Out of the 3 roleclaims I think most likely to be fake (Palmar, chaos, Varpulis) and apparently have dead/MIA role creators, Palmar's is the most easily confirmable.

Varpulis's is the most convenient with its "oh I might actually show as any alignment so if I show red I'm not really lolz."

However with chaos/Palmar we have one of them straight up lying. Unless Palmar is for some reason willing to trade 1 for 1, I'm inclined to go with him for now.

Curu

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July 31 2011 04:04 GMT

#2072

DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN

Curu

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July 31 2011 04:06 GMT

#2074

Kita's point is pretty damning tbh.

Curu

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July 31 2011 04:15 GMT

#2076

So here's how I see it:

sandroba is the most Pro Town player thus far. I'm not banking on him lying.

chaos's action against sandroba must have gone through for them to be in the circle. That means it was not a kill, unless sandroba is the SK and/or can somehow survive night hits.

Palmar and DropBear must be lying or this game has the weirdest mechanics I've ever seen.

The only thing that gets me is I'm almost certain Foolishness was RBed night 1 and DropBear claimed that one as well.

Curu

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July 31 2011 04:17 GMT

#2077

Last possibility is that Amber did Medic sandroba and chaos's was actually a hit. But then, if chaos was roleblocked, why is he in a circle with sandroba now?

Either way unless the mechanics are seriously screwed up I don't see how chaos could have been roleblocked.

Curu

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July 31 2011 04:20 GMT

#2079

On July 31 2011 13:19 Lanaia wrote:

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DropBear lying about what?

Roleblocking chaos. Some action must have gone through for chaos and sandroba to be Masoned now.

Curu

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July 31 2011 04:26 GMT

#2081

The only part that doesn't make sense to me is Foolishness's claimed roleblock. But reading over my role PM again, Foolishness may have thought he gets new powers just for waiting rather than actively using the powers and thus didn't use anything since there's the insanity caveat and the first two powers weren't all that helpful for Mafia.

DropBear, your full role PM please. There is a daykill ability still out there (supersoft's death) but no one claiming a power related to it, someone is BSing.

And for the cult thing, once again unless sandroba lied about his ability (I don't believe he did) then he was not the one. supersoft never did any action to sandroba either.

Curu

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July 31 2011 04:28 GMT

#2082

And no one can claim to making the powers for Palmar, DropBear, kitaman, chaos, or Varpulis?

Curu

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July 31 2011 04:31 GMT

#2085

So even if chaos was indeed roleblocked, he still has all his actions shown to Palmar and gets Masoned with sandroba?

wtf is going on

Curu

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July 31 2011 05:33 GMT

#2092

So if DB's power is actually that, then Palmar isn't lying about his power. Unless they're both Mafia.

I say we lynch chaos today.

Curu

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July 31 2011 06:20 GMT

#2095

No, but one Mafia member almost certainly had a daykill that was used on supersoft.

Someone is lying about their role, but it doesn't appear to be Palmar.

Curu

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July 31 2011 06:28 GMT

#2097

I would also like to hear chaos's reason for protecting me Night 1 if he did do so.

Curu

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July 31 2011 06:38 GMT

#2102

To silenceomeone.

Curu

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July 31 2011 06:42 GMT

#2103

To silence someone* is Kita's power.

Curu

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July 31 2011 15:08 GMT

#2113

On July 31 2011 16:55 Palmar wrote:

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Btw, this role-message looks so edited.

Do you gain a KP for roleblocking your cult? If you need to pay a KP to do it, where does that KP come from?

On July 31 2011 11:25 chaos13 wrote:
Sandroba's role does not have a day kill. I can confirm this beyond doubt. Yes, I made it sound like a cult. I even made him appear third party to DT checks, but I guess that was removed. However, it's basically just a mason circle that gets 1 kill/night at the cost of roleblocking every member, and only if it is full. Whoever that kill was, it was not Sandroba.

Sandroba is not anything harmful. The role PM was worded extremely badly, but chaos explains it. You have to treat roleblocking the Mason circle as a bad thing for it to make sense.

Bad: All members roleblocked
Good: In exchange for that bad, you get 1 KP

I'd still like chaos's explanation for why he chose me to be a Medic prot Night 1.

Curu

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July 31 2011 15:16 GMT

#2116

Palmar does look like he's trying to be intentionally obtuse to leave behind as much havoc as he can before he dies.

I still think chaos's claim is BS though, I mean why in the world would anyone want to Medic prot me Night 1? I led the BC mislynch.

Curu

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July 31 2011 15:20 GMT

#2119

And unless DropBear is in league with Palmar, Palmar's ability is more or less confirmed.

That leaves chaos as the liar about his ability.

Curu

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July 31 2011 15:42 GMT

#2129

lol you guys really don't read the thread. There was like 3 pages about Kurumi's ability.

Drazerk I don't understand how you could've thought an unactionable odd night Medic is a bad role lol.

Curu

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July 31 2011 15:59 GMT

#2132

I don't think we have any DTs left anyways.

Everyone's powers have been claimed in the thread, there's at least 1 liar.

Curu

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July 31 2011 16:07 GMT

#2134

Only the one on the scum team who shot supersoft, it appears.

Varpulis and chaos (and me I suppose) are the only ones who haven't had their power confirmed in some way by the maker or by someone's actions. Their roles both look like BS, but Varpulis's is so convoluted he can't be making that stuff up, and I see no reason for him to fake it unless he really wanted kitaman dead or something.

chaos looked scummy on the day of the Foolishness lynch (I was debating pushing a case for him or pushing a case for Foolishness, decided on Foolishness) and his role claim is just weak. He also claims to have protected me night 1 when there was absolutely nothing to paint me as a good Medic prot.