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Scamp
United States1086 Posts
Pretty much everything I wanted to talk about is now moot. I'm going to just take a break and put my head back together. I would like to say that it's nice to get a scum but I can't help but think this is all a giant distraction from something. Qatol did something similar in the first game I played. I'm glad this hasn't curbed discussion like in that game. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9244 Posts
On August 20 2011 09:01 Scamp wrote: Good lord, what the hell happened while I was away? Pretty much everything I wanted to talk about is now moot. Mind sharing what you were thinking, even if it might not apply anymore? | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
On August 20 2011 08:23 youngminii wrote: But that's not fair to the nature of the game. What if someone else has a post restriction that forces them to do stuff (or ignore stuff) making them look scummy? It's not like you're the only one that gets in a bind. Also, role claiming and personality claiming aren't actually against the rules, they're just not encouraged. Also, if you are going to post a fucking 10 page PM/irc log, at least write a fucking tl;dr or highlight the relevant bits. I went through so much bullshit to get information that could basically be condensed into two lines. The Palmar PMs are enlightening, that's all I'm going to say. Also VE, why did you go around talking in PMs acting as if you had the power to initiate PMs and also try and fakeclaim medic? No sane person would actually believe that. some people are already playing against the nature of their personality. Also roleclaiming is heavily frowned upon (see OP) to the point bad things could happen. You can say its not fair to the nature of the game, but it becomes near impossible to do anything, and I mean anything when some of the main reasons I am being suspect are due to role restrictions. It sucks, however, as others are going unpunished for massive trolling, not playing their personality properly, etc.... I see no reason why me giving insight on how to let me play is a bad thing. Is it "bad form" yes, but we have already seen massive amounts of that. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
which is why i'm confused as to why nothing's been done this will be my last post on this (for now) because i feel it's filling up the thread with this irrelevant talk, but still i'm beginning to entertain the idea that incog/ver's silence is itself an acknowledgement that your post restriction claim was fake | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7875 Posts
On August 20 2011 10:07 youngminii wrote: it's not bad form, incog specifically said not to do it, hence it being against the rules which is why i'm confused as to why nothing's been done this will be my last post on this (for now) because i feel it's filling up the thread with this irrelevant talk, but still i'm beginning to entertain the idea that incog/ver's silence is itself an acknowledgement that your post restriction claim was fake You can think it all you want, but after the game ends and I am right you will cry about being wrong.....again. Don't call someone out to play and contribute then bash them for the only way to specifically do so. If you want I can go back to roleplaying my personality and following all restrictions to a T and then once again the town rages at how I'm not contributing. Take your pick. | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
I apologize for my inactivity, though this is just simply not a period where I have much free time. Still though, here's something that should make the coming days more interesting. I lied when I said I had something for Day 3--that was simply me trying to draw a hit. Well, it worked. I was shot last night and lost my extra life. But now I have additional powers to make up for my new-found vulnerability. I believe Palmar is scum, but I don't think sandroba is scum with him. Look at the earlier part of the day, where Palmar and sandroba are being linked together. Comrade Palmar decides to try to link himself together with sandroba but that doesn't work--so instead he's just trolling now. I don't have time to look more carefully into it, but it definitely seems at this point that Mafia have decided to bus him and planned on it early, considering that there are still 24 hours left to go. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
On August 20 2011 10:11 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You can think it all you want, but after the game ends and I am right you will cry about being wrong.....again. Don't call someone out to play and contribute then bash them for the only way to specifically do so. If you want I can go back to roleplaying my personality and following all restrictions to a T and then once again the town rages at how I'm not contributing. Take your pick. you really think i care about whether i'm right about you being scum or not? i assure you, i sleep soundly at night and tears do not escape and where the fuck do you get the abrasiveness to accuse me of calling you out, back the fuck up before making baseless assumptions also lol nice ultimatum, especially considering i was the one who suggested that people shouldn't play according to their personality if it's anti-town, i'm trying to pick up on a possible slip, i've never said anything remotely close to your contributions this game your post was absolutely retarded and needlessly condescending, i can think of very few reasons why a player would fill their post with blatant holes and assumptions as you did | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
Anyway guys, I'm heading out for a bit. | ||
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
And don't worry about whether BC broke the rules. That's for Incognito and Ver to worry about. Just play the game and let the hosts deal with it, please. | ||
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On August 20 2011 10:11 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You can think it all you want, but after the game ends and I am right you will cry about being wrong.....again. Don't call someone out to play and contribute then bash them for the only way to specifically do so. If you want I can go back to roleplaying my personality and following all restrictions to a T and then once again the town rages at how I'm not contributing. Take your pick. Lol. Pot calling the kettle black. | ||
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
My warning went for you too.... | ||
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Incognito
United States2071 Posts
Stop the personal insults its completely inappropriate and unnecessary. That goes for everyone. BloodyC0bbler the Fishball (traitor) has been modkilled. Knowingly and willingly breaking the rules then defending it in the thread is unacceptable. Also, the next person who mentions post restrictions will be modkilled. | ||
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Scamp
United States1086 Posts
On August 20 2011 09:32 kitaman27 wrote: Mind sharing what you were thinking, even if it might not apply anymore? I totally mind. Stuff that isn't relevant is just distracting. Though I was exaggerating when I said everything was moot. Just most of it. And now my opinion of BC is moot too, so yeah. I'll post some things I remember now, and the rest when I sober up tomorrow. I really don't get what Kenpachi is doing and I need to do more research on personalities because of it. Other than the detective claim he's just sort of there. I don't know why he's not sharing info, though. Also I'm pretty sure he's not RoL, at least based on the TL Mafia quiz thread. Wait, didn't he already say he was Pandain? Perhaps a name claim is in order from him. redFF is pretty town in my book. I think he's been pretty annoying but a double vote on Bum has pretty much put all doubt aside for me. That'd be like the biggest bus ever. As the day began it seemed that Youngminii was just going to go after me at an unhealthy degree, but now he's talking about other people some, at last. It's good to see him take off the blinders some. I'm still trying to wrap my head around why Palmar just gave up and then started trolling the thread like he's distracting from something. I don't recall any clues from hosts for a priest or some kind of zombie. Maybe someone on the scum team has some kind of Radfield-like ability and needs to survive a certain amount of time to get powerful. Did anyone have serious heat at the start of the day other than me? BC perhaps? I don't know what to make of him flipping black in the modkill. Syllogism? This is a bad time to think. I'm going to sleep. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
I gave up to communicate with our traitor to find out he's been modkilled. shit sucks. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
On August 20 2011 17:30 Palmar wrote: what the fuck. I gave up to communicate with our traitor to find out he's been modkilled. shit sucks. If it makes you feel better, you had no ground to stand on due to the intricacies of the claim. If you hadn't just lost a player, if he was a tracker, or you claimed a blue role you might of had SOME ground to stand on, but you were running in quicksand. | ||
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Palmar
Iceland22632 Posts
Which one do you think is better for a town to achieve? A small pm circle formed around a confirmed innocent, or a healthy thread with no trolling/spamming and good atmosphere in general? | ||
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Misder
United States1557 Posts
And since no one brought it up yet, there was 4 hits yesterday if what flamewheel said is true. Also, thread doesn't seem like its moving as fast as it has been after Palmar gave up, which seems to suggest that anyone that was trying to move the thread on either days and stopped may be scummy. No idea who that would entail, but my mind is thinking Jackal58. @Scamp [spoiler] On August 20 2011 17:29 Scamp wrote: [spoiler]I totally mind. Stuff that isn't relevant is just distracting. Though I was exaggerating when I said everything was moot. Just most of it. And now my opinion of BC is moot too, so yeah. I'll post some things I remember now, and the rest when I sober up tomorrow. I really don't get what Kenpachi is doing and I need to do more research on personalities because of it. Other than the detective claim he's just sort of there. I don't know why he's not sharing info, though. Also I'm pretty sure he's not RoL, at least based on the TL Mafia quiz thread. Wait, didn't he already say he was Pandain? Perhaps a name claim is in order from him. redFF is pretty town in my book. I think he's been pretty annoying but a double vote on Bum has pretty much put all doubt aside for me. That'd be like the biggest bus ever. As the day began it seemed that Youngminii was just going to go after me at an unhealthy degree, but now he's talking about other people some, at last. It's good to see him take off the blinders some. I'm still trying to wrap my head around why Palmar just gave up and then started trolling the thread like he's distracting from something. I don't recall any clues from hosts for a priest or some kind of zombie. Maybe someone on the scum team has some kind of Radfield-like ability and needs to survive a certain amount of time to get powerful. Did anyone have serious heat at the start of the day other than me? BC perhaps? I don't know what to make of him flipping black in the modkill. Syllogism? This is a bad time to think. I'm going to sleep. What do you think Kenpachi is doing? And do you think it is scummy? (as in, personalities really shouldn't matter) Well, considering Palmar already bussed bum, it would make since that at least some of the other mafia also bussed with him. As in attacking BC? I... guess? Though it was more of a WTF Y NO MODKILL Whats with "Syllogism?" I'm just confused to that question. I was going to critique the Palmar stuff, but then I realized what Palmar said in thread is probably not the entire truth/there might be another motive. However, I think it is pretty useless speculating. | ||
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tnkted
United States1359 Posts
Ghrur Analysis Fact 1: Ghrur has been buddying WHILE he accuses me of buddying. Nobody has bothered accusing him of buddying. On August 18 2011 12:01 ghrur wrote: Oh Curu, that makes me remember, tnkted said our town atmosphere was lively too. :D What scum. On August 18 2011 02:45 ghrur wrote: Yeah RoL, where did you're "actually contributing" go? Fact 2: D1, Rather than shoot somebody he thought was mafia (me) he decided to shoot a nearly confirmed townie. Then he claimed that he did it because Kurumi was spamming. And thats......... basically all I could find that was scummy in his behavior. Conclusion: Ghrur is town. Sorry for doubting you, buddy. Overall Ghrur's play seems to be extremely aggressive; he's an analytic redFF1. However, much of his reasoning is faulty; he's spending time thinking about his lynches but doesn't ever find conclusive evidence. Instead, he's applying pressure and hoping his target slips up during his defence. It's an interesting strategy, one that I've seen DrH pull off a few times. DrH tends to get lynched though, so we should probably avoid lynching ghrur even if his behavior feels scummy. Some advice: Your style of posting is very obnoxious to be accused with, which is good because it encourages people to post and respond, but it also builds up a bad atmosphere for town. What happens when you accuse somebody who is town, tunnel them for days, and then get them lynched? You've wasted days of tunnelling that could have been spent on scum if you'd only mentally put that person back into the 'ok, that was a legit defense'. That's a tough mental maneuver to do; part of being good at it is understanding when somebody has a legit defence. Generally you're looking for defensiveness, topic changing, buddying, and sometimes, bandwagoning. Also look for wishy washy defenses that rely on you giving them benefit of the doubt. Now I have a big ol- pounding headache (anyone else from the st. paul area? you know the wild onion? Yeah) and I'm going to go shower and play some mindless video game for a few hours (cortex command anyone? :D). I don't want to think right now. Later, when I'm feeling less hungover, I want to post an analysis of youngmini and one of curu (who, btw i think is town, but it's good to check these things). | ||
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