players. If all of the Masons claim, then they know the roles of more players in the game. If they can, they will target our powerful Blue roles, like Town Jack, Medic, Detective.

Why are you guys okay with helping them to narrow down their targets?


On January 16 2012 11:59 kingjames01 wrote:
Why I wasn't able to post in the game is between myself and the mods. The details do nothing to enhance the game and can be revealed by the mods during or after the game.

It is entirely within my right to scrutinze you. You put yourself out there when you decided to run for an elected position. In fact, that was one of your pillars on which you ran your candidacy.

I have never suggested or supported the lynching of your Bodyguards. As long there are precautions taken to give us the names of the Bodyguards in the event of your or BM's early demise, I am fine with it. However, since I respect your abilities to succeed as scum, I don't trust your intentions. I don't trust your actions. I don't trust your plans.

Mafia is a game of information. The control of information is crucial to both sides. In a game with so many posts, information can be lost or buried so easily. Instead, look at our actions and discuss what they accomplished.

I am very vocal about the Bodyguards being made public. What was the purpose? To ensure that we at least come out even if the Mayor and/or Sheriff were killed prematurely.

I am very vocal against the idea that Masons should mass claim. Why? To allow experienced Masons to work unhampered and be able to disseminate any information in the future without fear of being lynched upon surfacing.

I summarize a big-picture look at the major events of Day 1 in an effort to help re-focus the Town. I can't do it by myself but that is the best, pro-Town move that we can all do, other than to find a scum.

What have you done?

You ran a candidacy based on accountability. You re-iterated that all elected officials be watched carefully.

You pushed a calm Town into a frenzy with your Mason claim, (which can no longer be verified).

You initiated a mass Mason plan which effectively hamstrings any Masons who want to work in private.

You lynched a Town player with input based on some compromise that we can't see.

All I'm asking is that you be accountable to your election platform and to your actions. Stop trying to start a fight. Give us your PM logs.






On January 19 2012 22:33 kingjames01 wrote:
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On January 19 2012 18:30 Cwave wrote:
On January 13 2012 20:16 kingjames01 wrote:
After some consideration, I think it might be best for the Bodyguards to be made public. The Town will fall behind quickly if the mafia take both Bodyguard roles and the elected roles are killed without divulging the names of the Bodyguards.

Here's my analysis on this:
Case 1) 2 x Town Bodyguard
As long as one of the Bodyguards is alive, our elected officials are protected. They will not require protection before the Bodyguards are killed thus freeing a Medic to do something else. If a player dedicates themselves to protecting a Bodyguard until they die, then the elected officials are protected as well.

Case 2) 1 x Town Bodyguard
If the mafia kills the Town Bodyguard then the elected officials are vulnerable. However, if the elected officials are targetted we will have learned that the other Bodyguard is mafia. Not a good trade, but at least we don't come away with nothing.

Case 3) 0 x Town Bodyguard
Here, if either of the elected officials are killed before the Bodyguards are both lynched, we'll have confirmed mafia.



Went through your filter Kingjames and found this interesting.
Now that the election is long over, how do you feel about this post(which you posted prior to the election).
Still think BG's should claim?

On January 16 2012 11:59 kingjames01 wrote:
I am very vocal about the Bodyguards being made public. What was the purpose? To ensure that we at least come out even if the Mayor and/or Sheriff were killed prematurely.


Vocal meaning?



I never said THEY should claim. I supported the Mayor and/or the Sheriff releasing their names. The reasoning was laid out multiple times. However, I'm satisfied that the names are out there in one form or another.


When you release names of the bodyguards, aren't you indirectly forcing them to claim? That's why I felt I was being mislead by your posts.

Also, your case against p4NDemik is interesting. I haven't paid much attention to him but he has posted a lot recently. I'll read into your posts against him later today.

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blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
January 20 2012 21:32 GMT
#2990
On January 21 2012 05:43 Foolishness wrote:
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On January 21 2012 05:36 p4NDemik wrote:
This is so messed up you three have invested all day into BM and Kingjames. I've been like 95-99% sure on these lynches for hours upon hours and now you guys are randomly switching your vote to sandroba.

Whatever trust and goodwill you have been building up, it is quickly evaporating. You need to explain this.

Well I'm sorry that we don't want Incog to die when he has caught 3 mafia already. Do ya blame me?


If these guys were almost certain that Bill Murray was Mafia, how would Protactinium die to a bomb? That's not possible. This dramatic lynch change is disturbing... Still reading on from this quote/post.

I also understand that some of you think I am not town but I will say that my posts were based off my assessment of what I have read so far and I feel the way I've posted is probably not the best method to go about to try to get answers.
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blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
January 20 2012 22:56 GMT
#3037
On January 21 2012 07:07 Foolishness wrote:
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On January 21 2012 07:00 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
On January 21 2012 06:51 p4NDemik wrote:
Seriously these three are beyond reason right now. This is super fucking fishy.

Ok ok ok everyone hold your horses. We'd all like to hear a coherent case out of the triumvirate. However let's not let things get blown out of porportion. Yes, we'd all like them just to spell it out, yes we are frustrated at their collective inability to explain wtf is going on. However now is not the time for veiled attacks on their credibility. This is the kinda thing I called out opz (still scum btw) for. We can be frustrated but it's not necessary to start spreading doubt yet. If they can't get their shit together by the lynch and the lynch falls apart and one or two townies die then we can start calling for some heat. Until then let's give them an oppertunity to respond to our requests. I think we (and by we I once again mean the recently active people) have made it clear what we need to hear. Let's not go overboard and start heaving accusations till we've heard their responses.

I think we're all blowing this out of proportion and thinking too hard about this.

Why are we saying let's not kill BM? Well what if he is a hatter and telling the truth? We not only killed a townie but lost our best scumhunter as well.

Do I think it's likely BM is telling the truth? No, but it's a possibility. Is town in a desperate situation where we need to take chances? No

If BM is mafia, then mafia will not kill Incog cause they want to keep BM from getting lynched. That's okay cause Incog can stay around to find the rest of the mafia team. If the mafia do decide to kill Incog, then we can go straight ahead and kill BM, and I will not ask questions lol

This isn't supposed to be complicated. We don't need to be taking chances at this point so why bother?

Incog and BC have both been suspicious of sandroba, and sandroba has yet to contribute all game so we have decided to go with that. Do I think there are better lynches than sandroba? Yes. But that's okay because sandroba fits the theme. I'm not going to sit and argue for better targets, it's important that we are all on the same page. Incog and BC know who I think is mafia, and that will be the starting point for tomorrow's lynch.


What chances? If he was a mad hatter, why would he waste putting a bomb on someone who has and still is actively finding mafia. His bombs would be better used on these other mafia targets that you have all believed to be mafia.

To me he went from "oh I don't have much time and effort so whatevers" to "oh I'm gonna kill our scum hunter if you lynch me lols". WTF is this ?

I'm voting Bill Murray, this looks like bullshit to me.
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blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
January 21 2012 05:12 GMT
#3281
Whoops forgot about voting deadline, I thought I had until 22:00 for some reason =x . I really wanted to see if someone could convince me otherwise, anyways...

Good luck to everyone.
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