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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 19 2011 21:44 GMT
#641
On August 20 2011 06:41 Nisani201 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 06:10 Curu wrote:
So if you can't explain why Mafia KP went where it did, why the hell do you expect me to be able to?

Because you're scum.

wait this actually convinced me
dr Helvetica <3
TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 19 2011 21:59 GMT
#642
On August 17 2011 10:01 Varpulis wrote:
Slam500 is probably going to get modkilled. Look at his posts. all of the one's ingame are between 6-8 kst. He's probably not going to remember to check the thread before the deadline, because it's 11am in our timezone.

TAA's posts are good on a whole, imo. I don't think he's scum and i don't think we should lynch him.

I do like the case against DropBear though. His posts are almost 100% devoted to his claiming plan and discussing mechanics, and his only post regarding who he wants to lynch/who he thinks is scum is
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 02:14 DropBear wrote:
I want to cook the muffin man.

no explanation, nothing. This is exactly the kind of semi-abstain vote i was talking about in the beginning of the game. I think i missed this post before, didn't realize he had voted at the same time.

this is a slip, its a hidden gem we discover after he gets lynched one day, then we see this and go hurr durr we know the scum team now!
I was literally under 0 pressure at that point, why the fuck would a townie say that?

On August 17 2011 10:01 Varpulis wrote:
Slam500 is probably going to get modkilled. Look at his posts. all of the one's ingame are between 6-8 kst. He's probably not going to remember to check the thread before the deadline, because it's 11am in our timezone.

TAA's posts are good on a whole, imo. I don't think he's scum and i don't think we should lynch him.

I do like the case against DropBear though. His posts are almost 100% devoted to his claiming plan and discussing mechanics, and his only post regarding who he wants to lynch/who he thinks is scum is
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 02:14 DropBear wrote:
I want to cook the muffin man.

no explanation, nothing. This is exactly the kind of semi-abstain vote i was talking about in the beginning of the game. I think i missed this post before, didn't realize he had voted at the same time.

scum really wanted drop dead, after they tried to lynch him they just killed him. They wouldnt have killed him if the pressure/suspicion on him was real, ergo this pressure didnt mean anything to scum, ergo varp is scum.


On August 18 2011 01:19 Varpulis wrote:
why did it specify the scumteam he was from? Never seen that before.
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2011 23:33 Ciryandor wrote:
On August 14 2011 21:25 Sknowman wrote:
Since the traits are listed in black, are they 3rd party?

No, traits may be distributed to both sides.

On August 14 2011 21:01 DropBear wrote:
What is the Werewolf KP formula?


KPs have been PMed to any/all scum groups, total KP is not public knowledge.

multiple scumteams possibly?

Does anybody want to claim the kill on Navillus and explain why the fuck they killed him?

overly safe, its obvious there are multiple scum teams, he just didnt want to pull a nisani.


On August 20 2011 05:36 Varpulis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2011 11:52 Varpulis wrote:
Also, i've got a pretty solid town read on Jackal.



Is leader the trait that lets him substitute the leading vote-getter for somebody else?

yeah we know you can see the townies from the scummsies, whats interesting is that you started defending him after he was lynched and before he flipped. All the town cred none of the consequences best of 2 worlds huh?
dr Helvetica <3
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-19 22:06:53
August 19 2011 22:06 GMT
#643
Oh i got eviscerated, thats new.

+ Show Spoiler +
Still better than shotgun to the face.
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While taking a dump
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 19 2011 22:31 GMT
#644
Cool story TAA, what do you think about Nisani?
wat
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
August 20 2011 00:28 GMT
#645
I'm not convinced either way between Curu and Nisani's argument. I could see a situation where both are town because what Curu is saying makes sense. If he was scum, killing DropBear would pretty much get him killed. Most obvious fish ever. And Nisani may have just played it wrong as town (seriously, who claims DT in a PM that early in the game with no reason to believe in Curu being town?) and then drawn conclusions from that. But then again it wouldn't really surprise me if either one were scum.

I'm putting my vote on Trotske for now. He's been pretty quiet now that the focus has shifted off him and I'd like to put him under some pressure, especially since the questions asked from the following post haven't been answered, as the discussion was sidetracked by asking whether or not rivals could be non-reciprocal. He hasn't accounted for his random Rival claim in N0 yet, which I find very strange.

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On August 19 2011 05:33 OriginalName wrote:
I personally feel like lynching trotske.

Do you know why:

First he doesnt read who dies,
lurks like mad,
Then sends me this PM N0 before i have even posted.


Show nested quote +
Original Message From Trotske:
I am a Rival with Hiro Protagonist

Rivals: These players hate each other obsessively, and must do everything in their power to eliminate their rival. If a person's rival is alive at the end of the game, they lose, no matter which side wins, if their rival/s is killed, they will in turn win if alive at endgame, and their side wins. They will know the name of their rival/s from the start.

I'm telling you this because you said you would be inactive until after the day post. and I don't have any sort of scum lean on you.

If I die to a mafia hit look at his ass. I have to this information to Sevryn also. in the event he posts after I die and it doesn't say anything about hiro look at him as mafia also.


He claims to me then Contradicts with this post

What do you guys think of Dropbear
I feel like his plan and the whole rival thing still hasn't been addressed, The whole part about rivals claims seems like a great way for scum to have people to frame. kill someones rival they look like scum so they get lynched aka almost getting a free KP and wasting a lynch.

I just dont know what to think of this anymore. We need to pressure him, we need him to be here and contribute.

##Vote Trotske



##Vote Trotske
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
August 20 2011 01:26 GMT
#646
On August 20 2011 06:59 TheAwesomeAll wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 10:01 Varpulis wrote:
Slam500 is probably going to get modkilled. Look at his posts. all of the one's ingame are between 6-8 kst. He's probably not going to remember to check the thread before the deadline, because it's 11am in our timezone.

TAA's posts are good on a whole, imo. I don't think he's scum and i don't think we should lynch him.

I do like the case against DropBear though. His posts are almost 100% devoted to his claiming plan and discussing mechanics, and his only post regarding who he wants to lynch/who he thinks is scum is
On August 17 2011 02:14 DropBear wrote:
I want to cook the muffin man.

no explanation, nothing. This is exactly the kind of semi-abstain vote i was talking about in the beginning of the game. I think i missed this post before, didn't realize he had voted at the same time.

this is a slip, its a hidden gem we discover after he gets lynched one day, then we see this and go hurr durr we know the scum team now!
I was literally under 0 pressure at that point, why the fuck would a townie say that?

If i remember correctly, Nisani wanted to lynch you day 1. That was my response to that. How the hell is it a scumslip?
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2011 10:01 Varpulis wrote:
Slam500 is probably going to get modkilled. Look at his posts. all of the one's ingame are between 6-8 kst. He's probably not going to remember to check the thread before the deadline, because it's 11am in our timezone.

TAA's posts are good on a whole, imo. I don't think he's scum and i don't think we should lynch him.

I do like the case against DropBear though. His posts are almost 100% devoted to his claiming plan and discussing mechanics, and his only post regarding who he wants to lynch/who he thinks is scum is
On August 17 2011 02:14 DropBear wrote:
I want to cook the muffin man.

no explanation, nothing. This is exactly the kind of semi-abstain vote i was talking about in the beginning of the game. I think i missed this post before, didn't realize he had voted at the same time.

scum really wanted drop dead, after they tried to lynch him they just killed him. They wouldnt have killed him if the pressure/suspicion on him was real, ergo this pressure didnt mean anything to scum, ergo varp is scum.
ergo i don't understand the connection, sorry

Show nested quote +
On August 18 2011 01:19 Varpulis wrote:
why did it specify the scumteam he was from? Never seen that before.
On August 14 2011 23:33 Ciryandor wrote:
On August 14 2011 21:25 Sknowman wrote:
Since the traits are listed in black, are they 3rd party?

No, traits may be distributed to both sides.

On August 14 2011 21:01 DropBear wrote:
What is the Werewolf KP formula?


KPs have been PMed to any/all scum groups, total KP is not public knowledge.

multiple scumteams possibly?

Does anybody want to claim the kill on Navillus and explain why the fuck they killed him?

overly safe, its obvious there are multiple scum teams, he just didnt want to pull a nisani.
I drew a conclusion from evidence. Big difference between that and what nisani did.

Show nested quote +
On August 20 2011 05:36 Varpulis wrote:
On August 19 2011 11:52 Varpulis wrote:
Also, i've got a pretty solid town read on Jackal.



Is leader the trait that lets him substitute the leading vote-getter for somebody else?

yeah we know you can see the townies from the scummsies, whats interesting is that you started defending him after he was lynched and before he flipped. All the town cred none of the consequences best of 2 worlds huh?
at least 4 people voted for jackal after i made the initial comment, which is here. Your point is null.


My responses in red.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Sknowman
Profile Joined August 2011
55 Posts
August 20 2011 07:05 GMT
#647
I feel honored that scum killed me with such good players.

Good luck town. KILL THEM ALL.
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
August 20 2011 07:41 GMT
#648
Nisani is scum. like 100% scum.

detailed analysis to come in the morning. I just got home from rockclimbing for the last 12 hours, and Im dead tired. see you in the morning.
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 20 2011 15:47 GMT
#649
Why the hell is this thread yellow.

Hiro, not that I need convincing, but you promised so come deliver.
wat
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
August 20 2011 17:29 GMT
#650
##vote Nisani201

The guy you tried to get lynched flipped town. If he didn't kill Dropbear, who did? could it have been the "detective" that he CLAIMED to?

Scum killed him outright because they didn't realize that he claimed to people other than Nisani, i'll bet. Add in a scumslip and bob's your uncle.

I'd be interested to see that analysis hiro.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
August 20 2011 18:00 GMT
#651
Heh, if I die and flip Banling, will you guys kill Curu?
Enjoy your day.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 20 2011 18:03 GMT
#652
Heh, can you give a good reason besides a stupid trap that I saw coming? Your only arguments have been "nah you're scum" when I've explained the situation to you.

But you won't flip Town.
wat
hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
August 20 2011 18:46 GMT
#653
Ok, now that I am awake and functional, I am not so sure about Nisani being scum. Alot of my scumdar relies on how fellow sum interact with each other. Initially, I thought that Curu was 100% town based on the fact that it would be utterly stupid to start a wagon on your teammate day 1. But if there is multiple scum teams, which I think there is, then Curu might not have known he was lynching scum

I say there is a 80% chance that one of Curu/Nisani are scum. The real Greek tragedy would be if they are both town, witch might be possible :/

so lets back up a bit, cuz I want some questions answered.

Curu, Why where you so sure that Jackal was scum?

also, during day 1 there was a group of people talking about tying the lynch with a lurker. heres my PMs with Jackal:

He and ON both give me the willies.

Original Message From hiro protagonist:
I was approached by TAA. My thought is that Dropbear could have claimed to anyone in that list. I have suspisions about TAA. whats your thoughts on him?

Hide nested quote -
Original Message From Jackal58:
Sknowman. Varpulis, Dropbear, The AwesomeAll and of course Kurumi. It was Kurumi's idea. He approached me with it first.

Original Message From hiro protagonist:
Just a question, you had mentioned that Dropbear had talked to you about tieing the vote up. Did you talk to anyone else about that?


when I asked Curu about this, he said he was not approached.

Nope, nobody that wanted to push lurkers.

Jackal is 99% scum but he's acting like a lightning rod. I think he has a Short Fuse or Rabid Fanboy trait.

Original Message From hiro protagonist:
so, who do you think would be the best lynch tonight? Also where you contacted by anyone about trying to tie the lynch with a lurker? thanks


does anyone else notice that alot of people in that list from Jackal are dead? Someone in there is killing PM buddys to cover there tracks. It is also possible that DropBear claimed to someone in that group. and out of everyone in there, I am most suspicious of TheAwesomeAll

long story short, I cant make up my mind about Curu or Nisani yet. I think TAA is scum.

##Vote: TheAwesomeAll
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
Trotske
Profile Joined August 2010
410 Posts
August 20 2011 19:34 GMT
#654
On August 20 2011 09:28 snotboogie wrote:
I'm not convinced either way between Curu and Nisani's argument. I could see a situation where both are town because what Curu is saying makes sense. If he was scum, killing DropBear would pretty much get him killed. Most obvious fish ever. And Nisani may have just played it wrong as town (seriously, who claims DT in a PM that early in the game with no reason to believe in Curu being town?) and then drawn conclusions from that. But then again it wouldn't really surprise me if either one were scum.

I'm putting my vote on Trotske for now. He's been pretty quiet now that the focus has shifted off him and I'd like to put him under some pressure, especially since the questions asked from the following post haven't been answered, as the discussion was sidetracked by asking whether or not rivals could be non-reciprocal. He hasn't accounted for his random Rival claim in N0 yet, which I find very strange.

+ Show Spoiler +
On August 19 2011 05:33 OriginalName wrote:
I personally feel like lynching trotske.

Do you know why:

First he doesnt read who dies,
lurks like mad,
Then sends me this PM N0 before i have even posted.


Show nested quote +
Original Message From Trotske:
I am a Rival with Hiro Protagonist

Rivals: These players hate each other obsessively, and must do everything in their power to eliminate their rival. If a person's rival is alive at the end of the game, they lose, no matter which side wins, if their rival/s is killed, they will in turn win if alive at endgame, and their side wins. They will know the name of their rival/s from the start.

I'm telling you this because you said you would be inactive until after the day post. and I don't have any sort of scum lean on you.

If I die to a mafia hit look at his ass. I have to this information to Sevryn also. in the event he posts after I die and it doesn't say anything about hiro look at him as mafia also.


He claims to me then Contradicts with this post

What do you guys think of Dropbear
I feel like his plan and the whole rival thing still hasn't been addressed, The whole part about rivals claims seems like a great way for scum to have people to frame. kill someones rival they look like scum so they get lynched aka almost getting a free KP and wasting a lynch.

I just dont know what to think of this anymore. We need to pressure him, we need him to be here and contribute.

##Vote Trotske



##Vote Trotske


first of all I went to bed.

Second if you had read my posts you wouldn't be asking why I claimed n0.
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
August 20 2011 19:36 GMT
#655
hiro, where did TAA come from?
Enjoy your day.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
August 20 2011 19:42 GMT
#656
DropBear hasn't claimed to me.
Today I want to enforce the double lynch. I think we should get rid of slam500 together with our lynch candidate.
Why slam500? His actions on first day and ABSENCE
He did not post ANYTHING in 5 "Korean" days. His last post was August 16th. Today is August 21th.
We don't have modkills so we need to implement them themselves. I want Curu,Nisani and snotboogie to vote on slam500. Forumite, me, hiro protagonist and taa will vote on the lynch candidate. Is that ok? We need to coordinate the votes so we don't get trolled/tricked.
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hiro protagonist
Profile Joined January 2009
1294 Posts
August 20 2011 20:04 GMT
#657
Kurumi, what do you think of TAA?

Nisani, Its a gut feeling, but its mostly about how his post interact with the rest of the thread. He was very much acting like a scumhunter until GreMist became the lynch target. sense then he has mostly been mute, other than to ask you what your check came back as. Just now he comes back and FoS's Varp. Varps responses are just what I see as well.

what do you think about TAA?
"I guess if you climb enough off-widths, one of these days, your gonna get your knee stuck and shit your pants. Its just an odds thing really" -Jason Kruk
TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 20 2011 20:07 GMT
#658
lol hiro i was checking if you were rival with trotske, i gave him a list of lurkers and said i wanted to tie a lynch with one. One of the lurkers was trotske, he didnt pick him.
dr Helvetica <3
TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 20 2011 20:08 GMT
#659
the "he" in this story is hiro ofc
dr Helvetica <3
TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 20 2011 20:12 GMT
#660
Original Message From TheAwesomeAll:
i think we should tie the lynch with a lurker, there are simply too many of them atm. Before posting in the thread i want to discuss it with you and some other people that seem likely town to me. these people are lurking hardcore

12. Sevryn

9. Da-Muffinman

15. DroneAllDay

4. Trotske

13. sinani206 *not nisani

What do you think? ALso who to lynch first? sinani seems relatively scummy to me since he isnt active. Da muffinman on the other hand seems relatively town to me since he got called out and is prolly afk. Also if DB is scum muffin prolly isnt.
the main point is that we just lynch one of these guys, ur in?

im an excellent writer, hiro fell fore it but it turns out he isnt rival with trotske. Since not a lot of people knew about this it was hardly relevant.
Original Message From hiro protagonist:
ok I am down for this, If you can work out the logistics and PM me I could switch votes if need be. let me know. also, snotboogie would be a good lurker lynch as well.

dr Helvetica <3
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