Nah nav using your nuke here is good.

TAA pbp will just be a huge cluttered waste. Writing out a huge pbp analysis is usually ignored and useless. Find some major points and analyze them to discuss why GM is mafia or innocent. Talk about scummy actions, pushing mafia objective, talk about what his motivations this game have been.

Analyzing someone post by post will just be nit picking and finding contradictions (townies contradict themselves all the time this is not auto scum tell) so you need to analyze his overall play and what he has done this game.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 11 2011 20:26 GMT

#2785

I actually agree with all your points TAA. GM has done a shit load of scummy/suspicious things this game.

However how do you explain him saving mataza early on? And what do you think about his chinese leader claim? So

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 11 2011 20:28 GMT

#2786

Coag. TAA has claimed to have 3 lives. He has been nuked once you want to nuke him again to see if he was telling the truth? We are already nuking kita so if he dies we have to figure out who to lynch next.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 11 2011 20:48 GMT

#2790

Coag or GM nuke TAA

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 11 2011 20:50 GMT

#2792

TAA look I think you are scum. I doubt scum has 3 lives so you should be nuked to confirm whether you are a liar or not.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 11 2011 20:51 GMT

#2794

TAA has claimed 3 lives he has been shot once. How likely do you think it is for scum to have 3 lives? I doubt he is nuke immune with how he reacted to me proposing he should be nuked.

And I have stated my analysis of why I think he is scum twice.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 11 2011 20:51 GMT

#2795

According to drazark/caller no there will be no radiation for any of the nukes shot today.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 11 2011 20:55 GMT

#2802

haha coag I will take that as a compliment I guess.

I have 2 nukes left but I already shot kurumi today so I don't believe I am allowed to shoot again. Otherwise believe me I would.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 11 2011 20:56 GMT

#2803

TAA you were all for nuking yourself earlier to try and confirm yourself as town. Now I want to do the same thing and you seem extremely hesitant. Isn't it better for you to be nuked than lynched?

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 11 2011 21:07 GMT

#2807

Ok so time line.

1) TAA claims british
2) TAA then also claims vet giving him 3 lives. TAA then "tries" to nuke himself to prove that he is telling the truth since he doesn't need 3 lives but he put the command in wrong so the nuke never fired.
3) TAA then is nuked by heist and survived.
4) I now want to fire 1 more nuke at TAA just to try and see whether he was lying or not about having 3 lives.

TAA was gunho about being nuked earlier so he could prove that he was telling the truth and get town cred. But now that I have proposed the same plan TAA had earlier he is completely against it.

Conclusion - TAA is a scum veteran with 2 lives. He was fine with losing 1 life earlier to buy town cred but now that he has been nuked once he knows he will die if shot again.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 11 2011 21:11 GMT

#2808

And look assuming kita dies. Me/Draz/Curu/Nav are all locked in on voting to lynch TAA. So either someone nukes TAA to see if he is telling the truth or we lynch him. It is better for us to nuke him because if he survives then we can try and determine whether he has been town all along. I am trying to help us avoid a possible mislynch here.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 11 2011 21:13 GMT

#2810

Can anyone give me reasons why this is a bad idea? Coag/GM?

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 11 2011 21:18 GMT

#2812

GM has honestly been worse than useless this game. Probably the most anti town game he has ever played.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 11 2011 21:24 GMT

#2816

Right I do think he is scum. I have posted my analysis of why he is scum multiple times.

And yes he could be nuke immune but if he was immune do you think he would be arguing so strongly against having a townie nuke him?

And seriously how likely is it for a scum to just have 3 lives? He claimed 3 lives before because he was british + vet. So would him having 3 lives prove he is innocent? No. But it would make him look better. I am trying to give us the maximum amount of information possible to make the correct decision on who we should lynch. I mean come on now people.

And yes clearly if kita survives this next nuke we lynch him.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 11 2011 21:36 GMT

#2822

Curu the retaliation nuke is actually a great point I hadn't considered. But there were what only 3/4 people who hadn't fired nukes yet do you think they would spend an anti nuke just in the hopes one of the last couple people fired at kita again?

Basically I had it in my head that Kita/TAA are both scum. They know that if kita dies to the nuke then TAA will be lynched next and they lose 2 players today. And like GM said kita may have a powerful role they need during the night. They could have used the anti nukes to save wiggles or jeejee or kurumi but didn't. There must be some reason they saved Kita.

And really curu you are suspicious of me? Really so I suppose today while 0 mafia were dead I just got it in my head to bus the entire mafia team is that right? And not to mention how on day 1 I saved YM (town) and killed Palmar (conspirator). I really shouldn't have to argue my innocence at this point.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 11 2011 21:41 GMT

#2824

On July 10 2011 10:30 Mig wrote:
Oh great we can nuke without radiation. I am going to nuke either kurumi/kita/wiggles. Haven't quite decided yet.

I guess even tho nobody at all besides me was accusing kita or kurumi. I just decided it would be a good idea to bus the entire team. I mean I fucking shot kurumi, redirected the nuke into kita and called out wiggles as being my third most suspicious person. And I am by far the most active person in analyzing and discussing ideas.

And you really still think I am scum. Amazing.

Mig

United States4714 Posts

July 11 2011 21:49 GMT

#2826

You ask why I am trying to nuke instead of lynch. I am trying to kill the mafia as fast as possible because A) I expect almost guaranteed to die tonight B) the faster we kill the mafia the better because they can still kill at night.

You can't just assume the entire mafia team is nuke immune. Just like we had a campaign giving british extra lives. Their campaign could have done the same for some of them or some of them could have been veterans. I am not just going to assume half the scum team has 5 lives or is nuke immune.