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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 25 2011 21:55 GMT
#765
How about this BC. You submit to being checked by supersoft, who you said is likely Town, and you don't get lynched today if he says you're green.

You said the exact same thing I said in WaW2 to sandroba as scum rofl. Nice gambit, worked for me there, I hope it won't work for you here. The only reason you would say that unless you think I am 100% scum is to save yourself.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 25 2011 21:58 GMT
#769
On July 26 2011 06:54 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 06:52 sandroba wrote:
Let me say this. There is no advantage in NOT using the check. He is most likely town and will most likely end up dead at night. He wants to check you BC, why don't you oblige?


Because then I do die tonight. See I have this thing called self preservation and when I get confirmed as green by your magic dt, I get shot. As mafia / sks will want a confirmed BC dead and an angry town vig who thinks im a gf, or some other scum flavoured role immune to alignment checks will shoot me.

The check only makes sure I die.


So then if you're shot we know supersoft is legit. Because if Mafia is trusting his claims then they must be legit.

You wanna pull out another WIFOM argument?

You think I'm scum BC? What about everyone else who has disagreed with your faulty reasoning?
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 25 2011 22:02 GMT
#774
If I'm Town then I have no way to know you're red besides your scummy posting. Are you encouraging Townies to only push for lynches if they are 100% sure the person is red? Do you think I'm scum BC?
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 25 2011 22:04 GMT
#778
BC, lemme ask you again.

Do you think I'm scum?
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 25 2011 22:19 GMT
#787
Town can never be sure of your guilt. What I am sure of is you are the scummiest player thus far to me, so to me you have the highest chance of flipping red. That makes you the best lynch and that is why I am pushing for you.

If you don't think I'm scum then there's no possible Pro Town reason for proposing your bet besides to shake pressure off yourself by making yourself appear willing to die. I know your thought process, I did this exact same thing to sandroba.

Why are you so sure getting yourself checked by supersoft will get you killed? You yourself said that behavioral analysis rather than power is far more important, so by your logic scum would much rather kill the most effective scum hunters rather than someone who was "cleared' by a completely unreliable (in your words) power.

You don't want supersoft to use his power because we can't rely on it, but you also don't want supersoft to use his power because it will confirm someone as Town for Mafia to kill? Your ideas are completely contradictory.

I stand by my read that you are the best lynch today. If you really want to promote the atmosphere that Town should never try to lynch unless they are 100% sure the person is guilty, then we sit on our asses waiting for DTs to win the game for us (oh hey, but you don't want the confirmed DT to use his power either). Should we just no lynch every day then?
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 25 2011 22:29 GMT
#792
Well he has to be one alignment type or the other. If Mafia is using his reads to hit confirmed Town, then that's our signal that supersoft is reliable. And we are using him to check the scummiest and most suspicious players. If Mafia wants to take them out, then so be it, they're the poorest targets for hits anyways and already the most unreliable/worst scumhunters.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 25 2011 22:34 GMT
#798
He doesn't choose who he's checking. We pick the targets for him out of the most suspect players.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 25 2011 22:40 GMT
#801
Kurumi is gambiting something or other, I don't think he's a good day 1 lynch. When I was on his scum team he decided to play the "intelligent lurking Townie" and that's certainly not the case here. Pure meta but I don't think he's a worthwhile lynch yet.

kita I would want to see him post more first but I wouldn't be against lynching him if I can't get a BC wagon to form.

BC is so against having a DT check someone that we choose (we can even just not use his checks until after he dies, then use them) at no cost except providing extra information that I have to think he has an ulterior motive.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 25 2011 23:19 GMT
#821
What's with all this "I'll get checked if you do xxx and xxx and xxx for me first" bullshit.

If we want to enforce this check, then we lynch anyone who refuses to do it. Remember that people we want checked are people that we probably want lynched too.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 26 2011 14:08 GMT
#936
BC do you suggest we no lynch today then? Since no one should be posting their suspicions or analysis until they are 100% sure someone is Mafia.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 26 2011 15:36 GMT
#948
On July 25 2011 10:27 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 10:26 Curu wrote:
This game is Harry Potter Mafia? Did I miss something wut?

One idea: everyone can claim their own roles. That doesn't activate the penalty AFAIK. Then if anyone lies at all then their role creator can call them out.

This allows us to coordinate everyone's powers and dissenters can be lynched. Effectively we can coordinate everyone's actions and avoid hero syndrome or people using their powers in an Anti Town way (can also somewhat cripple the Mafia's powers).

The only weakness I can see is that it lets the Mafia pick and choose their targets among who has the most powerful roles. However, they already know many of the roles of Town (the ones they themselves created) so it's not all that debilitating.

Thoughts?

You're scum?


O hi there hypocrite.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 26 2011 16:13 GMT
#951
BC do you think we should no lynch today? You're discouraging people from building cases unless they are 100% sure, but no one can be 100% sure on Day 1.

I notice your vote is on Jackal, do you mind giving your reasons?
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 26 2011 16:46 GMT
#959
You were the first to vote for Jackal BC. On a policy (lynch liars). You're up for lynch yourself now on a policy (lynch people refusing to get checked). You say that starting a bandwagon on you is stupid because none of us are sure you are scum, but you started the bandwagon on Jackal as well.

So do you feel strongly enough about lynching Jackal that you'll be a Vig hit or next lynch if he flips green? Because you think he lied about his role PM. That's your conviction for starting the wagon on him?

And to answer your own question, no one defended redFF in your own game and he turned out scum.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 26 2011 17:06 GMT
#969
Well you have Amber, Foolishness, Lanaia subtly pushing the topic away from you then. Amber with a chainsaw too ("you're all retards for voting BC, vote Jackal").

The only doubt I have right now is I now see Jackal as equally as good of a lynch because he has been useless since coming in (and pulling the same martyr bullshit you are to get out of telling us anything if we lynch him) and his vote fell to you as the easy way to get himself out of a lynch. But unless this is some bizarre bus, that means you are both Town or one red one green.

Palmar, his reasoning is that supersoft did that to buy Town cred because Mafia acting against Mafia's best interests is the best way to hide that you're Mafia. I explained why supersoft is almost certainly Town but BC's counter was a convoluted WIFOM claim. And if he's 3rd he has no reason to lie, therefore his check is trustworthy unless he's insane/paranoid or something (which I highly doubt).

I can't get behind that plan sandroba. Drazerk is useless and trolling (Kurumi is too, what's to differentiate between the two?) but Jackal is equally useless and BC is scummier than both to me. If we want to consider Drazerk I want to do it next day.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 26 2011 17:22 GMT
#979
Come on man, do you really think supersoft's role was useful enough for him to sacrifice Tackster instead of himself? An alignment check for Mafia and 1 KP the entire game.

And no, people were suspecting YM. supersoft could easily have cleared himself by saying he thought YM was scum, I doubt he would have been lynched for it. And in any case, 100% chance of losing a Mafia (Tackster) and still having the lynch open vs less than 100% chance of losing a Mafia (if supersoft was Mafia, and no guarantee supersoft would have been lynched) and tying up the lynch, it's obvious that supersoft acted with only Pro Town intentions. If you were so willing to believe Fishball was Town because of some Meta reasons (oh when he's not Town then he kills me) then I can't see any reason you can't believe supersoft is Town for much more solid reasons.

My vote's staying on BC. Your OMGUS (Vigs kill everyone who is voting for me) doesn't help.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 26 2011 17:34 GMT
#986
lol BC, I just can't see any single thing you do as Pro Town. Now you're encouraging people to be afraid to scumhunt and put pressure on anyone. You were the head of Jackal's lynch, you were so sure he was scum that you were willing to be held accountable if he flipped green?

In any case I think this matter is closed, talking with BC is going nowhere. He is my preferred lynch target for today.

Lots of people not posting at all during the massive BC argument and still not posting.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 26 2011 18:01 GMT
#998
I'm willing to lynch either BC or Jackal today. Obviously I prefer BC but if all of you are so sure that BC is Town then I won't be narrowminded or stubborn enough to think that so many people are wrong and I am right.

If we lynch him and Jackal flips Town I'd like the pressure back on BC.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 26 2011 18:36 GMT
#1007
How many people are here that can vote on Kurumi?
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 26 2011 18:39 GMT
#1009
I don't know either, he also wanted a Vig to shoot him.
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Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
July 26 2011 19:14 GMT
#1015
BC, if you're Mafia I commend you.

##Unvote: BloodyC0bbler
##Vote: Jackal58
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