, I did that because I don't want to type the quote tags myself and hitting reply then copy pasting the text automatically puts quote tags around the text (and makes the Original Message part show up).

sandroba

Canada4998 Posts

August 01 2011 03:02 GMT

#2204

That makes no sense. If you thought foolishness intentions with posting with fake restrictions was to draw out his role creator to snipe him, that would mean he is scum and you could solve the problem of him "stealing your role" back by pushing for his lynch day1, since no townie has any reasons to lie or fake post restrictions. Also the fact that foolishness was balsy enough to fake a post restriction day1 means he knew he had his back covered (someone on his team created his role). Also yes, putting the creator of this wheel of time role and the player who got it in the same team could be argued to be imba, but even so we have no way of confirming that you actually have this role, so you could be full of shit.

sandroba

Canada4998 Posts

August 01 2011 03:04 GMT

#2205

On August 01 2011 11:59 Curu wrote:
Oh, Original Message thing showed up cause I hit reply and copy pasted the text from that.

I can't believe I'm arguing PM mechanics right now -_-

Or someone else hit reply when pm'ing you this role, which makes way more sense. =)

Curu

Canada2817 Posts

August 01 2011 03:05 GMT

#2206

On August 01 2011 11:34 Curu wrote:
I did not/do not want to activate a penalty,

You want to push me for PM quotes?

Varpulis

United States2517 Posts

August 01 2011 03:06 GMT

#2207

On August 01 2011 11:56 sandroba wrote:
Yes, Eiii did send out the aligment pms, but if you copy/pasted it from your pm inbox, "Original Message From Eiii:" would not appear.

yes it would. let me give an example. This is a screenshot of a totally non-game related pm conversation: (from a conversation with iGrok about Paranoid mafia, which i cohosted) [image loading]

Curu isn't bullshitting about that, at least.

sandroba, stop overthinking things. Curu getting Foolishness killed was one of the most pro-town actions thus far, imo.

sandroba

Canada4998 Posts

August 01 2011 03:11 GMT

#2208

On August 01 2011 12:05 Curu wrote:

Show nested quote +

You want to push me for PM quotes?

No, not purely on that =P. If you are town be grateful that you will prob not get hit tonight and get to use the imba role you created =).

Curu

Canada2817 Posts

August 01 2011 03:20 GMT

#2209

No, there's nothing wrong with what sandroba is doing. I was actively looking for an angle that sandroba could have been Mafia from Varpulis's 3 statements thing, but I couldn't find any side that it'd make sense for sandroba to be Mafia else I would have posted it as well. Confirming someone too easily is bad, and it's worth it for scum to bus if they can get a player as "confirmed" Town to live to mylo/lylo.

Keeping discussion active and transparent as well as an open mind about other players is not a bad thing and gives more room for scum to make a mistake and slip.

Once again, I admit that I was selfish in not being transparent right from the start of Day 2 but I hadn't thought of Foolishness as confirmed scum yet and didn't want to possibly push in another mislynch. I thought it very odd that Nisani jumped from YM to BC (clearly voting wherever the bandwagon was easiest), further compounded on day 2 when he just voted for whoever voted for him, but never ever hit the Jackal wagon so I thought there was a good chance that he was scum. He accused Foolishness, which made me more hesitant about calling Foolishness scum because I don't think Nisani is capable of a teammate bus.

It was a combination of finding out about Godfather's role changing, reading the TL Quiz thing that Foolishness was always a night 1 scum hit, and realizing that Foolishness was regarded as a great player that confirmed it for me (great players don't just push wall of text defenses of themselves and then only push Nisani who is always the scummiest player in the game regardless of his alignment).

Lanaia

Canada1142 Posts

August 01 2011 03:22 GMT

#2210

Okay, when people say, in regards to mafia, that someone is being transparent, what exactly is meant by that? Curu apologizes for not being transparent. I'm confused slightly here. I've never heard that phrase until this game, iirc.

Curu

Canada2817 Posts

August 01 2011 03:25 GMT

#2211

Giving the motivations behind my actions and revealing all the information I knew. Basically that I was keeping secrets from the Town for personal purposes.

Curu

Canada2817 Posts

August 01 2011 03:28 GMT

#2212

Oh and in case anyone was wondering what I was doing in the night, I was trying my hardest to draw a shot (insisting all over the place that I had my third power which suggests I used the hidden vote power already as my action for the cycle) then actually using my vet power.

Whether or not I actually drew a shot is unknown because dec never answered me.

Eiii

United States2566 Posts

August 01 2011 04:21 GMT

#2213

On August 01 2011 11:53 Curu wrote:
Eiii you sent out some of the role PMs confirm?

Trying to deduce things from minor details in the role/alignment PMs-- time sent, the sender, etc-- is especially foolish!

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

August 01 2011 12:55 GMT

#2214

Curu even bread crumbed his role at the beginning of the game with this, which matches the flavor text of the role description. I'm willing to trust that he was the original role thief at his point.

On July 25 2011 15:02 Curu wrote:
judging from my own role, people who made up roles in five minutes are not all that uncommon

kitaman27

United States9245 Posts

August 01 2011 14:22 GMT

#2215

I'm off camping for a few days so I'll be on the road for the rest of the cycle. I'm not sure if they have Wi-Fi or not, but worse-case, I'll find a McDonalds or something (Or maybe silence myself as an excuse :p)

If the lynch comes up wrong, hold bum accountable to shoot Palmar. If anyone else is trigger happy and decides to shoot me because of the bogus ghost whisperer result, just ask yourself why I would ever take an alignment day one with only a couple votes on myself, relatively early in the cycle.

Curu

Canada2817 Posts

August 01 2011 15:35 GMT

#2216

lol I'd forgotten about that. I was also doing a bit of role fishing at the start because I thought Mafia/SK would get the most overpowered roles and I could steal that ^_^.

If you find me being scummy for other reasons then mount your case sandroba, but I was most definitely the original Role Thief.

sandroba

Canada4998 Posts

August 01 2011 16:27 GMT

#2217

That bread crumb kind of convinced me. When I think I got the game solved I start getting paranoid =P

Lanaia

Canada1142 Posts

August 01 2011 18:01 GMT

#2218

On August 02 2011 01:27 sandroba wrote:
That bread crumb kind of convinced me. When I think I got the game solved I start getting paranoid =P

Er, which way did it convince you? That he's town?

sandroba

Canada4998 Posts

August 01 2011 18:06 GMT

#2219

NOT telling =P.

DropBear

Australia4366 Posts

August 01 2011 18:49 GMT

#2220

La la la la la
Waiting for chaos to die

So had my first day back at uni today. Celebrated by not going. Only 1 hour lecture and its recorded on teh internet. I win :D

I haven't updated my spreadsheet since the start of the game, should probably write down everyone's roles. Has anyone not claimed yet? Or not activated their penalty?

Also decon, shotgun a place in Swedish House Mafia