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GMarshal
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GMarshal
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On July 03 2011 17:54 syllogism wrote: If we can't fully trust GM, it seems ideal play is to have youngminii plant his bombs on GM and some lurker, who doesn't get named, and have him not detonate the bombs until much later. The remaining scum will have to waste a shot on youngminii eventually. Of course, if youngminii or GM is somehow lying, this will prolong the game unnecessarily. Someone should do behavioural analysis of the people remaining and determine who is most likely to be a jerk who doesn't mind wasting everyone's time in an almost unwinnable game I'm cool with that ^_^ I'd also like to point out that playing from a hard position is not "being a jerk" its playing to win, we don't need to bash the opposition just because they are making our life difficult. I really think Wiggles and co. were distancing themselves from hiro, which is why I think he is scum, and I really wish someone would post the lurker list already so they can be shot/bombed. | ||
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GMarshal
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On July 03 2011 18:17 Palmar wrote: GM, trying to kill Hiro is a scumtell in this game. Syllo, chill out a bit. But we really, really need that lurker list up. It's only 20-ish hours until the next day hits. By the way, from tomorrow onwards, I will no longer be enjoying my summer vacation, so expect some drop in activity, but mostly a drop in availability as I'll only be around a few hours every day. AHA, trying to justify LURKING! I see right through your scumscuses! ##Nuke: Palmar Agreed though, we need the lurker list! | ||
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On July 04 2011 00:59 GGQ wrote: And this is why I still think it could be GMarshal, he's very principled, and I don't think he'd ever willingly surrender when he's supposed to play to win. I'm more than happy to take a bomb to prove my innocence ^_^ If I were scum though I would have never posted anything like that, I would rather be emphasizing how we have the game in the bag and how scum stands no chance now. I see your challenge Palmar, I'll see what I can do, I may not have time though, no promises. You do bring up an interesting point though GGQ, whoever is still playing probably either thinks they stand a chance (so a good player with town cred) or is inactive/lurking enough to either not notice how badly they are off/haven't noticed yet. Either way I subscribe to purging the inactives and then worrying about everyone else | ||
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GMarshal
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On July 04 2011 01:07 syllogism wrote: Yes, it's also a bit weird how he sort of threw a tantrum when people piled on him after d1 and seemed to lose interest in the game for a while As I said RL issues came up. I belive my "tantrum" was justified by the fact that I was 1.) Playing obviously town (or at least the worst scum I've ever played) 2.) really, really easy to confirm. Either way, what have you done for this town syllo? I notice you don't have much the first few days... | ||
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GMarshal
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On July 04 2011 01:41 syllogism wrote: Claiming veteran, especially immediately after day post, was such a terrible move And allowing the town to lynch me was a better play? Perhaps I should have hard defended myself and mucked up the thread for 15 pages of me yelling at people? I was actually hoping the mafia would RB me and shoot me right off the bat, so I could stop checking the thread (that was at the time, I'm happy to be living now, although a nice bomb to the chest right about now would make me happy). Basically I didn't have the time or the patience to deal with the situation at hand. I'm not saying it was the *best* play, but given how much fun the town was having calling for my head on a pike (there were like what, 6 analysis?), I didn't see it as that bad. Either way, discussing me is wasting time, we need to look at lurkers and likely scum. I sustain my motion of lynching Hiro, its not a bad idea from wiggles perspective to just play solo at that point and try to survive off of the cred of having lynched sucm. Plus hiro has all of 5 posts or something, at least shoot the man and ease my mind. | ||
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On July 04 2011 01:46 syllogism wrote: I wonder why they didn't role block you, seems like a better idea than randomly role blocking youngminii. It was quite likely one of the vigs would shoot at you to confirm. I have no idea why. Ask DB. Also it is possible I was RBed, as you are only informed of a roleblock if its successful (meaning you have an action that can be roleblocked), when was YM rbed again? I kind of missed that part of his claim. | ||
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On July 04 2011 06:14 Jackal58 wrote: There are 15 people remaining. All have posted in the thread at least once since the Wiggles lynch so I think it's safe to say we are not looking for somebody that doesn't kow they are last man standing. The remaining are: sinani206 GMarshal gtrsrs Cthsazsa aprudds youngminii Hyaach hiro protagonist Mig GGQ Jackal58 Eiii Palmar ~OpZ~ syllogism Of those 15 I only see 4 of us that wold never surrender regardless of the odds. I would suggest to town that you kill us all with extreme prejudice in any manner you have left available to you. Bombs, ropes, guns or whatever you like. In any order you like. Get this game over with. Actually this isn't a terrible plan, I can run with it. I'd really appreciate it if you'd check me with a bomb, as I'm easily verifiable and I don't have to die as part of the process. YM needs to get his suiciding over with so we can clear him, and his second bomb should be on hiro or syllogism. I can go with this plan. Your objection to it palmar is... questionable. Do you see any actual flaws with this plan? | ||
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GMarshal
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On July 04 2011 07:41 Palmar wrote: Yes, of course I do. You're scummy as fuck and can be confirmed with a bomb. I've probably played more pro-town than anyone else in this game. While the town together has worked to hit the results we have now, I'd like to think that some part of the success was mine. I am actually very proud of how I've played this game. That being said, I'm not letting you guys throw it out the window with some ridiculous shoot people on a list plan. And what do you plan to do exactly if none of the players in this list is the mafia? That's great, 4 wasted KP's that could've gone to people that actually might be scum. No, we kill the people who we think are scum, not some stupid list that might as well make no sense. I don't buy this. I don't think suggesting it is scummy, just stupid. You know whats funny? the "I've been more pro town than anyone" argument is what I tried to use to shoot your plan down in PTP. Didn't work for me, I don't know why it should work for you. I mean this plan is playing safe, right?  | ||
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On July 04 2011 08:00 Palmar wrote: This is a great point. If we silently lynch four people, who are all okay with being lynched. What information do we gain if it happens to be wrong? Are you really willing to gamble the game on this Jackal58, are you willing to lose a won game because you have terrible meta reads and useless town play? I don't buy it. If the mafia isn't one of you three guys, he is probably laughing his ass of right now. If we were all ok with being lynched, I would probably object, but it seems to me that you have serious issues with dying. Which is an interesting reaction. Town shouldn't be this upset about a little noose around the neck. Either way, for now I'm willing to take out Hiro/gtrs/Eiii first and worry about it later, but if we aren't making progress with the lurker lynches, I'd be more than willing to look at you again. ^_^ Off to take a nap now, talk to you all later. | ||
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On July 04 2011 08:34 Palmar wrote: yep OpZ, I was the one who pushed the Wiggles lynch. People can be right even if they're scum  And yes, I have made mistakes. You see, when you put yourself in a position like I willingly took upon myself, you will fuck up. There is no one who plays the game perfectly Just like everyone who is trying to get me lynched are about to screw up pretty badly. I want the town to take a long good hard look at the people who are pushing this, as anyone with half a brain can tell I'm town. Hmm I've never read arguments like *that* before. On June 18 2011 02:39 GMarshal wrote: No doubt you do. Please, ignore all my contributions and just lynch me! Seriously, make a case or don't, but don't lynch "just because" On June 17 2011 08:32 GMarshal wrote: RedFF revealed my role, I don't have any KP left, and fuck it, you know I'm almost guaranteed to be town. Lynch steff instead, Cstha has a pretty decent analysis of him written up. All I'm asking for is a little trust, for getting DB lynched at the very least. I think I earned it. On June 18 2011 04:24 GMarshal wrote: Sure Rean is town. Town =/= right. If he is town then he is getting shot tonight, because the mafia can't afford confirmed townies. Again, I don't see the issue with letting me live another night, and if we haven't won, lynching me tomorrow. Seriously, I've played super town this entire game. All I need is to make it to tomorrow, and we win, come on rean and palmar, don't make me fucking lose ;_; Right, thats where I saw "I'm town, lynching me is idiotic" before, in a similar situation. How amusing. Seems you learned something from reading PTP, namely that repetition can be as useful as a good argument. Tell me palmar, why are you so devoted to staying alive? I already said that I'm 100% fine with being bombed or shot, yet you seem *outraged* at the suggestion that we might lynch you. Again, we can exterminate lurkers, but if/when the game hits lylo, we'll know who the mafia is. Hopefully by then someone will have been kind enough to riddle me with amunition to prove my alignment. (Come on YM, don't fail me here, you know that if palmar is scum he's already setting me up as his convincing endgame mislynch, being confirmed would resolve any such doubts) | ||
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On July 04 2011 08:57 syllogism wrote: Well I reread the thread and nothing really stood up. Meta points to the last one being some stubborn veteran, but none of them really make sense as the last scum. I think I'll have to vote GGQ or Eiii today. I don't think, however, we'll be hitting mafia today. YM should be allowed to post his actions tomorrow no matter what, so if he gets sniped early, the flip should be delayed until his actions are in. Fully agree. I at least hope he placed a bomb on me >.> <.< How amusing would it be if we all got placed in the lurker list? | ||
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