EPTI spent all of that game defending myself from Pyrrhuloxia who accused me just like you are. No I wasn't mafia.
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I spent all of that game defending myself from Pyrrhuloxia who accused me just like you are. No I wasn't mafia. | ||
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On July 29 2011 04:34 sandroba wrote: How's that relevant to the current game? I'm not about to read a 100 pages. You signed up for this game to play to your win conditions. As of now you are not trying to win town the game, so you must be scum. If you have limited time, you should have spent it scum hunting if you were town, since you are clearly reading the thread. Because you're making similar accusations as he was; I spent the entire time defending myself and I was blue. You're clearly  Always here to spam away my posts with "lol ur wrong" so reading 100 pages should be nothing to you. | ||
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On July 29 2011 04:33 heist wrote: As far as I'm concerned, it's meaningless comparing it to the first vote. The timing of your post would be a lot more convincing if you posted it before ON's flip. After his flip, YM, redFF, amber, and myself were all prepared to lynch/kill Jackal. This is all before your post defending him. A bunch of his arguments are that I diverted discussion away from Jackal lynched. That's not true. I said why I thought he was suspicious, then others ran around voting for him without providing just reason besides "foolishness is right". Hunting inactives is what I do best. Go read my past games I'll even find them for you if you desire. | ||
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On July 29 2011 04:48 heist wrote: You NEVER said he was suspicious. In fact, you did the complete opposite. You defended him saying mafia would never role claim day 1. I'm not even comprehending how you can say everyone voted for him because of you. err sorry I was referring to kitaman there. sandroba says I diverted attention away from Jackal by accusing kitaman. I posted in the thread why I thought kitaman was suspicious (before Jackal was even an issue), then others started using what I said and voted for him. And yes I defended Jackal because I didn't think a MaFia would roleclaim like that without accusing ON. I'm pretty sure I already explained this in a past post but I can clarify if you need. | ||
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As a little back story, I was a veteran and took a hit night 1. Naturally I claimed in the thread about taking a hit (there was a missing KP that night). Pyrrhuloxia was convinced that I was the mafia GF and I purposely did not use a hit so that I could make this claim. Here are some of the posts he makes (I cannot quote it directly because the thread is locked): http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=139517¤tpage=82#1636 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=139517¤tpage=89#1772 http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=139517¤tpage=96#1919 Likewise here is a post I made to defend myself: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=139517¤tpage=92#1825 I'm trying to find more but there's ZerO filter button.That's how it's relevant. You are making similar arguments, and after I take time to respond you still post "nope you're mafia, you're blending in". Now shut up and stop wasting this town's time. | ||
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On June 29 2011 10:33 Nisani201 wrote: This trend of shooting down spammy players is insanely stupid; it's what lost the town in XVII. Cthasza wrote a fantastic analysis on Drazerk, and if he's right about it then there shouldn't be a reason to lynch him. I'm voting for Draserk because he is full of contradictions and slip-ups, NOT because of spam. That is all. On June 29 2011 07:59 Nisani201 wrote: I agree. I just looked through Syllogism's posts. While they may not necessarily all of opinions in them, only two of them seem somewhat pointless, which isn't enough to warrant a lynch. Cthsazsa's analysis on Drazerk seems to be correct and I definitely think that he is scum. And thus, I place my vote. ##Vote: Drazerk Notice the confident attitude. Yes the majority of his posts are short and he provides little explanation, but he's exhibiting a confident attitude about what he thinks. He blatantly calls the town stupid before casting a vote based on contradictions, which went against the town consensus at that point. Contrast this with his posts this game: On July 25 2011 12:27 Nisani201 wrote: Ugh, first I have redFF being a hero in Vigi mafia and shooting someone in the first hour of vigi mafia, and now I have this? Ugh, whatever. youngminii is probably scum, because he, you know, KILLED A TOWNIE ON THE SPOT. ##Vote youngminii Just tossing around his vote like he doesn't care, and only because youngminii killed a townie. Nothing confident, nothing about contradictions and slip ups. He also voted for BC at the same time when everyone else was placing their votes on him, and spent the rest of the day afk with the occasional post about nothing. In real time mafia, he also had a few long posts, including a defense. And as we are all aware of he's yet to have any post longer than 3 lines this game. On June 30 2011 09:03 Nisani201 wrote: Fantastic. I am so excited to hear this analysis only to find out... that it is about me. *puts on sunglasses* Defense time. My comments on the analysis are in red. + Show Spoiler + On June 30 2011 08:07 sinani206 wrote: Nisani201
Nisani201 has 36 posts in the thread, 24 of which are from after the Day 1 post. His mean post length is 2.5 sentences, his mode post length is 2 sentences, and his maximum post length is 6 sentences which he reached 2 times. Just keep these numbers in mind as I continue this analysis. Those numbers mean anything, and I don't understand why you would waste your time doing all that math and counting. Quality over quantity is what matters. Just because a post is short doesn't mean it can't be useful. Here is an example of one of Nisani201's better posts: On June 29 2011 07:59 Sinani201 wrote: I agree. I just looked through Syllogism's posts. While they may not necessarily all of opinions in them, only two of them seem somewhat pointless, which isn't enough to warrant a lynch. Cthsazsa's analysis on Drazerk seems to be correct and I definitely think that he is scum. And thus, I place my vote. ##Vote: Drazerk In this post, he simply agrees with sandroba's thoughts that syllogism is town and Cthsazsa's analysis, which showed that Drazerk was scum. He does not provide any new content. I defended Syllogism with some thoughts on his behaviour. Does that not count as new content? His other 6-sentence gem: On June 29 2011 10:33 Sinani201 wrote: This trend of shooting down spammy players is insanely stupid; it's what lost the town in XVII. Cthasza wrote a fantastic analysis on Drazerk, and if he's right about it then there shouldn't be a reason to lynch him. I'm voting for Draserk because he is full of contradictions and slip-ups, NOT because of spam. That is all. He provides one tiny piece of advice: not to kill spammy players, which is only half-right: lynch scum, shoot spammers. He re-references Cthasza's analysis and defends his vote, but he doesn't give any evidence of Drazerk's "contradictions and slip-ups."\ Right now Viscera is under fire because his analysis was supposedly a repeat of what others have said. It's implied that the contradictions and slip-ups are in Cthsasza's analysis. These are Nisani201's two longest posts, and both of them are simply parroting what others have said and stating the obvious without adding any new analysis to the table. Completely wrong, as I've stated in the red. Here are some examples of what the average Nisani201 post looks like: On June 28 2011 11:57 Sinani201 wrote: No more stupid TF2 Garry's Mod videos. This is serious business. The reason why "fluff" is so frowned upon is because it makes it hard to navigate through the thread. Fluff takes space from important things like analysis, defense, and possible scumslips. This post was at the very beginning, so it's stupid to say that it is a "fluff" post. On June 28 2011 14:15 Sinani201 wrote: Sorry, bad formatting. Please change my name on the player list to "Nisani201 (Sinani201)" as that is what I should be known as throughout the game I don't understand how this is fluff. I said it because there was a post before it where someone named me Sinani, which is what I want to avoid. On June 28 2011 14:40 Sinani201 wrote: Palmar is not in this game, he submitted /out soon before the game started. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=237124¤tpage=6#109 Though this ended up not being true, it was new content that I was bringing attention to the other players. They later thanked me for telling them. On June 29 2011 01:41 Sinani201 wrote: The roles should have been randomized, likely with random.org. I doubt that RoL "strategically" planted roles on each of us. This was in response to your post about how it would be unlikely for us to be on the same alignment. I thought that you had been mistaken on how the roles were generated. I was wrong but remember that I am a newbie so I don't know how everything works. On June 30 2011 06:35 Sinani201 wrote: When is Day over? What happens if the lynch ends up being a tie? This isn't fluff, it's a question. These are all bits of information that are not useful to the town in any way and questions that can easily be answered by reading the OP. He makes these posts because he doesn't want to have to post content, but he doesn't want to seem inactive. On June 28 2011 12:21 Sinani201 wrote: You're already voting for me? First off, I am not Sinani201. I'm Nisani201. Second of all, if you want me to make a post, you could have asked nicely. I don't have anything to contribute yet. I'm reading every single post, and when I feel like I have enough information, I will contribute. First, I pressure him into posting and he responds by saying that he will contribute when he has enough information. Let's see what he means by contribute: On June 28 2011 13:24 Sinani201 wrote: From this, it seems like you are either trying to help the Mafia, or softclaiming medic. Or perhaps trying to help the medic. This is his "analysis" of chaos13, where he points out that he is either Mafia or Medic. This contribution does not help town at all. The fact that he could be on either side is useless, and pointing out that he could be Medic helps Mafia, as GMarshal pointed out. It's not analysis, it's a comment, a contribution if you will. If I were trying to help the Mafia I would have been able to tell them in PM. His next "contribution:" On June 29 2011 09:38 Sinani201 wrote: I don't really understand how the first quote from him is a scumslip. The second one is iffy; I could see why you might think it's suspicious but it could by no means be used as a primary argument. He is referring my supposed scumslips which were posted by sandroba. He refuses to take a stance on my play. He is acting extremely safe and neutral, which is a scummy trait. [red]It's Day 1, so evidence can't always be 100%. I also don't want to be put under fire for taking a too aggressive stance on topics. A more recent post: On June 30 2011 00:40 Sinani201 wrote: Drazerk has posts that give off scumtells. For Viscera, it's a lack of posts. I don't understand why the bandwagon against Drazerk is a bad thing. A lot of people are voting for him. That just means Cthsasa's analysis against him was good. It's not OMGUS, it's just agreement. He says that a lot of people are voting for Drazerk because Cthazsa's analysis was good. I assume he was talking about himself as well when he said this. He subtly explains that he is voting because of the analysis, not because he actually thought that Drazerk was scummy. This is a major scumslip. He is basically saying he found a good analysis to hide behind. The point of an analysis is to convince other people to vote for someone. Cthazsa's analysis convinced me to vote for Drazerk. Finally, he says this in response to Drazerk's analysis of me: On June 30 2011 04:09 Sinani201 wrote: You're trying to draw attention away from the large amount of votes you have accumulated. We have pretty much established that you are scum so why should anyone trust you? This is a scummy post because Drazerk's analysis of me was good because it could have started some healthy discussion, and as scum, Nisani201 would want to stop all discussion, which he does, which proves his scumminess. My comment on the analysis did not take away any potential for discussion. I was simply stating my opinion. If anyone else has opinions on it, by all means tell us. That took an hour and a half to write. Whew. My vote will stay on VisceraEyes today, but tomorrow, I urge all of you to vote for Nisani 201. Thank you, good sirs. + Show Spoiler + On July 02 2011 09:58 Nisani201 wrote: Hello everyone. It's dissapointing to see that I am the primary lynch target. I am the Vigilante, and I was the one who killed DropBear. If anyone would like to counter that then please go ahead. As for my contribution, there is something that I've been working on. It's a node graph of everyone's actions, grouped by username. I have no idea if it will be useful or not; this is my first game and I thought it would be interesting to try. http://i.imgur.com/E1PnP.jpg Initially I wanted to color code it by blue (defending another player), teal (accusing another player), and purple (aggressive action), but I eventually gave up mid way because I didn't think it was useful. The number in the brackets is the post number (last number in the URL when pressing the # button on people's post). I now realize that you need the page number AND the post number for this to work properly. I'll be placing my vote on him in the hopes he responds. Otherwise we should put a Bisu in him. | ||
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On August 08 2011 03:32 Curu wrote: I love how Nisani didn't even use his role. And picked the most useless thing for Kurumi, rofl. Also wut, Wiggles saved me? I was a terrible save  . But I love you man.How did you guys know I created Foolishness's role? There's a Wheel of Time topic on Team Liquid, you have some posts in there. I know not conclusive, but I still figured it was you. On August 08 2011 03:37 kitaman27 wrote: Any purpose behind that role restriction Foolishness or were you just trying to troll? :p It's just a way to hide any real posting restriction I may have had. It ended up being a nice distraction since so many people (like redFF) spent time trying to figure it out or prod me about it. That wasn't the original intention though. I was planning on doing it from the start regardless of what my role was. In these types of crazy games a fake roleclaim is incredibly powerful no matter whose side you are on (especially in the late game). So I planned to use it as a method of claiming a pro-town role in the late game. It worked out better since I ended up being the godfather so I could make up another role that made use of that. The thief role kinda made that moot though and I may have sent Deconduo an angry PM about that =P | ||
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On August 08 2011 05:25 Curu wrote: Godamnit you really did your research huh. Wow. This is mafia ^.^ | ||
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On August 08 2011 05:32 Curu wrote: It still boggles my mind why Wiggles chose me of all people to protect. But that kinda screwed you over, lol. Haha yes. Was quite unfortunate; we sent in 3 kills and only one of them went through. But 3 townies still died so upfront it looked like nothing had happened (except Wiggles took two hits). After the day post I facepalm'd and cursed PTP games =P | ||
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