TL Mafia XLIII - Page 43

On August 02 2011 09:20 chaos13 wrote:
DrH has the right idea here. Yes, confirmed townies are excellent. However, mafia can easily fake claim a role like medic or vig, and then we would need to waste our DT checks in order to confirm those claims. Not only that, but we have no idea who the day vig actually is. If it's in the hands of a weaker player, that could lead to complete and utter disaster. Having one player coordinate all the actions of the blues is never a good thing. There is far too much room for error in such a situation, especially since mafia are able to PM and influence the game as well. Ultimately, however, it is up to the individuals with the roles to decide what to do. Discussion about this is very good, but I would rather not waste all day with it. Just something to keep in mind if we're still arguing about it in 24 hours.

Vigis, because there are probably a lot of you in here: Do not shoot unless it is at confirmed scum. If you feel you must shoot anyway, take out lurkers and liars. This sort of common sense is all too often ignored, and results in dead town. Even take DT claims with a grain of salt. If analysis points to a player being town when a claimed check has shown red, proceed with caution. It could be a miller or a scum's fake claim in order to waste a vig shot, especially if the claimed DT player has been under suspicion.

On August 08 2011 05:36 Barundar wrote:
Lulz. Can we lynch YM?

On August 08 2011 12:07 chaos13 wrote:
wtf is going on here.

So we unexpectedly have majority lynch and a shortened phase and Munk flipped vet? Well then we really need to start looking at those other vet claims

On August 08 2011 08:42 redFF wrote:
Yup so here's a question. If Munk-e was scum for claiming vet and it was unreasonable there were 5 vets when munk-e was alive. How come now hes dead and flipped vet are we not looking at the other claimed vets. And before you say they counterclaimed jeejee, no they didnt. Jeejee claimed medic, not vet. So from a mafia perspective claiming vet/medic would have been fine. I'd like to ask that we dont majority lynch again, as it leaves us with very little vote discussion. This game is not as won as some of you may think.

On August 08 2011 16:08 Barundar wrote:

Let's have a look:

DrH: Pushed varp then godfather. Claimed hit last night.
BC: Voted for godfather day 1. Claims roleblock last night.
Mig: Lead the varp lynch. Claims hit night 1.
Syllogism: Has clearly been working closely with Mig day 1. Has been pushing for both Varp and JeeJee. I trust Mig's judgement on this one.

How is any of them not confirmed?

Then we have lucid claiming. He is by no means confirmed, but the timing of his claim makes no sense from a scum perspective. If he just learned about Munk-E being vet, claiming vet himself would be the stupidest thing to do. It's way more likely that he just saw a problem with the logic that let to the Munk-E lynch, aka: 5 vets is stupid, lynch liar lol.

Anyway mafia can kill anyone they want tonight with roleblock + kp combo. Mig I hope you give all information to one of the other confirmed towns.

YM+chaos13 still seems by far the most likely scum combo.