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On July 01 2011 04:28 Caller wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 04:27 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On July 01 2011 04:24 Caller wrote:On July 01 2011 04:21 Jackal58 wrote:On July 01 2011 04:01 Caller wrote:
Yes I lied. I openly admit it. But it doesn't matter. I can lie as much as I want, but once you die tomorrow I am 100% proven clean town. Even if I lied to do so. No reason to lynch proven town at all.
Also, Fishball MUST be lying. If BC dies by himself (meaning only person that dies tomorrow is BC), first, I'm proven innocent as seen above. ???? How? did you not read BC telling the truth: I had 1 KP and it was used up. Therefore I cannot kill BC, therefore, I am not mafia. Either the mafia will kill him, or he will not die. If I were mafia, I would have infinite KP, as I had already said. BC lying: He is mafia, mafia cannot shoot other mafia, I shoot him with my 2nd (and last bullet), he dies, therefore I am not mafia. As a general note, caller is lying in this statement. Mafia can shoot their own members, so me dying would reveal nothing on callers alignment. If two shots happen, he is likely sk, if 1 shot happens and its not on me, he is a 1 shot vig as I claimed. and how would you know that mafia can shoot their own members?
more importantly, did you just slip?
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EBWOP: Let's say mafia can shoot their own members. First of all, they can't. Second of all, if they do, you admit that you are mafia. Then, sure, I may no longer be 100% confirmed, but what kind of mafia will bus not one but TWO of their members? Especially when they were in the middle of an otherwise impossible to break scheme that would allow them to run town around in circles?
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whatever. I'm shooting BC tonight. Fishball dies tomorrow morning. Anything less, and I either am dead or will pull out of the game faster than a girl telling me "have my babies."
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On July 01 2011 04:35 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 04:31 Caller wrote:
EBWOP: Let's say mafia can shoot their own members. First of all, they can't. Second of all, if they do, you admit that you are mafia. Then, sure, I may no longer be 100% confirmed, but what kind of mafia will bus not one but TWO of their members? Especially when they were in the middle of an otherwise impossible to break scheme that would allow them to run town around in circles? Really? You want to go there? Ace, can you come confirm in thread as you did to me in a pm all of 5 minutes ago that Mafia can indeed shoot their own? Or may I post the pm? As for you saying I am red, I am proving you a liar at the moment. You say what Mafia would bus two of their own in this scheme when either of the players in question could be third party, town, mafia. We could have all 3 on this board. You don't account for many situations and skew the facts to confirm yourself. Without any flip of my role you are not proven at all. Without your flip you are not proven. You have claimed killing ggq, gmarshal, claimed 3 different roles, and are now claiming i am lying about my blue claim. However my ability caught your one truthful claim in amongst all your lies. Just accept that and move on. Nothing confirms either of us but death and a flip. Or perhaps a cop could check you next.
i don't need to account for many situations and the facts are straightforward enough. Who cares if I'm not proven. I'M FUCKING CALLER. All that matters is that you die tonight (as you shall) and Fishball dies tomorrow. What happens afterwards, I no longer give a damn. Town can lynch me for lying, sure. But if they do stupid shit like that, after I literally saved town from being led around in circles like a fucking top, and hand them two mafia, well, ok.
I'm done arguing about this. Once again, BC tonight, Fishball tomorrow, then you guys can go ahead and string me up on effigy. I've already shown I'm not 3rd Party, I've already shown why BC's "claim" basically makes most of the "situations" impossible, leaving me almost certainly not scum, and I'm handing you two very dangerous mafia. And I'm shooting first. If you still don't believe me and listen to the "BUT WHAT ABOUT THIS OR THIS OR THIS OR THIS OR ONE OF ANOTHER THREE HUNDRED NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE SITUATIONS" wifoming spamming mafia instead, well, I hope you lose. Because I'm in this to kick ass and chew bubblegum. And I'm all out of gum.
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On July 01 2011 04:49 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 04:24 Caller wrote:On July 01 2011 04:21 Jackal58 wrote:On July 01 2011 04:01 Caller wrote:
Yes I lied. I openly admit it. But it doesn't matter. I can lie as much as I want, but once you die tomorrow I am 100% proven clean town. Even if I lied to do so. No reason to lynch proven town at all.
Also, Fishball MUST be lying. If BC dies by himself (meaning only person that dies tomorrow is BC), first, I'm proven innocent as seen above. ???? How? did you not read BC telling the truth: I had 1 KP and it was used up. Therefore I cannot kill BC, therefore, I am not mafia. Either the mafia will kill him, or he will not die. If I were mafia, I would have infinite KP, as I had already said. BC lying: He is mafia, mafia cannot shoot other mafia, I shoot him with my 2nd (and last bullet), he dies, therefore I am not mafia. 1st I agree with your assertion that mafia cannot kill themselves. At least I have never been in a setup that allowed for it. But this is Ace's game so who the fuck knows. 2nd if BC is the only player hit tonight I still don't see how that would in any way indicate or confirm you are town. If scum and you both hit BC then BC is dead and you have your "mystery" bullet back. If only scum hit BC then that raises the probability of him telling the truth. Which means you are for some reason lying now which does town no good. If BC doesn't die the probability of you FB and BC all being scum or alternately batshit fucking insane goes through the roof.
like i said i no longer care about whether or not im confirmed. But I've already shown logically and soundly that BC and Fishball are scum. You don't have to believe me whether or not I'm innocent or not. But are you seriously defending that BC and Fishball are not mafia? I wish I had more bullets, then.
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On July 01 2011 04:54 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 04:52 Caller wrote:On July 01 2011 04:49 Jackal58 wrote:On July 01 2011 04:24 Caller wrote:On July 01 2011 04:21 Jackal58 wrote:On July 01 2011 04:01 Caller wrote:
Yes I lied. I openly admit it. But it doesn't matter. I can lie as much as I want, but once you die tomorrow I am 100% proven clean town. Even if I lied to do so. No reason to lynch proven town at all.
Also, Fishball MUST be lying. If BC dies by himself (meaning only person that dies tomorrow is BC), first, I'm proven innocent as seen above. ???? How? did you not read BC telling the truth: I had 1 KP and it was used up. Therefore I cannot kill BC, therefore, I am not mafia. Either the mafia will kill him, or he will not die. If I were mafia, I would have infinite KP, as I had already said. BC lying: He is mafia, mafia cannot shoot other mafia, I shoot him with my 2nd (and last bullet), he dies, therefore I am not mafia. 1st I agree with your assertion that mafia cannot kill themselves. At least I have never been in a setup that allowed for it. But this is Ace's game so who the fuck knows. 2nd if BC is the only player hit tonight I still don't see how that would in any way indicate or confirm you are town. If scum and you both hit BC then BC is dead and you have your "mystery" bullet back. If only scum hit BC then that raises the probability of him telling the truth. Which means you are for some reason lying now which does town no good. If BC doesn't die the probability of you FB and BC all being scum or alternately batshit fucking insane goes through the roof. like i said i no longer care about whether or not im confirmed. But I've already shown logically and soundly that BC and Fishball are scum. You don't have to believe me whether or not I'm innocent or not. But are you seriously defending that BC and Fishball are not mafia? I wish I had more bullets, then. Man are you going to feel bad when I flip town.
too bad you guys killed off the coroner
i'm han solo. I shoot first.
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as long as BC and Fishball die I don't care. o/
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On July 01 2011 05:14 Palmar wrote:
by the way, the best person to check after death in this scenario is caller.
actually, it'd be BC, because if he is Godfather, Fishball may potentially be off the hook.
Nah who am I kidding they probably set it up that way to try and cut their losses.
Feel free to confirm my vigilante role. Just don't out yourselves, unless you find something different, you coroners/morticians/whatever you are.
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On July 01 2011 05:15 BloodyC0bbler wrote:Show nested quote +On July 01 2011 05:02 Kurumi wrote:
So let's assume Caller is 3rd Party:
BC is lying about his role and Fishball is his bro.
Let's assume Caller is Mafia
Jerkcircle,BC,Caller and Fishball are remaining mafia. You missed the situation where I could just be an asshole townie. Just saying
then we lose game anyways gg
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Viscera is a red herring. BC and then Fishball, you fucks.
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No we lynch fishball because there is no friggin role reveal so we don't know if rol was town or not
Get his results from tonight then lynch him. I'm almost positive he and bc were in this together.
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Ok rol was def mafia. Bc is also mafia. Thinking about it more fishball MIGHT be ok bit should lynch to be sure. I think there is chance of roleblocker but I highly doubt it as nobody reported being rbd.
If I had to guess last two mafia it's among chez lsb and Ilovejonn I feel
Leaving this here in case I die
Gl town hope you don't do anything stupid
Although judging from ur responses not much luck in that
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On July 02 2011 09:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, I'm just curious. Why are players like BC and Amber exempt from contributing anything to the discussion? Do you guys just already know their stances and don't need to hear from them or anything? I mean, you guys are SURE that BC is scum, is THAT why you don't care what he has to say on the matter?
When I called out BC I got a response. *shudder* Are you guys just afraid of him or something? Amber is just lolwut'ing me, but he's contributed less than anyone here (excluding me!)...
Just sayin. As you were.
derp
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goddamit bc u real troll and trick me
well i guess lsb is mafia then, i had him pinned as a blue/mafia
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alright then screw it mass roleclaims. go.
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by the way i just noticed i had a pm, apparently I was roleblocked yesterday. So I still have my shot ^^
So we now know there are at least three roles by various people:
a) somebody that can reveal all dead people in a day
b) a roleblocker (I'm not sure if its mafia aligned, though)
c) someone else with a night hit. But RoL is confirmed mafia now. Hmm?
Sandroba, can you give me a list of your night actions please? Medics should claim whatever they feel like, assuming you guys are still out there.
tldr i can still shoot someone ^^
afaik roleblockers can't act on the same person consecutively from past experience
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I call Bullshit on LSB
Simple way to test this: if you claim to have shot RoL as you say you did, then medic should claim.
Why don't you list your "powers" to the rest of us,; I find it highly unlikely that a Jack would have both a watcher's ability as well as a highly powerful mimic.
Your proof in doing so involves highly intentionally vague statements. You also claim that RoL investigated a dead body. Wouldn't your "mimic" also give you the results of that dead body?
I want to see just how far you mafia will go to lie here.
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This is pretty fucking convenient, isn't it. LSB targets the exact same fucking people that Fishball does, in the exact same fucking order. He picks targets that Fishball has already targeted to give him "proof" that he is town and not the lying scum that he is, so my allegations seem more realistic. Meanwhile, he or one of his mafia buds roleblocks me, and BC dies somehow (maybe they fucking hit BC last night, especially considering how I wanted to lynch Fishball). Then, once they realize I still have a bullet, they see me as a threat, so then LSB comes out and says that I was the one that shot him to get me killed before I can shoot him again without the fear of the roleblocker. Really?
If medic "protected" RoL please claim, that means apparently EVERYBODY visited RoL on night 1.
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On July 03 2011 01:30 Kurumi wrote:
You want to out the medic,don't You? So Your team can snipe him off? Shoot here. I want to test my Veteran powers. And yes I lied. I wanted scum to think that I am useless. Heard me? Shoot me,but bring at least 2KP.
lol? i argued against outing the medic when RoL false claimed. LSB is asking to be killed here if medic claims. Easy.
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