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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
July 10 2011 00:04 GMT
#1237
Lol - it was such a bad idea I decided I could not defend it. So instead I praised you in the thread and shot you the first chance we had. We knew the medic was dead.
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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
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July 10 2011 00:23 GMT
#1241
On July 10 2011 09:06 Fishball wrote:
If LSB could have protected me there, I would have been extremely impressed.

He used that on BC night 0.
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citi.zen
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Last Edited: 2011-07-10 02:54:57
July 10 2011 01:58 GMT
#1250
To shift topics a bit. From our vantage point, me and Sandroba could not figure out why BC would lie, since we knew he was town. So I was pretty sure at one point that the whole thing was a misunderstanding of this exchange:

"I used my one bullet to shoot GMarshal." The response came back "true".


The tested statement really has two parts: one was true; one not so much, but could be interpreted as such, ex - one bullet that night. At any rate if Ace only provided a single true/false statement he may well have referred to the shooting of GM.

I think BC could and should have made the case for his innocence, especially with FB confirming him as town.

As I said in my initial post: don't freeze based on what you know happened (in this case, that you lied about the role). Start with the premise that you are clean, then look for ways to explain the world to fit that premise.

Edit: as a red, I was terrified at the prospect BC was telling the truth. You could simply ask for everyone to write "I am not red" in a post and essentially you'd have another DT. Talk about taunting the mafia! BC made an interesting claim and clearly his reads of Caller and FB as town were correct. He just got... overly fancy. Playing "straight" and backing up FB and Caller in the thread would have created a very hard to stop force.
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citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
July 10 2011 20:49 GMT
#1269
Like I said, good reads but the gamble didn't seem necessary.

You bring up another interesting point that was lost on most players: there was no way Caller would be red at that point in the game. At most he could be 3rd party, but not red. We knew it and were thrilled to get him lynched in short order, before anybody asked questions (anybody other than Chez, that is).
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citi.zen
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Last Edited: 2011-07-10 21:28:02
July 10 2011 21:25 GMT
#1273
On July 11 2011 06:09 Amber[LighT] wrote:
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On July 11 2011 06:07 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On July 11 2011 05:49 citi.zen wrote:
Like I said, good reads but the gamble didn't seem necessary.

You bring up another interesting point that was lost on most players: there was no way Caller would be red at that point in the game. At most he could be 3rd party, but not red. We knew it and were thrilled to get him lynched in short order, before anybody asked questions (anybody other than Chez, that is).



The game maybe wasn't necessary, but It was a hope to set myself up as a target for a mafia hit before caller. Also, as horrible as it sounds, almost everyone was trolling at the point I fake claimed and honestly the only way to really get discussion going I figured was to do something insanely outlandish.


And it worked, oddly enough.

Though I don't think anyone actually believed Caller to be scum. I couldn't see either of you actually being scum. It just looked like troll vs troll and a lucky guess.

No, it didn't work. I also didn't see trolling. FB wasn't doing it, rol was dead, Chez was on point. Us two mafia were discrete, if anything. The entire game took under 50 pages - that's remarkable for 18 people. Look at waw or other games for a comparison. This is why I thought "fundamentals" were all that was needed at that point in my view.

And, if you go back, plenty of people did think Caller was red at the time. That vote was almost unanimous - see Chez's posts after the lynch.
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