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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4380 Posts
August 07 2011 15:07 GMT
#2861
Sucker for nostalgia
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 07 2011 15:37 GMT
#2862
Ok ok, but block Drazerk for me first.
wat
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 07 2011 15:39 GMT
#2863
Why?

He knows I can't possibly be scum due to yesterdays role block on me which he knows went ahead and I could not of possibly killed Heist which was the scum hit .
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
August 07 2011 15:59 GMT
#2864
bro if your town lie down and die. Town's goal is to eliminate all anti town forces, not survive 'till the end. isn't a 1 for 1 trade worth it?

I think your scum anyways though. could i request a medic protect, if one still exists? haven't been keeping track of roles as much as i should, but i believe that the information i have now from my role could win us the game.

Kill Drazerk. If drazerk flips town lynch dropbear.

I will explain when the day comes, so that i can get one last whisper before the voices go away.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 07 2011 16:09 GMT
#2865
On August 08 2011 00:59 Varpulis wrote:
bro if your town lie down and die. Town's goal is to eliminate all anti town forces, not survive 'till the end. isn't a 1 for 1 trade worth it?

I think your scum anyways though. could i request a medic protect, if one still exists? haven't been keeping track of roles as much as i should, but i believe that the information i have now from my role could win us the game.

Kill Drazerk. If drazerk flips town lynch dropbear.

I will explain when the day comes, so that i can get one last whisper before the voices go away.


Time and time again it has been proven that I can not be scum and Curu just relents on. If I am alive Curu can not win if I am dead Curu wins by default as he made the most over powered role in the universe stole it back using his role and then bused Foolishness for town credit.

Since I am the only medic left in the game Ill be protecting drop regardless. He's the only one I trust this game because of how idiotic you have all been.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 07 2011 16:40 GMT
#2866
Drazerk:

On July 25 2011 10:13 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 10:07 OriginalName wrote:
SAND GIVE IT TO ME NOW


Ok lets consider for a moment... apparently both Voldemort ( Presuming the scum Godfather ) and harry potter ( Some random townie bonus role? ) are searching for the hallows.

It could be very possible this is an additional win condition for scum / town and we should NOT give them out so willingly.

On top of this stick = wand = KP. We don't want to give away that power so willingly.


Already trying to paint Voldemort (the Town) as Mafia and Harry Potter (the Mafia) as Town. There was no indication whatsoever that this was the case, and role name =/= Mafia should have been obvious. In fact before the game syllogism was talking about naming his role The Mafia Godfather and hoping it was a Townie. Also note the scumslip about the wand = KP, nobody knew that at the time except ON and Jackal. Oh and all of Jackal's scumbuddies.

On July 25 2011 10:38 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 10:35 OriginalName wrote:
On July 25 2011 10:35 OriginalName wrote:
On July 25 2011 10:33 redFF wrote:
On July 25 2011 10:30 OriginalName wrote:
On July 25 2011 10:30 youngminii wrote:
On July 25 2011 10:26 Curu wrote:
This game is Harry Potter Mafia? Did I miss something wut?

One idea: everyone can claim their own roles. That doesn't activate the penalty AFAIK. Then if anyone lies at all then their role creator can call them out.

This allows us to coordinate everyone's powers and dissenters can be lynched. Effectively we can coordinate everyone's actions and avoid hero syndrome or people using their powers in an Anti Town way (can also somewhat cripple the Mafia's powers).

The only weakness I can see is that it lets the Mafia pick and choose their targets among who has the most powerful roles. However, they already know many of the roles of Town (the ones they themselves created) so it's not all that debilitating.

Thoughts?

Why would anyone, including scum, lie?

Also, smooth one OriginalName..


Screw you I want powers.

I think you should claim, your derailing town discussion by being cryptic about the horcruxes. We should either stop trying to get information from ON or he should claim.


Im Townie Voldemort.

Why the fuck Voldemort is a townie is beyond my level of comprehension.

I find Items I get powers.

Heist basically said everything you could say about said powers.
I have a power to help me get items but I realllllllllllyyyyy would rather not claim that.


EDIT


You kill people and steal the items considering your Voldemort?

also I'm going to sleep please sort this wand discussion out before I wake up.


More of trying to paint ON as the bad guy.

On July 25 2011 18:36 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2011 18:24 Palmar wrote:
I think Jackal58 needs to hang no matter how you look at it. We know that ON flipped green, and I very much doubt they'd be on the same side, especially now that we know Jackal58 lied about his role pm.

I'm pretty sure Jackal is anti-town.

Can we just get a day-vig to shoot jackal58, so we can actually get some discussion going, instead of just herping and derping about roles and writing harry potter fanfic?

Any day-vig who straight up shoots harry potter in the face is doing this town massive favor.

##Vote Jackal58


Watch him not be harry potter but in fact a detective!

at any rate I am suspecting jackal as clearly he lied about his role ( Voldemort being townie ) and it's pretty obvious that he is an alternate alignment to Voldemort so either way he needs killing.

Also I am guessing heist wrote the role or is there a third harry potter role out there?

Final note - If you vote in the voting thread without telling anyone why I will start the bandwagon on you myself.


This post came right after Palmar's post about Jackal. At that point it was clear Jackal was going to die sooner or later since ON had flipped, distancing themselves from Jackal was the smart move. But notice he never actually tries to push aggressively for Jackal, even though he later claims that he's the role creator and he knew Jackal lied (which is also BS, Jackal didn't lie about anything in his role).

AKA this:

On July 28 2011 07:13 Drazerk wrote:
Right work sprung up on me these past few days and I've basically had zero time to read the thread. I am catching up now.

Also to explain my case on jackal a bit better and probably get him lynched/shot if he is still alive - I created his role and that's why I know he is lying about needing to kill Voldemort so if we can kill him please do.

I am going to read through the thread now sorry for my activity. Also bring on the penalty it's worth it for a scum kill.


Is just stupid. If he was so sure and so willing to bring on the penalty to get Jackal lynched, he would've done it at a time when it actually mattered (ie when BC was getting mislynched and Jackal was going to survive the day or even at night after the mislynch when a night Vig could've used the information). Yet note he doesn't actually post anything or even try to push Jackal despite his conviction that Jackal was scum until after Jackal is dead. Stupid attempt to buy Town cred.

On July 29 2011 07:18 Drazerk wrote:
Right I've caught back up ( Again )

Foolishness actually comes across as a great lynch in my eyes he is doing the same thing as I did in WaW2 - Faking a posting restriction.

I can't remember who said it but basically they referred to me as a distraction, someone who was only there to disrupt the game the best they could and then go out in a blaze of glory. Even though I was town in that game the only reason scum kept me around is because I would of been a great lynch for them. Foolishness could be doing the same tactic but as scum. The argument is very wifom but he isn't someone I'd like to keep in the game ( Especially since I lost town the game thanks to this )

Since my vote can be manipulated ill be voting for him until one of his scum buddies ( Or kurumi ) votes for me.

##Vote: Foolishness


AGAIN, he is somehow sure that Foolishness is faking a post restriction. Another scumslip. The SAME scumslip that chaos had. The only people that were sure that the post restriction was fake at that point were me, Foolishness, and all of Foolishness's scumbuddies. And AGAIN, though he claims to be sure Foolishness was faking and was pretty sure he's scum, he doesn't say a peep day 1 or until after syllo, Amber, and sandroba have all brought the heat onto Foolishness already and he looked like the most likely lynch.

Rest of the thread is just him riding the person most likely to get lynched (still not contributing or pushing for them though).

Most damning thing though is his defense of himself. No it's not that he's defending himself, it's how he did it. He was pretty inactive throughout the entire thread until suspicion got piled on him. He has 1 and a half pages of filtered posts pre-defense that were all non-contributing, and then 6 and a half more pages of defending himself.

That he chose me as the scum is completely laughable and ensures he is scum. Besides Kurumi, who is verified by his Cloak but not his actions, I am the most Pro Town looking player in the game. He has no choice but to attack me because I am the only one that can kill him. None of his reasons for thinking I'm the scum remotely make sense, because none of my actions make sense at all if I was scum. In fact I'd go so far as to say that were I scum, I would have already won the game by just lying low and leading Town into a mislynch each time. There's plenty of fodder; Lanaia, Varpulis, DropBear, bum, none of them looked absolutely Pro Town. I spoke up so much and stuck my neck out because I am sure Drazerk is the last scum.

The fact that he is unwilling to go 1-for-1 when he supposedly is "absolutely sure" I am the last scum means two things:
1) He doesn't actually think I'm scum
2) He's the last scum and needs to do anything possible to ensure his survival

Were he Town, his natural response would be to try to convince me that it was Lanaia or someone else rather than him because he can't possibly think I'm scum. But as soon as I came up with a plan that would result in him dead, he had no choice but to try to stop it by trying to discredit me instead.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 07 2011 16:44 GMT
#2867
On August 08 2011 01:09 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 00:59 Varpulis wrote:
bro if your town lie down and die. Town's goal is to eliminate all anti town forces, not survive 'till the end. isn't a 1 for 1 trade worth it?

I think your scum anyways though. could i request a medic protect, if one still exists? haven't been keeping track of roles as much as i should, but i believe that the information i have now from my role could win us the game.

Kill Drazerk. If drazerk flips town lynch dropbear.

I will explain when the day comes, so that i can get one last whisper before the voices go away.


Time and time again it has been proven that I can not be scum and Curu just relents on. If I am alive Curu can not win if I am dead Curu wins by default as he made the most over powered role in the universe stole it back using his role and then bused Foolishness for town credit.

Since I am the only medic left in the game Ill be protecting drop regardless. He's the only one I trust this game because of how idiotic you have all been.


This is also a non-reason. If I were the last Mafia, I would win when nobody is left in the game but me and Drazerk. His protection is a nonfactor, since it's delayed and I could just kill whoever he protected each night. I'm also 100% sure I could've just gotten him to put the protection on me each night and skated to a mislynch lylo win.

He doesn't have any real reason for me to be scum but he has to push it because he loses otherwise. And he has to make it sound like he must survive, which is absolutely not the case if he was Town.
wat
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 07 2011 16:50 GMT
#2868
I wasn't around for the BC ordeal.

If I was I would of claimed and killed jackal. If you was a smart town you would of killed me for lurking back then.

The Host confirmed no posting restrictions. I make fake posting restrictions for laughs hell I fake role claimed as my first post!

I've killed scum every day and no scum would willingly reduce them self to 1 KP unless they had built a lot of town cred up with those lynches.

I give you this task then Curu - Work out who killed Heist as you know it must be scum and it couldn't of been me as I was role blocked.
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 07 2011 16:53 GMT
#2869
On August 08 2011 01:44 Curu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 08 2011 01:09 Drazerk wrote:
On August 08 2011 00:59 Varpulis wrote:
bro if your town lie down and die. Town's goal is to eliminate all anti town forces, not survive 'till the end. isn't a 1 for 1 trade worth it?

I think your scum anyways though. could i request a medic protect, if one still exists? haven't been keeping track of roles as much as i should, but i believe that the information i have now from my role could win us the game.

Kill Drazerk. If drazerk flips town lynch dropbear.

I will explain when the day comes, so that i can get one last whisper before the voices go away.


Time and time again it has been proven that I can not be scum and Curu just relents on. If I am alive Curu can not win if I am dead Curu wins by default as he made the most over powered role in the universe stole it back using his role and then bused Foolishness for town credit.

Since I am the only medic left in the game Ill be protecting drop regardless. He's the only one I trust this game because of how idiotic you have all been.


This is also a non-reason. If I were the last Mafia, I would win when nobody is left in the game but me and Drazerk. His protection is a nonfactor, since it's delayed and I could just kill whoever he protected each night. I'm also 100% sure I could've just gotten him to put the protection on me each night and skated to a mislynch lylo win.

He doesn't have any real reason for me to be scum but he has to push it because he loses otherwise. And he has to make it sound like he must survive, which is absolutely not the case if he was Town.


The way town has been playing I simply do not trust them to lynch you.

You will find some hair brained scheme and lynch lanania or bear or even kurumi
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 07 2011 16:57 GMT
#2870
All mechanics discussion aside, the way Drazerk defended himself is the absolute damning factor. Lanaia made no attempt to discredit or change bum's shot when I was pushing for her.

DropBear looks pretty bad but outing supersoft and RBing Foolishness N1 and chaos later on buys him a lot of cred.

The fact that Drazerk voted for every scum doesn't mean shit, he voted for them when it was clear they were going to die. He didn't contribute anything to any of their lynches.

That you "weren't around" is crap too. You were LRing in SC2 threads and your recent activity obviously shows you do have the time to be around every day. You just didn't care to be active when it didn't serve your Mafia agenda.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 07 2011 17:08 GMT
#2871
And you're right, I can't explain how heist got shot but I'm pretty sure it was either something to do with your role buff (in which case you'll block every action tonight instead of just the first and then we lynch you) or bum was just SUPER herpaderp retard and didn't do any action at all and lied about it. That he was so unwilling to answer everyone asking him what he did lends credit to that.

It's not fair but deconduo damned you too. Why on earth would you of all people get a rolebuff for a mistake he made? It also makes 0 sense that it was to survive Lanaia's shot, you're lying about that being the buff. Let me know the logic behind a mistake somewhere and that being the resulting buff.

How I see it deconduo either made the booboo by letting you somehow protect Palmar so he had to retcon your ability, or he made a booboo by letting Palmar live which put suspicion on you so he had to buff you in some way to compensate.

Either way even the mod is pointing at you.
wat
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 07 2011 17:18 GMT
#2872
When I was inactive I never LR'd check my posting history before you make such stupid claims.

I know Dec pointed a finger at me that Is why I requested that he would verify that I could not of saved palmar.

If the mod had outed me as scum I would of already conceded as there is no chance that I would of survived that.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 07 2011 17:21 GMT
#2873
So in the ~24 hours of BC vs Jackal you couldn't come on once to make a case against Jackal even though you were absolutely sure he was scum? Or hell, even in 30+ hours when the case against Jackal was building but people were still unsure?

Yeah no. You posted as if you would be willing to take the penalty and wanted absolutely to get Jackal lynched, yet you never revealed any of it in the like 2 and a half days you had of day 1 + night 1 for it to actually influence anything.

And believe me I tried, but you have so many LR posts that searching you doesn't go back that far.
wat
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 07 2011 17:22 GMT
#2874
On August 08 2011 02:21 Curu wrote:
So in the ~24 hours of BC vs Jackal you couldn't come on once to make a case against Jackal even though you were absolutely sure he was scum? Or hell, even in 30+ hours when the case against Jackal was building but people were still unsure?

Yeah no. You posted as if you would be willing to take the penalty and wanted absolutely to get Jackal lynched, yet you never revealed any of it in the like 2 and a half days you had of day 1 + night 1 for it to actually influence anything.

And believe me I tried, but you have so many LR posts that searching you doesn't go back that far.


damn posting 1k posts in the space of one Mafia game...
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4380 Posts
August 07 2011 17:24 GMT
#2875
Something stinks.

Curu I am not convinced by your case on Drazerk. At all. In fact it has eased my suspicions of him lol.

Is there any reason that Varpulis is completely ignored in the discussion as to who is dodgy? I killed kitaman based on what he said.
Sucker for nostalgia
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4380 Posts
August 07 2011 17:26 GMT
#2876
Just for the record Curu I don't think you're scum either.
Sucker for nostalgia
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
August 07 2011 17:26 GMT
#2877
On August 08 2011 02:24 DropBear wrote:
Something stinks.

Curu I am not convinced by your case on Drazerk. At all. In fact it has eased my suspicions of him lol.

Is there any reason that Varpulis is completely ignored in the discussion as to who is dodgy? I killed kitaman based on what he said.


Varp just says he has voices that will shed light on the heist murder

Its really the only thing going on in this game we need to learn so I see no reason as to why he isn't sharing.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 07 2011 17:27 GMT
#2878
Sigh. You stink.

Just block Drazerk and if he's not it you kill me tomorrow. I'll put my vote on myself too. Kurumi will put his vote on me. You will most definitely put your vote on me. There's no way I'm worming out of it.

Varpulis completely forgot about this game and announced in Kurumi's game that it was his first time as scum. Some intense metagame play maybe, but not likely. I also explained to you the correct voice was Amber putting medic on sandroba but you didn't listen to me that time either.
wat
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 07 2011 17:31 GMT
#2879
Oh you can't use your ability huh. You already used it to kill kitaman.

Well, Drazerk's dead.
wat
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4380 Posts
August 07 2011 17:31 GMT
#2880
On August 08 2011 02:27 Curu wrote:
Sigh. You stink.

Just block Drazerk and if he's not it you kill me tomorrow. I'll put my vote on myself too. Kurumi will put his vote on me. You will most definitely put your vote on me. There's no way I'm worming out of it.

Varpulis completely forgot about this game and announced in Kurumi's game that it was his first time as scum. Some intense metagame play maybe, but not likely. I also explained to you the correct voice was Amber putting medic on sandroba but you didn't listen to me that time either.


That sir is in fact 100% incorrect.

On July 31 2011 05:50 deconduo wrote:
Day 3

Amber[LighT] the Gambler has rolled his last dice.

You are the Gambler
Every night host rolls the dice. Depending on the number you roll you will have two choices:
1 - Medic or Rolecheck
2 - Vig hit or Frame
3 - Vet life or Track
4 - Roleblock or become unlynchable the next day
5 - Mason someone or Day Vig hit tomorrow.
6 - DT check or your vote counts as 3 votes tomorrow.

Once per game You can reroll."


Night 2 is Vig hit or frame. There aint no medic protect in there mate.
Sucker for nostalgia
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