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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 28 2011 18:36 GMT
#1607
heist, if we have a double lynch can we off both chaos and Foolishness today?

Nisani can wait.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 28 2011 18:46 GMT
#1608
Also, Varpulis why'd you disappear when I asked you if you'd prefer chaos or Foolishness?
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 29 2011 14:34 GMT
#1683
heist, if you're a Day Vig, please flip Nisani for me now. It'll confirm something for me.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 29 2011 14:53 GMT
#1684
Actually anyone that can flip Nisani, please do it now. I don't think anyone could say he isn't a good Vig target anyways.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 29 2011 15:57 GMT
#1686
So Foolishness is apparently a really good player right.

His day 1 contribution consisted of randomly offered lynch targets with no desire to push or analyze any of them. Two of these have flipped Town already:

On July 26 2011 20:34 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On (Z)July 26 2011 20:16 bumatlarge wrote:
I haven't read a word, someone update me? I'll try to read through this later today.

Wiggles is a serial Killer, Lanaia and RedFF are good lynches but are sadly not going to get lynched. People are incapable of stepping into another persons' shoes (particularly BC's shoes) and seeing things from a different perspective. This leads to foolproof logic arguments of "you don't agree with me? you must be mafia!" which reminds me that if I don't believe in another persons' religion I'm automatically going to hell.


If he was actively Pro Town and those were his reads, he would be pushing for one of them to be lynched instead of appearing to contribute without actually contributing.

On July 25 2011 15:14 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 15:02 Curu wrote:
Dec stated people who failed to create roles were going to be modkilled though. And, judging from my own role, people who made up roles in five minutes are not all that uncommon .

I don't see what Wiggles's issue is, can you clarify that for me Wiggles? What I said about the Hallows makes sense IMO since pure randomization really defeats the purpose of having the Hallows game sine you'd ensure they'd never be given away if they randomized into the hands of Mafia or malicious 3rd Party.

Win conditions are surely not made up by the players themselves so I don't think dec would have put in an extra win condition for Voldy then made it a redundant one.

@Foolishness
It's already generating discussion. What behavior do we have to go off of atm?

@Tackster
I didn't say a thing about Jackal's claim being well founded. Can you point out to me where I ever said Jackal's claim is legit and I don't want to lynch him? All I said was I think he's 3rd Party rather than Mafia but that makes a good lynch too.

And did you even bother to read OriginalName's role PM? He chooses people to Mason that changes each day, he doesn't start the game Masoned with a set someone.

I don't see anyone making any arguments against Jackal based on his behavior thus far. I read through his posts and frankly there's nothing indicating that he needs to hang from the noose. I am not convinced that a mafia would roleclaim straight up on day 1, that's just an lol newbie move. Of course his responses tomorrow will greatly help us, but lynching him off of flavor text is like lynching off of day 1 clues. It never works, and inactives sit and mafia twiddle their thumbs.

I decided to (T)Start counting the number of posts where kitaman asks a question. I gave up because I was starting to run out of fingers. It would be nice to see him make a post longer than 2 lines.


Soft defense of Jackal.

He didn't think BC was a good lynch but did nothing to try to stop the wagon. Taking a stand to save one of the more experienced and renowned players is the natural reaction from a Pro Town player that thinks BC is Town, but he was content to stay on the sidelines and post random stuff. Also his vote conveniently fell on a player that had no other votes rather than Jackal; he was content with the mislynch but didn't want to be a part of it, and also didn't want to vote Jackal in case the wagon managed to derail.

Since then his contribution has consisted of nothing but walls of text defending himself and a FoS/vote onto Nisani. Nisani is the EASIEST target to attack in the world as either Town OR Mafia, and I can't believe Foolishness's contribution is a throwaway analysis/vote like that.

Now sandroba, the information I said I could give: I was the Role Thief. I could steal someone's role, and I stole Foolishness's. His post restriction is complete and utter BS, there was no restriction. What's the motivation behind it? Likely so he could draw out his role creator to snipe him. That or derail the Town into discussing it. Either way it's not real. He doesn't have a history of purposeful trolling like Kurumi does.

He also has not publicly claimed his role was stolen and I have no idea why a Town player would withhold that information. But I can see a reason Mafia would: he's the Godfather.

My theory is that he made his role description the same as the power he originally held WITH the added caveat of a post restriction and a Townie alignment. But now he can't claim his power was stolen, because any role check on him would reveal that he still had his old role and out him as the Godfather.

One final bit of evidence, Mafia clearly tried to snipe active/vet players last night. Wiggles, Mig, and likely Amber (based on Wiggles's role and him being double stacked) were the hits last night. redFF was Lanaia's Vig shot. Why not Foolishness? If what I've heard is correct, he's senior to all of them.

##Unvote
##Vote: Foolishness
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 29 2011 16:10 GMT
#1689
On July 30 2011 01:02 sandroba wrote:
Afaik, godfather just changes your aligment to town, not your actual role. An easier explanation is that foolishness' role creator is also mafia.


This is what I thought too, but in TL Mafia apparently you can choose what you want to appear as as Godfather. Looking through a few old games, you pick what role you want to appear as as Godfather or you default to Vanilla Townie.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 29 2011 16:14 GMT
#1692
Lynching Nisani shows nothing since he always appears as the scummiest player in the game as either Town OR Mafia. I agree with him being Vig'd.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 29 2011 16:20 GMT
#1695
Unless you think I'm insanely gambiting scum trying to get Foolishness mislynched, I have no reason to lie about my original role as Role Thief.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 29 2011 19:24 GMT
#1730
Palmar is correct, Foolishness has become the Role Thief.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 29 2011 19:26 GMT
#1731
And bum, Foolishness will not survive a lynch unless someone has a Pardoner role.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 29 2011 19:32 GMT
#1734
This is the only part of it that doesn't make sense to me:

Nisani's voting patterns. Clearly he doesn't give a fuck who he votes for, jumping around from wagon to wagon any time an easy one forms.

However, he never touched Jackal's wagon. I am leaning very far towards him being scum, but he also voted Foolishness and I don't think Nisani would ever bus a teammate.

My original theory was that it was either chaos and Nisani (both look scummy as hell) or Foolishness. But Foolishness looks very Anti Town too, though if my Godfather theory is incorrect he may just be a 3rd Party.

That's why I want Nisani flipped ASAP.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 29 2011 21:06 GMT
#1748
Someone shot Foolishness and got Nisani lynched. Hm.

Mafia bussed their own to get a Town lynched?
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 29 2011 21:11 GMT
#1755
Well, Foolishness for Nisani, not so bad.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 29 2011 21:13 GMT
#1758
LMAO, smart Kurumi.

So how many fucking Day Vigs does the Mafia have? Holy hell.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 29 2011 21:14 GMT
#1761
On July 30 2011 06:13 sandroba wrote:
K heist why the fuck did you kill foolishness so close to the dead line?


Heist made Foolishness his puppet, Mafia day hit heist, Foolishness died in his place.

Mafia has at least 2 Day Vigs. Hopefully they're one-shot.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 29 2011 21:15 GMT
#1764
Oh, nevermind then. Huh. Why claim you hadn't killed him then?
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 29 2011 21:17 GMT
#1768
Yes, we could've lynched DropBear or someone if you had flipped Foolishness sooner.

Oh well.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 29 2011 21:23 GMT
#1773
Well if you just wanna go by vote patterns, DropBear's your next Mafia.

Should analyze his posts though.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 29 2011 21:25 GMT
#1775
Palmar, it's impossible that heist chose his Godfather to be his puppet if he was Mafia. So he's Town or 3rd, probably Town.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 29 2011 21:54 GMT
#1789
He knew Foolishness became the Role Thief, but I think that's a fair assumption to make. If my power had made my target into a Vanilla Townie that's just rageworthy.
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